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Category labels[edit]

THANK YOU so much for your help with categorizing some of my maps. :) Rarelibra 17:09, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

No problem!--Executioner 23:12, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

About Afghanistan[edit]

Why do you have to remove a picture of two Afghan women with burqa? It should be there. The burqa is very usual in Afghanistan and very usual in the Afghan community. If you just get it back. Tabasco 14:24, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
I added a better image of burqa (the one with Kabul police and Afghan woman walking on the street). Burqas are not only worn in Afghanistan but in huge areas of Pakistan as well. We need to show background with burqa women to show that it is Afghanistan and not Pakistan. Besides, the section in the gallery is about "people" in general, not about clothes. This may sound silly but it's possible that a foreigner person (man or woman that is not Afghan) can hide themselves inside the burqa, then they would not be people from Afghanistan.--Executioner 14:35, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I know and I understand. Alright, let's do that so keep it there you already added. Tabasco 15:20, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Old ethnic maps that I made[edit]

I'm thinking of deleting the first maps I made because they are too simple and only show the province. But maybe I should keep it? What do you think? Le Behnam 06:48, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

The maps you created do not represent the true ethnic make over of Afghanistan. There are already official government maps available so I don't care if you delete yours or not.--Executioner 09:00, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Ahmad Zahir[edit]

Ahmad Zahir never once called himself a Pashtun. He is a part of the Farsi civilization and culture. You should not use one false source to make such a false claim. Out of his hundreds of songs, he only sang 3 Pashto songs due to pressure by the Pashtunist governments.

If Ahmad Zahir was Pashtun as you falsely claim, then why did he never sing songs for Pashtun areas but he sang songs for Shamali (link) and Panjsher (link)? Why would a Pashtun sing songs for Shamali and Panjsher? Le Behnam (talk) 21:57, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

A person can sing in any language and that does not change their ethnic background. The reason why some Pashtuns sing in Dari (Persian) or Urdu rather than in Pashto is because Pashto is not a suitable language for music as compare to Dari or Urdu. Not many Pashto-speaking people listen to music as compare to other groups. We've already discussed Ahmad Zahir's ethnic background and New York Times reported that he is an ethnic Pashtun. "An ethnic Pashtun who sang mostly in Dari, he won fans in all ethnic groups." [1] You have to accept that information from NY Times because they have no reasons to lie about such things. Ask other Afghans and they all will say he is Pashtun. You Tajiks assume that anyone who speaks Dari is Tajik but that's not the case, you are mistaken.--Executioner (talk) 05:37, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


I think I have been extremely patient with you. I have taken the time to give you meaningful, civil responses, doing my best to ignore your repeated attacks on my character. I made allowances for you for various reasons, including that I suspected English was not your first language.

I am not happy to have you describe my attempts to engage you in civil dialog as "He also makes very long debates with other users over minor issues that don't require such..." You have, or at least had, a deep and fundamental understanding of copyright law. This was not a "minor issue".

FYI: I will not any allowances for you in future. Geo Swan (talk) 17:11, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

This, this and this show your character and your civility or civilness towards me. I'm from Afghanistan and when I fix the cats on Afghanistan related images you still revert it. This really annoys me.--Officer (talk) 19:16, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
  • WRT to your assertion that images labelled "Jalalabad" were actuallly in Kyrgistan... I have explained this to several times. Even if you said you were the Dean of the Geography Department at Jalalabad University, you could not expect a mysterious and unexplained edit to go unquestioned. On the w:Citizendium you might be able to expect this. But on the Citizendium you would have to submit a resume, and officially confirm your identity and credentials first. I believe you found my reversion frustrating. But you lapsed in not explaining your edit. I honestly believe my edit did not lapse from civility. It seems like you need to hear this from someone else. Your past responses suggest there is very little chance you will trust my judgment in this. So I strongly encourage you to ask other people. Ask for feedback on the Commons:Village pump, ask an administrator you trust.
  • The other 1 2 two edits that concern you were made by Sherurcij. I am mystified why you would treat them as my edits when there is overwhelming evidence that Sherurcij and I are two separate individuals. Geo Swan (talk) 18:56, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


Why do you notify me about this photo. File:Nasr.jpg, of which I have had nothing to do? Please notify the uploader instead. Have a nice weekend, Thuresson (talk) 06:18, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

I have notified you and Nick L [2] both because I wasn't sure who was the actual uploader. Sorry for the misunderstanding.--Officer (talk) 19:39, 27 October 2009 (UTC)


Please notice you are mentioned on ANI. Sherurcij (talk) 14:21, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

US Navy images[edit]

Hello Officer!

