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File:BU West sign.JPG[edit]

Hi there. I saw your upload File:BU West sign.JPG and File:BU West station sign.JPG. However IMO these are copyrighted and hence you cannot release your work under a free license. Are these signs exempted from copyright laws? --Ben.MQ (talk) 22:55, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

MBTA station signs - and the maps on them - consist of geometric shapes and text, with no real attempt for geographic accuracy. Thus, they don't meet the threshold of originality for copyright. (Compare, for example, the New York City subway map, which is (unusually for rapid transit) geographically accurate and formed of complex shapes, and thus copyrighted.)
I should also note that this is one of only two BU West signs that remains uncopyrighted; six other signs contain artworks, for which I am currently talking to the artist for future CC licencing and use on Commons. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:43, 19 June 2011 (UTC)


Commons-emblem-issue.svg File:BU_West_sign.JPG has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

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Ben.MQ (talk) 14:06, 2 July 2011 (UTC)


No, what i discussed was metro maps in general (not as an element of a photography). What i said is that exemplars of metro maps are copyrighted material. It's clearly an original graphical representation of information. And at least it's publicly claimed as copyrighted material by some nation wide European railroad companies. It's something well known, discussed in the press and by lawiers. BUT. It can be redrawn, with your own way of doing it, and published with a free license. If it's not a direct copy, if it's your way of representing the information, it's ok.

As an element of a photography, it's more complex : there's no COM:FOP in USA. But here, it's not just a map, it's dealing with a photo of a sign (or the correct english word is poster ? public notice ?). What remains to be discussed is the importance of this sign on which there's the maps. The main problem is that the sign is the main element of the photography, that the photo is centered on it, and other elements are just surrounding it. Hence it's a photo of the sign, and it's a copyvio.--Lilyu (talk) 21:57, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

(Hoping you're watching my talk page so as to keep the discussion in one place; if not, then after 24 hours I'll copy it to yours.)
To answer your question, the usual English word would indeed be 'sign'.
I understand that the MBTA claims copyright on that map. However, I do not believe that it is actually copyrightable under US law (where picture was taken and uploaded from). In my opinion, it consists of nothing but a variation of public domain elements - lines, circles, and curves; I can even dredge up a citation for them being standard curves. Thus, the maps would not meet threshold of originality and not be viable for copyright protection.
In any case, it's not a huge deal; the maps are old (Silver Line has been changed since the map was put up, and 4 Green Line stops eliminated) so it couldn't be used as a commercial map, so I suspect it at minimum is eligible for fair use. I'm more just worried about the proliferation of such pictures on Commons.
Thanks for your reply Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:25, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
I usually stop discussing when people raise the "threshold of originality" argument on Commons. People over use it. Remember that there are complex compositions of simple geometric forms that are copyrighted. Based on copyright records, the argument that "oh if i look at each elements of it, i find simple shapes, so it's not copyrightable" is not an efficient way to discriminate creativity.

The only truth about it is that only a judge can decide if something is original enough to be copyrighted or not. All we can do is take it into consideration and stay cautious. So, something like this Paris Metro map.svg is not a simple square or circle, and if a company publicly claim copyright on it, we should'nt directly host it. But we can create another map that originally represent the same information in its own way (not a copy-paste), and publish it with a free license. A clean svg with clear authorship and a free license : OK. A bad photo showing a blurry sign made by someone else with claims of copyrighted material : Why bother ? --Lilyu (talk) 02:41, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
The reason is for the sign to illustrate the Wikipedia article. There's a lot of MBTA stations where all you possibly have to illustrate is the station sign - there's not much in the way of platforms. I don't need the map there; it just happens to be on the station signs. (The others at BU West have artwork, for which I'm currently in contact with the artist). That's why the bad photo with the blurry sign. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:42, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
You should have rather take photos of the station, not a close up of a sign; like John Phelan Boston University West MBTA station, Boston MA.jpg
Buildings are ✓OK (COM:FOP)
But whatever, for a two line article on a station...--Lilyu (talk) 04:01, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

TUSC token 65035a7b1ec791fdee33fb13100db5ea[edit]

I am now proud owner of a TUSC account! Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:44, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Hudson Bergen Light Rail map[edit]

Shiny and new indeed! Thanks! But... (You knew it was coming, else I wouldn't be here) There's no "B" Bayonne Flyer icon at the 8th St station. The Flyer does serve that station, so it needs to be added. (I suck at svg's, else I'd take care of it myself.) Thanks. Oknazevad (talk) 04:54, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the suggestion! Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:26, 4 September 2011 (UTC)


I'd like to thank you for the renaming.--PereslavlFoto (talk) 22:08, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Rivista di Scienza[edit]

Grazie! --Alex_brollo Talk|Contrib 06:53, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the Aptosimum rename[edit]

Hi Pi, thanks for that rename. There is someone there who takes a lot of photos, some very beautiful, but renames them with such egregious abandon that I find myself muttering over the species that I have no acquaintance with and no references for. Is there anyone cruising the media routinely for catching such mavericks? Cheers JonRichfield (talk) 19:58, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

About renaming[edit]

