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copyright office[edit]

here is the website http://www.copyright.gov/. James Madison Memorial Building, 4th floor, look forward to seeing you. Slowking4 (talk) 21:41, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

File:Marked-ap-letter.jpg[edit]

I'm intending to delete File:Marked-ap-letter.jpg and your comment at the DR said to give you notice. MBisanz talk 23:48, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Dear Pete:

Many thanks for the video about using HotCat. You saved me from doing a lot of typing to enter categories on my first Wiki article!

Have a great weekend, Judith59 (talk) 15:27, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Barabara Roberts[edit]

I've responded at User_talk:Smallman12q#Copyright_question. Thanks for noticing it!Smallman12q (talk) 23:44, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Admin[edit]

As I said at your RfA, I think you could easily spend a few months making good comments on DRs and then come back and succeed. Lest you think that is makework, please understand that it is definitely not. We delete around 1,500 files every day and comments from known users on DRs make it much faster to go through the log and deal with them rapidly.

Although we all voted against your election, you had support for a future election from a number of very active Commons editors -- Herby, Trijnstel, INeverCry, MorningSunshine, PierreSelim, and me, as well as a number of others I don't know as well. (Note that I say "voted against" even for the neutrals -- since the requirement is for 75% of all votes, a neutral is effectively a vote against.) I suspect that when the time comes you could get one of us to nominate you.

On the other hand, I think you might want to look hard at where you really want to put your time. Among the competent and collegial editors here, the most effective voices are those who contribute regularly. You appear to be spread between quite a number of projects. You might find it better to concentrate on one. I was a regular contributor to WP:EN, with more than 100 new articles (most of them short), but I cut back to almost nothing there when I became an Admin here. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 16:30, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jim, thanks for the thoughtful words and the advice. I will of course continue to comment in deletion discussions when I have the time, I have noticed that there is too little commentary and consideration there, which is why I've stayed somewhat active there (it's not like I particularly enjoy it, but it seems important to do). I am pretty sure I will never be the kind of highly active admin you seem intent on attracting, but if pitching in on a smaller scale with the admin buttons, in addition to commenting etc., is desirable, I would love to help some day. I will try to check back with you in the future about RfA. Anyway, I appreciate your sharing your thoughts more fully. -Pete F (talk) 20:10, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

tiff question[edit]

hi, good question [1]. i responded, but i doubt it resolves it. at the mercy of a commons admin <shrug> when we do our LOC editathon, i'll try to get those folks uploading the Highsmith archive, few thousand more like that. Slowking4†@1₭ 22:41, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

FYI, mentioned a prior comment by you[edit]

FYI, I've mentioned a prior comment by you, at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Sex intercourse.jpg. -- Cirt (talk) 17:18, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Ryles and Marsh photo[edit]

Hi, Pete. Thanks for improving the photo NancyRyles&TomMarsh.jpg. It looks much better now. I don't have Photoshop, only iPhoto, and it is not as versatile (although even iPhoto probably could have improved it over my last version, if I'd been willing to spend more time on it). Maybe you can make the same changes to the cropped version, File:Nancy Ryles 1979.jpg, which someone created for use in the Oregon Women of Achievement list-article. Steve Morgan (talk) 08:22, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Jimmy Wales[edit]

"This makes [Jimmy Wales] not merely a 'semi-public' figure, but one of the very most public figures in existence."

I've been working for the Foundation for almost 4 years and my mother still has no idea who Jimmy Wales is. She does, however, know who Julian Assange is. Go figure! Hope you had a good Christmas. We should get some more beers in Oakland some time! Kaldari (talk) 21:03, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

crown copyright[edit]

Are works under Crown Copyright permitted on @WikiCommons? If not, why not?https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Copyright_rules_by_territory/United_Kingdom#crown_copyright