Thanks for your contributing those images: [3], [4], [5]. But according to the given flickr source all three images were taken by "U.S. Navy Petty Officer 2nd Class Aramis X. Ramirez", thus the appliable PD-US-Gov-tag must be "PD-USGov-Military-Navy" instead of "PD-USGov-Military-Air Force", as you stated. I have corrected this mistake for you in all of those three file. Please check other images uploaded by you for this mistake and correct it if given. Thanks and cheers, High Contrast (talk) 22:34, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll double check the others. I think I got confused between Navy and Air Force.--Officer (talk) 23:28, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Politics / Power Categories...[edit]

I do know, that pictures like this one or Categories like Category:Militia_men_in_Afghan_War_(2001-present) do not actually belong into the main category "Politics of Afghanistan".

I moved them there because I do think, that these pictures have something to do about how politics are made in Afghanistan. Of course it has nothing to do with the government in Kabul. But as a matter of fact in many regions of the country the influence of the government in Kabul is very weak and local tribesman and / or armed miliia groups are in power. So I think we should group these pictures in some sort of subcategory like "Local power authorities in Afghanistan" or similar which would belong in the main category "Politics of Afghanistan".

What do you think? --Zaccarias (talk) 21:17, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

As far as the current situation in the country there are no private militias other than the insurgent groups working against the government and people. Every province has a governor and they all appear to recognize the central government. There are also ISAF and Afghan national army bases in every province as well as Afghan national police. This image is a meeting between ISAF soldiers and local villagers so it wouldn't be Afghan politics. We should follow how militia groups are categorized in other countries or see what makes politics.--Officer (talk) 02:17, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Regarding The Images That I have uploaded[edit]

Dear sir/Madam the images that i have uploaded into the wikimedia commons are mine, i have scanned them and released them into the public domains. Some of the images were scaned from some acadamic books and, since there is no proper copy right law about the historical images of the kings and rulers in Afghanistan so it is obvious that every one can have access to the historical images, to publish them or use them in their works of research. I would also like you to know that you can find these images everywhere in other afghan websites. Actually afghans get happy to see the images of their past kings published anywhere in the internet.

In regard to one image with the name

I would like to say that if you could delete this i would be thankful to you. because i am going to publish the original image of this person, this one was modified by the computer graphic software and there is no red tie in the original picture.

Kind Regards

--احمد-نجيب-بياباني-ابراهيمخېل (talk) 17:08, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

User rights[edit]

Hello Officer!

Are you interested in this? If yes, please leave a note on my talk page. Greetings, High Contrast (talk) 07:16, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

You are now autopatroler. Please read COM:Autopatrolled for more information. Greetings and happy editing! --High Contrast (talk) 18:33, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks!--Officer (talk) 21:15, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Your assistance please[edit]

It is generally considered a serious breach of courtesy and collegiality to nominate images for deletion, without informing the uploader. Yet you did so here. In addition, please include the phrase "speedy deletion" in the edit summary, when you nominate images for speedy deletion. Geo Swan (talk) 15:21, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry but I'm not perfect, and I thought I did that. I usually always inform uploaders, see my history for evidence. I'll try to put that in the edit summary next time. Thanks!--Officer (talk) 21:19, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Did you nominate any other images for speedy deletion recently? If so, could you check to make sure you advised the uploaders of those images? Geo Swan (talk) 01:45, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Yes I have, here I notified the uploader.--Officer (talk) 02:20, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Oh and I just remembered that I did try to notify the uploader of the image you brought to my attention, but it was uploaded by User:File Upload Bot (Magnus Manske) [6] and I didn't see a talk page to hit it with the notification warning.--Officer (talk) 06:20, 11 July 2010 (UTC)


Hello Executioner, I have seen that you want to delete the file File:Designated_Marksman_Rifle_1.jpg. I don't understand why, as far as I know it is a US Marine Corps photo, in the public domain. I found the original on the English Wiki : Maybe it's because I forgot to add the origin information ? Regards rob1bureau (talk) 20:47, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

File:Massoud 2000.jpg and File:Massoud and Qadir 2.PNG[edit]

Both files are screenshots from video footage taken and produced by Ariana Films. Ariana Films is an independent Afghan film company established in the 1970s and based in Kabul. (see here) A film crew from Ariana Films accompanied Ahmad Shah Massoud in some occasions during the anti-Taliban resistance. Ariana Film videos are also accessible through the French media archive, which proves what I am saying by explicitly giving Ariana Films as the producer of the footage.

