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Jafeluv (talk) 13:44, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

categories[edit]

Please, consider removing categories which get redundant if you add a new one. For instance, "Breads" has to be removed while adding "Breads of Russia". - A.Savin 18:03, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

...And again: [1] For your interest, "sweet food" is a "food", and "food" is (also) a "product"... So, Category:Sweet food of Russia suffices completely... You'll never understand, heh? - A.Savin 23:34, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Well, someone has put some foreign milk packs into the Food of Russia category. Apparently, they mean not only the food produced in Russia, but also commonly consumed in Russia. Hence it is not always true that everything in a subcategory also matches the parent category. Another example: in the category Cabbage Rolls there are a few images of Golubzy and a few others of german rolls. The category belongs to Cuisines of Russia, Germany etc. So in some cases it may useful for clarity to add some picture also to the parent category.

Another reason to keep certain pictures in several categories is that the most of the categories don't have their 'front page' demonstrating the nicest images. Only most basic and popular categories have such pages. Therefore I think it is sometimes useful to include one (the nicest) picture of each subcategory into the parent category such that a user looking at the parent category immediately recognizes what she should expect in the subcategories. Off-shell (talk) 23:47, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

That's what galleries are for. Categories are just unsorted folders of media by the same topic, that's all. Consider to read Commons:Categories, especially about over-categorization. - A.Savin 23:56, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Autopatrol given[edit]

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Hello. I just wanted to let you know that I have granted autopatrol rights to your account; the reason for this is that I believe you are sufficiently trustworthy and experienced to have your contributions automatically sighted. This will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to help users watching Recent changes or Recent uploads to find unproductive edits amidst the productive ones. Thank you. INeverCry 20:48, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Off-shell (talk) 20:59, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Grilled food[edit]

[2]: how can this be? Roasting is done in an oven; grilling on, well, a grill! Am I missing something? - Jmabel ! talk 15:58, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

According to w:Roasting, "Roasting is a cooking method that uses dry heat, whether an open flame, oven, or other heat source." Apparently based on this, Category:Grills is included in Category:Ovens, and Category:Grilled chicken is included in Category:Roasted chicken. Following this logic, I suppose that grilled food is a kind of roasted food. On the other hand, Category:Roasted pig is included into Category:Grilled pork, so that these terms seem to be interchangeable in certain context. If you have a clear idea, how to separate all these categories, it would be good to do it in a coherent way. Off-shell (talk) 18:06, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

  • Certainly the pig thing you mention is simply wrong: there is no grill at all involved in roasting a pig on a spit. Yes, I guess one can roast over (for example) an open fire with no oven. I wouldn't normally think of grilling as a subset of roasting, but I'm not interested in fighting over it. The other way around is just wrong. - Jmabel ! talk 15:47, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Packaging?[edit]

Why this edit? What does meatpacking have to do with packaging? - Jmabel ! talk 01:55, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

  • Uh, that was done by mistake. I reverted it to the previous version.Off-shell (talk) 19:09, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
    • Thanks. When I see things like this I try to go to the person who made the edit in case I'm the one who's confused. - Jmabel ! talk 21:01, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

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Вікі любить Землю, 1–31 травня / Wiki Loves Earth, May 1–31, 2014[edit]

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Вітаємо!

З 1 по 31 травня 2014 буде проходити конкурс «Вікі любить Землю», метою якого є фотографування пам'яток природи. Цього року конкурс став міжнародним. Зі списками пам'яток природи України можна ознайомитися тут. Приєднуйтеся!

Більше інформації про конкурс читати тут. – Оргкомітет «Вікі любить Землю» (in english) 20:54, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for your cuisine-related contributions. Jaqeli 15:03, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for this award :) --Off-shell (talk) 20:29, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Category:Show_trials[edit]

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Foodies[edit]

"Patlıcanlı kebap" from the cuisine of southern Turkey in a "kebapçı" at Ankara. Notice the flatbread and other accompaniments that come as a courtesy of the house.

Hi there. You got good edits on foodstuff. Please read my recent question at User talk:INeverCry and tell me your opinion. Others who follow these pages may also tell me their opinion. Thank you. --E4024 (talk) 08:14, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi. So far I didn't see strict rules on the creation of categories. It seems to me the difference between Category:Octopus (food) and Category:Octopus-based food is that the former includes pictures where an octopus is served alone, while the latter shows combined dishes where it is part of a salad or served with a side dish etc. When some objects get sorted by country, one often creates a subcategory called "something by country", e.g. Category:Seafood dishes by country. If you create something like Category:Octopus dishes by country, it can also be included in Category:Seafood dishes by country, similar to Category:Fish dishes by country, Category:Crab dishes by country etc. --Off-shell (talk) 20:14, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
✓  Done . --E4024 (talk) 12:53, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Kurnik & blini[edit]

Hello. Was this edition of mine correct? SpiderMum (talk) 15:32, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi, SpiderMum. It's OK. The fillings may vary in general. This one included layers of thin blini (like crêpes or naleśniki), at least one blin is clearly visible. --Off-shell (talk) 09:43, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
Thx. SpiderMum (talk) 14:09, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Image cat[edit]

What part of "PLEASE DON'T CATEGORIZE THIS IMAGE AS SOME WILL BE DELETED - I'D RATHER YOU DIDN'T WASTE YOUR TIME CATEGORIZING SOMETHING THAT COULD END UP DELETED, THANKS" do you not understand ?..... I've yet to sort through the images hence the category ..... So please don't remove it. –Davey2010Talk 23:14, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

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More foodies[edit]

Patlıcan kebab, a preparation that makes people who hate eggplants begin to love the thing.