PeteForsyth @WikiCommons here's policy page https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory/United_Kingdom#Crown_copyright
Yeah, saw it. But, it seems weird -- seems to suggest that until CC has expired, the work is not permitted. But why not?
because, unlike US where govt work is public domain, govt retained copyright; however, now using {{OGL}}.
But the page linked seems to indicate all CC is freely reusable, not merely {{OGL}}. Can we discuss on wiki?
ok, twitter on wiki. my intrepretation is that the crown retained copyright (wikimedia frowny) but informally allowed most uses (smiley) it's unclear what the is legal impact of a web policy page (wikimedia wikilawyers frowny) where they release with "right" license then good , but need to migrate heritage material. Slowking4Farmbrough's revenge 22:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! I posted that initially in response to @WereSpielChequers' question here. Your tweets helped me understand better -- I think the reply I posted there gets to the heart of the matter. (Was just trying to get it back to wiki so that he would see the discussion! Thanks for indulging.) -Pete F (talk) 22:47, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
no problem. going to his question, i think that the law did not change, but a cultural change, the archivists have been busy, now that europeanana and OKF (and WMUK) have been active. don't know if it will have an impact on deletion discussions retroactively, should make a good partner for future glam activity with OGL license going forward. Slowking4Farmbrough's revenge 22:57, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

File:Kansas Senator, Susan Wagle.jpg[edit]

Hello. I saw that you said the usually state senators are not under a US Gov. domain, which I agree. When it comes to uploading portraits, I am not sure which one to use for these 'official portraits', which is why I just put it under the US domain. I usually just do logos. Would you have any suggestions? I would like to keep the picture on here… Thanks! Corkythehornetfan (talk) 00:35, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Moving[edit]

Great! I'm going to "gift" you a template for quickly categorizing the counties. :-) Stay tuned. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 20:58, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

File:P15exhibw.jpg[edit]

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File:P15exhibw.jpg seems to be free (or it would be proposed for deletion), but it was identified as having a wrong license. Usually, it is because a public domain image is tagged with a free license, or because the stated source or other information is not sufficient to prove the selected tag is correct. Please verify that you applied the correct license tag for this file.

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The reason given by the user who added this tag is: Although the photo was most likely taken during the 1905 exposition, and thus taken before 1923, the uploader provided no evidence to support the claim that the photo was published before 1923, and the web page linked as the source gives its source as the Oregon Historical Society, not a publication.

Steve Morgan (talk) 13:22, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Good point, @Steve Morgan:. I'll look into it a little and see if I can find a definite indication that it was published before 1923. -Pete F (talk) 16:29, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
So, looking into this more closely, I believe when I uploaded it, I interpreted the source page as indicating that the photo was published in the 1904 Spokesman Review article that was transcribed. But on closer inspection, that isn't directly asserted, and may not be true. This might need to be deleted; but I do still suspect that it was either published before 1923, or that its copyright has not been sufficiently asserted or protected. So it's probably in the public domain, but I can't prove it, at least not without more research than I'm prepared to do right now. -Pete F (talk) 22:54, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
Although I believe that you are right that it probably was published before 1923, and/or that its copyright probably was not sufficiently asserted or protected, I also feel if you cannot provide any real evidence to support those beliefs, the photo shouldn't be on Commons. I can't in good conscience endorse leaving it here. At least it's not the only photo Commons has of this long-gone building, although one of the other five exterior views of it is among a large number of uploads made by another user back in February, taken from the Portland city archives, which probably mostly need to be deleted for the same reason (one half of a discussion on that is on my talk page; I haven't had time to deal more with that, but hope to do so eventually). Steve Morgan (talk) 09:28, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I agree. Thanks again, @Steve Morgan: for catching this. -Pete F (talk) 22:37, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Pete. I was too busy (and/or under-the-weather) to get back to this until now, but I've now changed the problem tag on the file to Template:no permission since, so that the file can simply be deleted in 7+ days. That just seemed to be the easiest method in this case, and there's no great urgency, but if I really need to use a different method, I know that you or someone else will let me know. – Steve (talk) 9:05, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for staying on top of this. Good timing, actually -- @Magnus Manske: just created a new tool, "Evacuator," that facilitates copying files from Commons to other projects (sort of a reverse "CommonsHelper"). He blogged about it here: http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/?p=218 I think this file is a good candidate for testing out the system, since it might be usable on English Wikipedia under fair use (with appropriate NFUR) even if we can't find convincing evidence of pre-1923 publication, non-renewal of copyright, or the like. I tried, but ran into trouble (reflected in a comment that hasn't yet gotten through moderation on the blog post). But hopefully that will be squared away before the 7 days is up! -Pete F (talk) 20:25, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Re: your message to User:jorgeroyan[edit]

Hi

I have just seen that you left a message for Jorge. I would like to to inform you that he will not be answering because he passed away a couple of weeks ago.