See here for producer information by the French media archive regarding the footage for screenshot File:Massoud 2000.jpg. INA states: Production producteur ou co-producteur: Ariana Films. At the end of the video footage you can also clearly hear the Afghan film maker (NOT any Western journalist) talk in Dari (Persian) to the ones being filmed.

The only mistake I made was regarding File:Massoud and Qadir 2.PNG. I gave Panjshir TV as the author as I had seen the footage there. But what they showed was really the work of Ariana Films (as the French media archive also confirms). Regarding File:Massoud and Qadir 2.PNG see here for the footage shown on Panjshir TV and see here for the confirmation of the French media archive that the footage is by Ariana Films.

Here you can see that Ariana Films i. e. was also the main producer of the video coverage on Massoud's funeral. Meanwhile, this footage i. e. was taken by a French journalist. —JCAla (talk) 31 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure about Ariana Films. The videos are made by French journalists and are archived in France (w:Institut national de l'audiovisuel). I don't see how Afghanistan would claim copyright to a work of France? You may leave comments at the deletion requests forum. Thanks.--Officer (talk) 01:32, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

The videos were not made by French journalists but by Afghan film makers from Ariana Films. Here (warning graphic images) and here you can also see parts of the original video footage by Afghan Ariana Films film crews. The Institut national de l'audiovisuel is just a media archive mostly for French media but in some cases (as in this) also for foreign media.—JCAla (talk) 3 April 2011 (UTC)

good faith[edit]

I was very disturbed by the aspersions you cast on the character and motives of the uploader, and said so.

Over a long period of time you kept accusing Sherurcij and I of being sockpuppets. You triggered a sockpuppet investigation, which confirmed we were not sockpuppets. I think, given how often you made this accusation, and how unpleasant you were about it, you really should have publicly acknowledged you were wrong.