Hi there. Could you have a look at the cat Heads and around and help a little to organize things better in the offal/awful area? While we have a specific cat for pork, mutton dishes go together with dog heads and things like that. Of course if other people eat dog meat while I don't, I have no right to say them anything; but I would prefer my sheep head(s) to be categorized a little better... Thanks. --E4024 (talk) 13:08, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Looks like it was done by SpiderMum. --Off-shell (talk) 19:46, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. Do you know the English name of the sort of "knife" in the picture File:Kapustnjak 010.jpg? --E4024 (talk) 08:26, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
Perhaps, Mezzaluna? --Off-shell (talk) 08:29, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Hi. Do you know a name/cat for the metal plate with a foot (see pic)? It's early here, I don't know what time it is where you are, take it as a virtual lunch present... Thanks for all your contributions. --E4024 (talk) 08:10, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the present. :) Unfortunately, I don't know this type of plate. --Off-shell (talk) 23:23, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Food preparation in <country> categories[edit]

The use of "in" in these category names means that the images need to have been taken in the named country. We don't take a picture of preparing Chinese food in Australia and call it food preparation in China. If anything, the images in these categories could be individually in the food prep by country categories, but the categories as a whole cannot.

Category:Borscht cooking, Category:Pierogi making: this means cooking of borscht anywhere that it is cooked, so that category can't go into a country-specific category. Individual files can, but not the entire category. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:24, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

I already thought of such things before. The point is that the whole concept of categories has its limitations. If applied consistently it demands a very fine granularity where at the end almost every image needs its own separate subcategory. However, categories are needed to help finding a good image among similar ones. E.g. Pirogi making is absolutely identical in Russia and Ukraine. Having images sorted by country would mean that someone looking for this process has to browse through several subcategories. Many people have no time for that and choose the first image they find, although there are better candidates. So far the idea was to keep granularity more or less dependent on the real number of images, even at the cost of a certain inconsistency. --Off-shell (talk) 07:07, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
It could go in "Food of" categories. The "of" categories don't have the requirement that the image be taken in the named country. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:15, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
"Food of ..." categories were so far used for basic (mostly industrial) food products, in contrast to "Cuisine of ..." One would then need a category like "Preparation of dishes of Russian cuisine" or something similar.
A side remark: if you remove "Food preparation in ...", please do not add "Cuisine of ..." instead, where it produces overcategorisation. E.g. Category:Borscht cooking is in Category:Borscht which is in categories "Soups of ..." which are in turn in "Cuisine of ...". --Off-shell (talk) 07:23, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Patriotic Soup[edit]

Thanks for the improvement of the image. Say, can I ask, have you made the soup yourself after seeing my recipe?--NeoBatfreak (talk) 07:11, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

No, I'm not a good cook. :) --Off-shell (talk) 07:15, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Вікі любить пам'ятки 2017 в Україні / Wiki Loves Monuments 2017 in Ukraine[edit]

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Вітаємо!

Запрошуємо взяти участь у міжнародному фотоконкурсі «Вікі любить пам'ятки»! До 30 вересня включно Ви можете подавати власні фото пам'яток історико-культурної спадщини України — і змагатися за призи. Звертаємо увагу, що завантажені матеріали будуть враховуватися у тій версії файлу, що був на час завершення конкурсу, тож якщо у Вас гарне фото, вантажте його одразу у високій роздільності. З регламентом конкурсу можна ознайомитися тут.

Якщо у Вас дуже багато фото, скористайтеся масовими завантажувачами або зверніться до нас.

Окрім традиційних номінацій за найкращі фото і найбільшу кількість сфотографованих об'єктів, у конкурсі також є спецномінація для Ваших відеоматеріалів про пам'ятки. Якщо у Вас розмір відеофайлу завеликий для конкурсного завантажувача, спробуйте скористатися стандартним завантажувачем, але не забудьте поставити ідентифікатор пам'ятки. Якщо виникатимуть будь-які труднощі — пишіть нам на wlm@wikimediaukraine.org.ua

Приєднуйтеся! Зі списками пам'яток можна ознайомитися тут. Більше інформації про конкурс дивіться у блозі конкурсу. – З повагою, Оргкомітет «Вікі любить пам'ятки». 21:09, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Nevruz[edit]

Hi. You added Category:New year celebrations in Turkey to Category:Nowruz in Turkey; however, you did not add Category:New Year celebrations in China to Category:Nowruz in China, nor did you add Category:New Year celebrations in the United States to Category:Nowruz in the United States. (I did not look at the other similar national cats.) Would you like to do something in order not to create a difference between these countries? Cheers. --E4024 (talk) 12:26, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi. The name "New Year celebration in ..." is ambiguous. It may mean only the celebration on December 31 according to the Gregorian calendar which is the international standard today, or the celebration based on the local tradition. I have no particular preference on this issue. --Off-shell (talk) 09:46, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply and for the file moves. I will take Turkish Nevruz out of the New Year cat. Nobody sees Nevruz like that in Turkey. It is the rebirth of nature with spring. ("Yılbaşı" means "capo d'anno".) Happy New Year to you! --E4024 (talk) 09:26, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

File:Oladyi buckwheat.jpg[edit]

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