Best regards, Barcex (talk) 21:07, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

@Barcex: I am saddened to learn of the passing of a colleague. Thank you for letting me know. -Pete F (talk) 21:13, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks much[edit]

Thank you for your COM:OTRS confirmation of File:Fuck by Christopher Fairman.jpg and responding to Commons:OTRS/Noticeboard#Fuck_by_Christopher_Fairman.

Most appreciated, -- Cirt (talk) 19:37, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your encouragement![edit]

Thanks for encouraging me to post my video (Golden Gate Bridge Moveable Median Barrier) to Commons. I would have never have thought to have done it otherwise, and I'm jazzed to have made this contribution! --Eekim (talk) 07:08, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

@Eekim: Glad you did it. It's a cool video! Watch for it on news reports...especially with your PD release... A few observations and questions for you:

  • I would suggest you the {{CC0}} template instead of PD. (Probably gives the more stickly organizations more confidence that it's legally enforceable, and that you won't sue them if they use it.)
  • I moved it into a more specific category for the bridge's median system..no, not created not by me, but by Frank Schulenburg. Check out his still shot of the installation!
  • I see you added category:Files by User:Eekim, but the category is otherwise empty. We should fill it up! Are you familiar with the tool Cat-a-lot? It's in your preferences -- and it's awesome. I'll show you how to use it some time, it'll make collecting your photos into this category a piece of cake.
  • I'm curious -- how was the WebM conversion? Did you find an easy way? One tool I meant to point out is this: [2] by Prolineserver.
Glad to have a chance to collaborate on this stuff! -Pete F (talk) 07:33, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice, Pete, and also for uploading the other picture. I changed the license of the video to CC0 as you suggested. I used Prolineserver's tool to convert and upload the video. It was mostly painless, other than needing to manually clean up categories and other metadata, which was fine. The tool automatically added the category:Files by User:Eekim category, but if you think it's useful, I would like to fill it up, if only to clear up licensing issues such as the one raised at File:Ulleungdo View.jpg. --Eekim (talk) 16:34, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
+1 Cool video, @Eekim:! --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 15:57, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, @Frank Schulenburg:. :-) Love your photo! --Eekim (talk) 16:34, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Question about source data on a map[edit]

Hello, I was looking at this map you uploaded several years ago, File:Map missoula floods.gif, which I may want to use for an article on en:WP. The Camas pocket gopher's genetic history was likely affected by these Missoula floods. The map of the floods currently used on the page is poorly sourced and the reviewers are taking issue. Your map is obviously public domain, but what is not clear (to me right now) is the source of the information in the legend. I don't see the color-coded demarcations for "areas swept by Missoula and Columbia floods." Do you remember the source or have any other ideas on how to help out? thanks! --Gaff (talk) 17:10, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for asking Gaff, always nice to know when something I did is useful..or even potentially useful..for another article. The map was downloaded from the USGS site; the source link is there, but as you probably found, the source page has been changed and that map removed. Unfortunately archive.org didn't preserve that page, either. However, you can see the full, uncropped version of the map in the page's edit history. I just copied the text out of the original graphic -- so you should be safe assuming it was USGS-approved text. Hope that helps! -Pete F (talk) 17:56, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! --Gaff (talk) 20:28, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

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Yours sincerely, Natuur12 (talk) 14:55, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Mobile uploads[edit]

Commons:Mobile access/Mobile upload needing check#Background

Are you still around??[edit]

I'd be interested in any suggestions you have on https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard&action=edit&section=4]. Thanks! Ellin Beltz (talk) 01:22, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Question on licensing[edit]