I don't understand why this experience didn't teach you to be more cautious about leveling unpleasant accusations. Geo Swan (talk) 22:00, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi there Geo Swan. You may not like how I comment, who I am, how I look or what have you but you gonna have to learn to accept me here because this is an international project so lets understand that. This project is about uploads and image licenses, we must avoid picking fights or getting personal with other users. I've been reviewing uploads and I kind of figured out how to know who is making faithful or unfaithful uploads. I may not always be correct but in most cases I am. Why did you bring up the sockpuppetry again? The result of that was "From a pure checkuser point of view, they don't seem very related.", to me that means 50%/50%. I'm sorry if you are still hurt by that, I was dealing with a very disruptive person at the time who happens to be from your city. I get frustrated sometimes when people decide to upload images with bad intentions but I guess I need to take it easy. Your actions also frustrates me sometimes, like reverting my edits and adding PD-Afghanistan to images that were created by US military.--Officer (talk) 22:48, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Owning up to making mistakes is important. Let me start by acknowledging that my interpretation of the copyright status of Afghan images has undergone considerable change since the first time we disagreed -- which may be about four years ago now.
Let me add that those {{PD-Afghtanistan}} tags I applied to a few images you uploaded were mistakes -- good faith mistakes. I mistakenly applied the {{PD-Afghanistan}} to some dozens of other images were I now think it didn't apply. You left me some angry messages recently, about changing tags to {{PD-Afghanistan}}, when all of those changes were a long time ago -- not recent. I probably should have said so then, but I was still really angry about the sockpuppet accusations. I'll interpret your comments above as your recognition that Sherurcij and I were not sockpuppets. So let's put that behind us.
WRT to copyright, I am not reminding you of this to embarrass you, but your interpretation of copyright has also undergone quite a lot of movement too. If I recall correctly, you used to think that only USGov images that were downloaded from USGov sites were PD. And IIRC you used to think that if the USGov no longer hosted an image that they were able to claw back the rights to PD images.
I think you now understand that images taken by US Federal employees, in performance of their duties, are automatically PD. Even secret documents and secret images are PD -- like the Pentagon papers or wikilieaks.
What other people have tried to explain is that the US Federal government can acquire the intellectual property rights to images in other ways than having their employees take them. If a US Federal agency hires a firm to take pictures, depending on the contract, the IP rights can end up belonging to the US Federal government. But, because the images weren't taken by an employee, they aren't automatically in the public domain. The same holds true for images captured from suspected terrorists. Someone else had to clarify this point for me too.
Similarly, since images seized through economic sanctions, weren't taken by Federal employees, in performance of their duties, the USGovernment is not bound by statute to consider them PD. If they did acquire the rights economic sanction, unlike images made by Federal employees, they have to explicitly release them to the public domain.
WRT seizure -- it is my understanding that actual seizure is a second step. Most of the time economic sanctions only mandate freezing the assets. The suspect can't spend them, can't sell them. The second step of transferring them to the US Government can take decades.
I don't know if you have noticed, but I have called, in dozens of discussions, for the WMF to hire a lawyer who specializes in intellectual property rights to clarify the meaning of {{PD-Afghanistan}} images, and which images do or don't belong there.
SOme contributors who seem better informed than me have convinced me that {{PD-Afghanistan}} is much more limited than I originally thought. Unpublished images aren't PD, even if taken by Afghans. Only published images, in fact only those images first published in Afghanistan are PD.
As for whether Afghans born in Saudi Arabia can be Saudi citizens. I know that unlike the USA, being born in Saudi Arabia doesn't make you a citizen. At least two Guantanamo captives, Sadik Turkistani and Mohammed al Garani, were born in Saudi Arabia, but, so far as Saudi Arabia was concerned, they remained citizens of the countries their parents were from, China and Chad. Mohammed al Garani was sent to Chad upon his release, a country he had never been to before, where he didn't know anyone, and where he didn't speak the language. Rough. But, as the son of one of the richest guys in Saudi Arabia, I have no doubt Saudi Arabia was prepared to naturalize OBL's citizenship.
As for whether Arabs who live in Afghanistan are ever accepted as Afghans, I have no knowledge. I am willing to trust you that many local people would consider most foreigners as foreigners, for the rest of their lives, even if they fought heroically against the Soviets. The constitutions of many countries, including Bermuda and Palau, two countries that accepted captives from Guantanamo, don't allow the granting of citizenship to anyone who wasn't born there. And you may have meant to imply that OBL and his cronies could never be granted Afghan citizenship because that is Afghan law. But, I suggest, just as Saudi Arabia would bend the rules for a rich bin Laden, so would the Taliban.
I did read that OBL became an Afghan citizen.
As for whether Afghans trust him -- About a year ago 60 minutes did a segment about book about an attempt to capture OBL in Tora Bora, by a Colonel in the US special forces who wrote under the name "Dalton Fury". Their local ally was a guy from Torkham, named Hazrat Ali. According to Fury and his men Hazrat Ali's men were not an asset. They said that every time they heard OBL's voice on the radio they got excited, as if he was their hero too. Geo Swan (talk) 20:08, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
The Taliban was not the officially recognized government, but despite this they have made it clear in the media after 9-11 that OBL was only their guest. I'm aware that he married an Afghan woman and he let one of his daughters marry the leader of the Taliban, Mulla Omar, but that still doesn't qualify him to become citizen of Afghanistan. Some Afghans may have liked him but the great majority felt that he was a bad guy, for example like the United Front and the many anti-Taliban inside and outside the country. Al Qaida are hard core criminlas/prisoners/muderers kicked out from Arab countries and sent to Afghanistan, like how European prisoners were expelled and sent to Australia a long time ago. If you seen the 1994 movie w:No Escape then you'll probably understand my point. Many of these al Qaida men were given young Afghan girls as wives, they were feasting on Afghan women.
I'm glad you now understand the PD-Afghanistan, and if I remove this tag from other US created images please don't get angry. About the PD-USGov, it generally includes all images that the US government wants us to have access to. The ones found on their websites (i.e. are clearly "released" into the public domain. Sometimes a US government employee may take personal pictures that are not for others to use (not releasing them) and this will lead to a debate if wheather we can use them under PD-USGov. Let me give you an example which I just thought about. Suppose me and you are in the army, and I take your pictures while you're cleaning toilets or something like that and then I post these on a non-US military website. Would you feel ok about your pictures being uploaded to Wikipedia for everyone to see and laugh? This is the reason why PD-USGov applies only to images found on official government sites because they are first reviewed by government employees before being released. I my self don't bother much with images that don't have a clear permission.--Officer (talk) 21:34, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Osama bine Laden image DRs request[edit]

FYI, I made a request here that I hope is uncontroversial, but a glance from someone arguing for the opposite result in these DRs would be appreciated. Cheers.--Chaser (talk) 05:30, 15 May 2011 (UTC)


fyi. Geo Swan (talk) 17:05, 15 May 2011 (UTC)


I wrote here about using the {{ID-USMil}} template for images from ISAF. Geo Swan (talk) 17:43, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

OBL videos from Pakistan[edit]

Since the discussions about the frame grabs of the Osama bin Ladin videos from Pakistan were closed as keep do you think we should upload the source videos too? The source is here.

The videos are silent and all they show is OBL's face which we already grabbed but if you want you may go ahead and upload them.--Officer (talk) 18:32, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm still mulling over §104. Ultimately, I believe the WMF will need to get a decent IP lawyer involved to sort out Afghanistan. Marc Kupper (talk) 06:47, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

The Afghan copyright law will be implemented in the future so we just have to wait.--Officer (talk) 18:32, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

USAID uploads[edit]

Hi Officer,
I assume that the long descriptions for File:Doost Marble Factory in Herat-4.jpg, File:Bolan Poultry Farm-3.jpg and File:Doost Marble Factory in Herat-7.jpg have been taken from a press release. However, as I couldn't find it on the Flickr source, could you please add the source links. --Túrelio (talk) 08:21, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi, it's the passage on the left side from the Flickr USAID site here. They seem to add this sort of description to every set of images.--Officer (talk) 00:39, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

File source is not properly indicated: File:Indian and Afghan foreign ministers in 2011.jpg[edit]

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a question[edit]

I saw you added Category:Pashtuns to a bunch of files, including these: [7], [8], [9], [10], [11].

Can you tell someone's ethnic group just by looking at them, or just by knowing which province they are from? I know some Provinces, like Kandahar, are largely Pashtun. But Guantanamo captive 951, from Kandahar, was from the Tajik ethnic group. Geo Swan (talk) 11:20, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

I look at many things before I label people Pashtuns. The first image shows 3 boys from the Dubazai village in Logar Province and they are wearing typical Pashtun clothing. Their village is Pashtun name, they have typical Pashtun faces and their area is Pashtun area. So it's safe to add a Pashtun category, even if everyone in the image are not Pashtun. The 2nd image which shows 2 boys running is from Helmand which is the heart of southern Pashtuns and they are wearing the traditional Pashtun clothing. The same thing with the 3rd one. The 4th one is a girl covering her face and she is from Panjwai District which is totally Pashtun area. The 5th one is a girl from Zabul Province and that is a totally Pashtun province, her face resembles a Pashtun. I'm an expert on these things and that's why I add ethnicity categories to Afghan people. Afghanistan's population is majority Pashtuns who cover most of the villages areas while the Tajiks live mainly in urban areas like Kabul City, Herat City, Mazar City, etc. and that group usually have Iranian and Oriental features. This is a good example of Tajiks in Afghanistan. The Guantanamo captive 951 (Nasir) is from Zalakha, Afghanistan, and I have no idea where that is. If he was caught in Kandahar that's because it is a city where you have some minority groups (Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras, Baloch, etc.), and these groups usually have relatives come to visit from other far away places.--Officer (talk) 00:08, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply.
I have seen various maps showing the distribution of ethnicities in Afghanistan. They showed a surprising amount of discrepancy -- they differed markedly. What was consistent about them is showing a lot of tiny enclaves and overlaps.
You may have noticed I regularly check for more photos from Category:Photos by Todd Huffman. He is an aid worker in Jalalabad who posts a lot of interesting photos to flickr. He has taken several images of children, where he has commented on the phenotypic diversity found in Afghanistan. I remember a couple of images where some of the kids had very European features, standing side by side with chums with more Asian features. See the comments to this image, particularly the following response to a suggestion these kids unfortunately had one or more Russian grandfather(s).
I can assure you that there is very little Russian there. The ethnic Afghans, "Pashtuns", are a very blonde/blue eyed ethnic group. (Air Ariana being the national airline...the name gives a hint of what the real/old name of the "Pashtuns" used to be before conversion to Islam.
So, basically, you place images of people in ethnic categories, based on educated guesses? With regard to the extent to which we should make educated guesses... I am going to encourage you to get third party feedback on this.
Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 12:26, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Afghan ethnic maps only show the general areas where each group is native to but as you may know that during the last 30 yrs of wars many people were displaced and relocated to different parts, some temporary while others stayed permanently. It's obvious that light skin people live there because of its climate, it snows during winter in most parts of the country. The 10 yrs of Russian invasion has nothing to do with the light skin population, although a small number of Russian soldiers defected but those didn't remain in Afghanistan. They crossed over into Pakistan to apply for asylums and later they immigrated to the West. Also, most of the Russians in Afghanistan were non-whites from Central Asia such as Uzbeks, Tajiks, Kazakhs, Turkmen, Tatars, and many others.
The original Aryans who inhabited the Afghanistan region were white people, then the Greeks came and settled followed by other white invaders (i.e. White Huns). With the Indians, Turks, Arabs and Mongols who mixed with the Aryans, Greeks, and others you now have Afghan people. For notable people I check many websites such as this to learn their ethnicity. On the few that I added the Pashtun category, yes I use my educated guess. I have already explained on that.--Officer (talk) 03:25, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
I looked at other photos from that set. Todd identified those children as Kuchis, who were no longer nomads. Correct me if I am mistaken. Kuchis were not the only group that has traditionally been nomadic? Hazara -- have they also traditionally been nomadic? Isn`t there a nomadic group that some people link the European gypsies?
It is interesting that you say the Soviets mainly sent Uzbeks, Tajiks, Kazakhs, Turkmen, Tatars to Afghanistan. A couple of decades ago I read that the Soviet Union had a declining birth rate among its European groups -- whereas Soviet in its Asian republics had the same high birth rate as other muslim nations. That article predicted that, early in the 21st Century, if nothing changed, the population of the Soviet Union would be over fifty percent muslim. So, if the Soviet army proportionally represented all its ethnic groups we would expect close to half the Soviet soldiers would be from non-European ethnic groups.
I found it remarkable that, in their testimony before their Guantanamo status hearings, when the Afghan captives referred to the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, they always called them “Russians”.
It is an ugly thought, but Soviets wouldn`t have had to stay in afghanistan to father children. For thousands of years soldiers have raped local women when they occupied their homes, villages, towns, cities.
When to use our own educated guesses is a tricky issue. I suspect it would be frustrating for you if someone else challenged your use of educated guesses, and this lead to reversions of your work. I am genuinely concerned your use of educated guesses leaves your efforts vulnerable to challenges. Geo Swan (talk) 13:05, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