Hello. I want to upload a portrait of a university president, I have gained permission. My question is that what if the owners do not want it in the PD, but yet they still want it to be used? They think that a fair-use image would be better. They want my opinion, so before I respond I want to know what to say. Is there a license that says permission must be obtained by the copyright owner before redistributing anywhere outside of Wikipedia or does it have to be in the PD? Whatever the outcome is, permission will be sent to the OTRS team by the owner. Hope you're able to help. Thanks. Corkythehornetfan 04:21, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Corkythehornetfan, thanks for asking. All images uploaded to Commons must be released under a free license (or in the public domain) per COM:LICENSE. Things are technically a little different on English Wikipedia (which is where I assume you want the image to appear), but not in a way that meets their wishes; English Wikipedia is nearly unique among the Wikimedia projects in that it permits fair use as a justification at all; but it only permits it in a narrow range of cases. Photos of living people are explicitly excluded from being uploaded with fair use as a justification. (See item #1 here: w:en:Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria#Policy -- it's always possible to create a free alternative, simply by snapping a photo of a public figure in a public place.) I hope this helps (though I realize it's not the answer they're hoping for). -Pete F (talk) 04:41, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick reply! I will talk with them and see what they want to do. Hope 2016 is good for you! Corkythehornetfan 05:05, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Wiki Events[edit]

Does every wiki event these days have to be about sex, sexual issues and gender? After the "let's pick up more women" of the Mexico event, now to have "transgender" issues be front and foremost at a *High School* age wiki event. That mashup is highly inappropriate.

I looked up how many Americans are transgender, and found this on en:wiki: "An earlier report published in April 2011 by the Williams Institute estimated that 3.8 percent of Americans identified as gay/lesbian, bisexual, or transgender: 1.7 percent as lesbian or gay, 1.8 percent as bisexual, and 0.3 percent as transgender."