File:Afghan Girl Scouts-2011.jpg[edit]

Thank you, very nice!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 12:05, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

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I just stumbled over this. What is a ridiculous false accusation. May i ask you how you come to this false believe. IQinn (talk) 12:32, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Why do you say it is false accusation and false believe? The IP is located in Honk Hong [12], are you really in Honk Kong or did you use a proxy from a place like this to try to confuse me?--Officer (talk) 10:58, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Confuse you. :)) Yes i sent that message from Hong Kong. You have not explained why you thought i would be the sock puppet of User:The Original Wildbear. Please do so. Unsubstantiated allegations are seen as personal attack and they are uncivil. Iqinn (talk) 05:48, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
You and The Original Wildbear (TOW) both edit Wikipedia articles pertaining to the war on terror/Islamic terrorists and your first edit was in April 2009 about bears [13], TOW's first edit was in 2007 also about bears.[14] On the w:Khalid Sheikh Mohammed page you removed an image from the infobox and the next day TOW comes and adds a new one that he just uploaded. [15]. I nominates TOW's image for deletion and you show up on my talk page instead of him. No, this is not a personal attack and neither am I being uncivil. As a member of this project I'm suppose to help track those who are violating or abusing.--Officer (talk) 13:04, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
You made me laugh again. Bears?? :)) I am just correcting the category in my first edit. Quite an usual edit for a beginner. Not a sign of anything. Secondly that we as you claim (I have not even noticed him so far) work both in the same area just contradict your suspicion about the edition on w:Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. I move the inappropriate to the text of the article. That's all and some other editor who seems also to have this article on his watch list add another image. Why should someone even use a sockpuppet for that? Would not even make sense. Finally i have w:Khalid Sheikh Mohammed on my watch list and there was a notice about the deletion of the image. So i went there to check it out and found my name there posted by you with claims i would be a sockpuppet, what is wrong. So i show up here to tell you that this is wrong and ask you for an explanation. That as well is no sign at all. Now you have given your explanation and i tell you that your arguments are very lame. Based on that we could almost assume that everybody is a sockpuppet of anybody. I am not a sockpuppet of anybody. Think it over. Iqinn (talk) 19:23, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
I dunno... you and TOW also name files very similarly (i.e. File:Fbi gov ksm.gif and File:Afia-grad-01a.jpg) You should leave a comment at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Fbi gov ksm.gif--Officer (talk) 00:57, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Another even more than lame argument. Where is the similarity? Sorry but this is simply ridiculous and shows that you did not have good reason for your Ad hominem argument in the deletion debate. I also do not see any reason why i should give any comment at this discussion. My interaction with you here on this talk and your comment at the deletion discussion says enough. No good reason to waste my time with that. Go and attack someone else with baseless crap. Iqinn (talk) 04:39, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Bad manners. You don't need to attack me or my intelligence. Normal people usually say something like this "sorry that's not me... if you want you can file a checkuser".--Officer (talk) 14:01, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Your user name[edit]

Are you an Officer in the US military? Iqinn (talk) 05:04, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

No, it's just a name I chose by coincident.--Officer (talk) 14:02, 11 August 2011 (UTC)


Hi Officer, do you speak Pashto? If so, would be able to do the Pashto translation of at Cheers, russavia (talk) 11:24, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Yes I do but I'm not very good with translations. Maybe the following members can help you.
I'm also busy.--Officer (talk) 14:28, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Your assistance please...[edit]

You have offered opinions, in the past, on the ethnic derivation of individual's clothing. w:File:Obaidullah photo.PDF has been nominated for deletion. Could you take a look, and tell me whether the hat and clothing he is wearing is one worn by Pashtun people?

Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 15:42, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

This is the national or traditional clothing of Afghanistan, worn by all ethnic groups. Some people in the major cities usually wear pants and shirt, similar to the clothing of Iran. To my knowledge the person in the photo is about 95% chances an ethnic Pashtun, and this photo is most likely shot by an Afghan citizen in Khost, Afghanistan. A copy of this same photo should be found with the Afghan government, inside the public registration book in Khost, Afghanistan, and I think that could be considered publication. I'm certain that this a "Taskira" (national Afghan ID card[16] [17]) photo. In Afghanistan citizens are allowed to wear a hat or a turban in their ID photos, although this may change in the future when computerized IDs begin.--Officer (talk) 17:54, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the input! Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 13:57, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


Dear sir, I appreciate some of your work in checking the licenses of pictures here on Commons and making sure that they are legal. I have recently been looking at and trying to clean up some Indian-related pictures on Wikimedia. Unfortunately, there are some massive copyright violations of Indian pictures here. I would request your help in cleaning up pictures related to India here, since this is a major area with potentially hundreds of illegal pics uploaded. I am sure, using your tools, you can locate many Indian uploaded photos which should not be here. Do tell me if you are interested in working in this area. Regards,,,

I will start looking into that.--Officer (talk) 13:30, 17 November 2011 (UTC)


Someone voiced a concern at Commons:Village_pump#User:Officer. I hope they raised their concerns with you first, as we all deserve concerns to be brought to us first.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 02:37, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

The Montage 2.jpg&action=history revision history of File:Karachi_Montage_2.jpg strongly suggest you correctly labelled a copyvio. Congratulations on that one. Geo Swan (talk) 02:52, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for informing me.--Officer (talk) 16:20, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
I am convinced all the actions being questioned at COM:VP were made in good faith. I think some of the others made good points in their suggestion that some of the images merited regular deletion discussions, rather than speedy. In particular I have found Carl Lindberg to be exceptionally well informed, fair, and wise, and worth listening to.
I am going to repeat I am convinced all the actions being questioned at COM:WP were made in good faith. You are a good hard-working contributor.
Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 04:26, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

File:Nehru gandhi.jpg[edit]

Please do a deletion review for the picture as you have failed to expand on your argument/rationale. This is a well known image and the date is clearly mentioned as 6 July 1946. Having read some of the comments at village pump, it should be implicitly clear to you that don't go around nominating all images that are not obvious as speedy. The place is deletion review where others can check and verify first. You seem to be an amateur. Why don't you take a break from all this tagging and focus on something else? Leave this to the experts. 04:52, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Same goes for all the other Gandhi and Jinnah images. You are touching on assumptions and getting images that are possibly PD, deleted. Don't add speedy tags when you nominate in future, as this is proving to be a disaster. 04:55, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Re: Your e-mail[edit]

I'm not sure what you want me to do that you can't. If you need admin help on en.wikipedia, I can help, but I've got exactly the same permissions here on Commons that you do. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 22:41, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