I don't see any reason to push 0.3% of American's issues as the #1 thing at a Wiki event. The group of local kids who would have been the target market decided to skip it because they said it sounds seriously wierd. I too find a disconnect between the idea of Wikipedia and pushing transgender? Maybe the organizers were playing buzzword bingo but why couldn't it be Wikipedia for world peace instead? Ellin Beltz (talk) 14:02, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi Ellin Beltz, glad to know the event caught your interest, but not so glad about the way it did. Hmm. I can't speak to "every" wiki event, only the ones I've been involved with...where sex and sexual issues have never been a focus, and gender only occasionally (though I do think it's an important one in the Wikipedia landscape).
I didn't select the author for this event, but can pass the feedback along to those who did. I suspect Checkingfax may be interested. But I will say I am looking forward to talking with her; her book looks fascinating.
The event has never been intended as primarily for high school students -- but even if it were, I don't see how this topic would be a problem. We read the news when I was in high school...gender and transgender issues have been in the news a lot lately. I can't see how anything we get into at the WikiSalon would be any less appropriate for a high school audience than what they can see on CNN or PBS.
This is the first of a monthly series. If you want to put together a talk about Wikipedia and world peace, that would be most welcome. There are many, many rich topics relating to wikis...we are open to them all. Please check out meta:Monthly WikiSalon in San Francisco and add any ideas or discussion topics there...it's a great time to be planning for future events, as we have no commitments to any future speakers yet. -Pete F (talk) 17:31, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi, Ellin Beltz. I invited Kris to be a presenter at the inaugural Bay Area WikiSalon. We (eight of us) all invited several folks from the Bay Area and she was the first to respond. Jan from Nueva was the 2nd to respond. Because of scheduling conflicts both preferred to make their presentations in April instead of being toggled to the May WikiSalon. Kris is a Berkeley based, female author, originally from Norway. Her husband Herbert, who accompanies her to all presentations is a Psychiatrist at Children's Hospital in Oakland. Personally, I am interested to hear how Kris researched her book. She traveled around the world with her husband doing that. She is on a "crazy trip in Italy" right now with her husband. As soon as she gets back Pete will do a pre-interview with her to discuss more about her presentation. Pete will moderate the actual discussion and Pete is a very capable moderator. I do not expect any graphic sex talk, although trans women in male prisons are subject to forcible rape, and that topic may be broached. I will leave that to Pete to moderate. We are hoping to attract a diverse and inclusive audience to future WikiSalons. My town only has 0.6% Pacific Islanders, yet when they present at events or meetings they are not seen as pushing their issues. America is a melting pot, and trans folks (and Pacific Islanders) are part of that soup. Additionally, we are having two short presentations, and Kris is #2 on the roster, not #1 (even though Kris confirmed first). Please suggest presenters for future WikiSalons, especially specific ones that you have a contact method for. At our planning meeting we concurred that we should try to balance non-tech presentations and tech presentations by having them alternate each other, and maybe skip some months. Which local kids are skipping this event? I am truly sorry you are upset about all this. By the way, is your area being inundated by crane flies? I have never seen so many in such a short time in my life. Thank you for your comments. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 06:26, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
Apologies, I don't see how ethnicity and sexual issues can be compared directly. Currently by Western culture, race is considered a fixed article. Anyone masquerading as another race catches hell in the media; while men can turn into women any time they want and be on the cover of a magazine and get awards. Curiously women turning into men don't get the same coverage. Therefore race is permanent, gender currently is considered permissively fluid by the media.
I think you're missing a couple of things by getting defensive. (1.) That going out on any fringe is not inclusive. For analogies: let's schedule a wiki meeting in the middle of the Folsom Street Fair next October. How about a wiki meeting at a Christian revival in July? I know! Let's have a wiki meeting at a nudist camp and pass out "citation needed" butt towels. While I am certain some subset of the population would find that hilarious and appropriate, there is another subset who would not - and the media would have a field day. My concern is that Wiki meetings seem to be going to sex topics and while sex may sell, it makes events appealing only to the subset which finds these sorts of topics appealing already, like yourself. (2.) The other point is that at 0.3 of the population in a jail of 4200 prisoners (approximate population of San Quentin), there would be approximately twelve prisoners who might be transgender. It seems an extremely narrow topic and the mashup of transgender, prisons, high schoolers and wiki seems like a stretch. You did confirm what I suspected, the presenter is a friend of a friend and that's why they were selected, not because of any involvement with the wiki projects. The kids who won't be going are the ones who went "ewwww" when I read them the notice. And yes we have crane flies, but we have bugs all the time in the northern redwoods far from the city smoke. Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:04, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
Ellin Beltz, I've heard your complaint. I don't find it compelling; there is nothing creepy or weird about our guests or their gender identity or the topic of their studies. You are now repeatedly complaining about something that is beyond our immediate control (an alleged pattern among Wikipedia events on the whole). Is there an outcome you'd like to see that you think we can all agree to? If not, what is the point of continued analysis? We have an event to plan, and a number of participants are looking forward to it. We will have other events, on other topics. Maybe world peace, maybe the Folsom St. Parade, maybe Christianity. It will largely depend on who comes forward with potential guests, and in many or most cases those guests will be friends. I can't imagine why that would be a problem. This one event does not aim to define Wikipedia on the whole. We're just some people getting together to talk about some stuff. I encourage others to do the same, either with our group as a vehicle or separately. We will not be canceling the event or the speakers based on your discomfort with the topic. Is there some other course of action we should be considering? -Pete F (talk) 21:22, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, Pete, I was replying to questions and issues raised above. I never said "creepy or wierd" - those are your words. "Repeatedly" is not usually considered one reply to direct questions. But as you are obviously upset I will not bother you again. Ellin Beltz (talk) 02:42, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Ellin Beltz, both "weird" and "creepy" were words I took from your comments (the latter on the Wikipedia page) -- but, perhaps I attached more significance to them than you intended, in which case I'm happy to drop the matter. I am happy to continue any discussion of how to improve this or future events, to whatever extent there is an opportunity to do that. -Pete F (talk) 15:44, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

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I created duplicate files, trying to clean them up. Pete F (talk) 05:07, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

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Grand-Duc (talk) 22:06, 28 June 2016 (UTC)