I saw this and figured that you may know the user. He's the banned editor w:User:Strider11 and just got blocked here for 3 months for "abusing multiple accounts" [18] Although he was banned in the English Wikipedia he's still operating many active accounts over there to edit pages relating to Pakistan, and he uses some of those accounts to upload copyrighted images. It's like everywhere I click I see his multiple accounts. I feel that w:User:Mar4d should be indef blocked in Wikipedia (including his companion account w:User:Drspaz) for abusing multiple accounts because what he did here proved that he is a multiple account abuser and should be treated the same as others who have abused multiple accounts in Wikipedia. Notice that Mar4d doesn't even mention on his user pager that he also has another account, which is a requirement [19] that he failed to do. This may be him again, and this also. --Officer (talk) 10:06, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
Now I understand. That block was actually related to an edit conflict where the other participant was eventually blocked for sockpuppetry, so I was a little confused. I don't see anything that I'd feel confident acting on, especially since the last checkuser, to which you link, suggests that he is not a sockpuppet of Strider11. As for the multiple account notification, I don't see a problem, since he has a link on the alternate account page and the CheckUsers are aware. If you think he is using multiple accounts incorrectly, I'd advise you to file a w:WP:SPI over at the --Philosopher Let us reason together. 13:55, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
I see, but per WP:SOCK#NOTIFY (2.): links on both the main and alternative account need tagging --- I don't see that on his this one. There are so many suspecious accounts in the Pakistan topics it got me very confused and I think others will also be. In some cases checkusers are proven to be unreliable because the accounts are left sitting inactive for many months and they eventually become stale, or users from different continents share account passwords and they take turns editing. He's been around for a long time, and the fact that he did this, his ID mentions him as Australian, being blocked here by an admin, admin YellowMonkey's conclusion "They're all in one country" (refering to the Australian ISPs in the checkuser) --- is quite convincing that he's Strider11. But there's more, his pov, attitude, behaviour, knowledge, action and focus are very identical. Just 5 days after Strider11 was indef blocked w:Ironboy11 was created and is now also indef blocked due to mass copyright violations. Both were editing the same pages and focusing on the same topics as well as creating new pages, something that not all users do. I don't care about this but I thought of letting you know anyway, the banned editor Ironboy11 is right now using w:User:TopGun and causing problems in the en. Wikipedia.--Officer (talk) 16:59, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
He thinks I'm an enemy of Pakistan so he came here to find a way to stop me from deleting copyrighted Pakistani images. If I was an enemy of Pakistan I wouldn't have uploaded so many beautiful images of that country. I'm like many of you guys here, a volunteer to search for copyvios so that this site is kept clean from stolen images and in the meantime enjoy the experiance. I guess he thought this was a place to settle political matters or make scores.--Officer (talk) 17:11, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
As I said, if you want this investigated on en.wikipedia, you should create a new SPI request at en.wikipedia. I don't normally work with SPIs, so given the complex case you are making, I would be the wrong person to intervene in any case. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 23:22, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
As for the alternate account thing, the "notify on both pages" is not a requirement, note the words "should" and "ideally" in the policy. Notification on the main account is, to my knowledge, not customary - I don't have a notification on my main account's page for all of my alternate accounts and many other admins don't either. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 23:52, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
Getting him reported is a waste of time for me, he'll go and start using other accounts. Sooner or later he'll pick fights and get banned, I've seen many come and go this way.--Officer (talk) 01:46, 22 November 2011 (UTC)


I am glad that com:vp thread is resolved. You upload good images, and you do good work on tuning categories, and finding errors and other aspects to improve in the description. I see you have done quite a bit of good work since that thread was resolved.

Keep up the good work. Don't let challengers get under your skin. Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 04:32, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks.--Officer (talk) 13:48, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Farhad Darya[edit]

For File:Farhad_Darya.jpg, the uploader on German Wikipedia,, identifies as Alexander Hauk who is the owner of the photo. What more information is needed? You've not explained what you think is deficient. You can email them at (see if you want to clarify anything. Fences and windows (talk) 20:12, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't speak or understand German language.--Officer (talk) 20:17, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
What kind of response is that? I'm removing the tag until you give some better explanation of what is missing. How about you ask someone who does speak German (other than myself, I speak it at a basic level) if there's a problem before you try to delete the image. Fences and windows (talk) 01:16, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
I was refering to the email, you asked me to email them to clarify and I said I don't speak or understand German. The permission from the author is missing. Anyone can create an account here or in Wikipedia claiming to be Alexander Hauk.--Officer (talk) 15:20, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
@Fences and windows: You should write to They deal with this kind of problems and they speak German. --Wvk (talk) 07:58, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

File:Factory workers in Herat.jpg[edit]


This photo too is in public domain.

The EXIF tags and description page don't contain any author information, but I identified the author by the VIRIN code. --Dereckson (talk) 22:27, 22 February 2012 (UTC)