Why do you rename File:Голодомор.jpg? Filename in non-English language is not a reason fore renaming. Commons is international project.--Anatoliy (talk) 21:00, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Language was not the issue here. The existing filename was just plain generic, while the new description actually says something about the picture. If you want to suggest a more descriptive filename in Russian I will gladly move it to that. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:16, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

nother strip request[edit]

have a request in at the graphics lab for another strip (this time with biologically related F molecules). Appreciate if you can work more strip magic! TCO (talk) 02:53, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Done; see WP:GL/I (permalink). Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:41, 5 February 2012 (UTC)


Hello, I ask you to rename the following files: File:Flag-map of Russian SFSR (1937-1954).svg in Flag-map of Russian SFSR (1945-1954).svg

File:Flag map of Kirghiz SSR (1952-1992).svg in Flag map of Kirghiz SSR (1952-1991).svg

File:Flag map of Tajik SSR (1953-1992).svg in Flag map of Tajik SSR (1953-1991).svg

File:Flag map of Turkmen SSR (1953-1992).svg in Flag map of Turkmen SSR (1953-1991).svg

File:Flag map of Ukrainian SSR (1949–1991).svg in Flag map of Ukrainian SSR (1954–1991).svg

File:Аlag-map of Commonwealth of Independent States (de facto).svg in Flag-map of Commonwealth of Independent States (de facto).svg

File:Flag-map of Mexico (1823-1853).svg in Flag-map of Mexico (1848-1853).svg

D5A (talk) 17:04, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Hello, now I will explain the reasons:

File:Flag-map of Russian SFSR (1937-1954).svg in Flag-map of Russian SFSR (1945-1954).svg (This file contains an error as follows: pre-1945 borders of the RSFSR had the other.)

File:Flag map of Kirghiz SSR (1952-1992).svg in Flag map of Kirghiz SSR (1952-1991).svg

File:Flag map of Tajik SSR (1953-1992).svg in Flag map of Tajik SSR (1953-1991).svg

File:Flag map of Turkmen SSR (1953-1992).svg in Flag map of Turkmen SSR (1953-1991).svg (For these three files, an explanation of this: the one who called them so meant that the flag of the republic existed before 1992 (there were flags of Soviet republics and the independent states), but the files contain the names of this Soviet republics, as they existed before 1991.)

File:Flag map of Ukrainian SSR (1949–1991).svg in Flag map of Ukrainian SSR (1954–1991).svg (With this simple: until 1954 the boundaries of the Ukrainian SSR were other (File:Flag-map of Ukrainian SSR (1949–1954).svg))

File:Аlag-map of Commonwealth of Independent States (de facto).svg in Flag-map of Commonwealth of Independent States (de facto).svg (Here, instead of "Flag-map" written "Alag-map")

File:Flag-map of Mexico (1823-1853).svg in Flag-map of Mexico (1848-1853).svg (The fact that in 1848 Mexico had sold part of its territory U.S.)

D5A (talk) 09:34, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

I have moved all files as requested. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 13:52, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Hello, thanks for the renaming of the previous files. I have to ask you to rename the following:

File:Flag-map of Czechoslovakia.svg in Flag-map of Czechoslovakia (1945-1993).svg (Until 1945, there were other border.)

File:BelarusStub.svg in Flag-map of Belarus.svg

File:Belgium stub.svg in Flag-map of Belgium.svg

File:Cyprus stub.svg in Flag-map of Cyprus.svg

File:Czech Republic stub.svg in Flag-map of the Czech Republic.svg

File:DenmarkStub2.svg in Flag-map of Denmark.svg

File:DenmarkStub2.png in Flag-map of Denmark.png

File:Greenland stub.svg in Flag-map of Greenland.svg

File:Estonia stub.svg in Flag-map of Estonia.svg

File:Faroe Islands stub.svg in Flag-map of the Faroe Islands.svg

File:Finland stub POL.svg in Flag-map of Finland.svg

File:France Flag Map.svg in Flag-map of France.svg

File:South Ossetia map flag.svg in Flag-map of South Ossetia.svg

File:Hungary stub.svg in Flag-map of Hungary.svg

File:IcelandStub.svg in Flag-map of Iceland.svg

File:Isle of Man stub.svg in Flag-map of the Isle of Man.svg

File:Jersey stub.svg in Flag-map of Jersey.svg

File:Luxembourg geo stub.svg in Flag-map of Luxembourg.svg

File:Netherlands stub.svg in Flag-map of the Netherlands.svg

File:Norway flagmap.svg in Flag-map of Norway.svg

File:Poland map flag.svg in Flag-map of Poland.svg

File:Slovakiatynkä.svg in Flag-map of Slovakia.svg

File:Sverige FlaggKarta.svg in Flag-map of Sweden.svg

File:Outline of Ukraine.svg in Flag-map of the Ukraine.svg

File:UK Outline and Flag.svg in Flag-map of the United Kingdom.svg

File:Map-Flag of the Soviet Union.svg in Flag-map of the Soviet Union.svg (For all others: more correct name.)

D5A (talk) 16:18, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

(I later chose not to move these; there are lingering questions over the usefulness of these photos and their purpose, and I don't move images if there's a potential question about the files.) Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:47, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Wickford Junction Depot[edit]

I hope this can help: I saw you uploaded some poor newsprint ones recently, and I don't know if this is the same location. Secondarywaltz (talk) 20:33, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

3 levels of shading?[edit]

I just discovered your cache of special photos and graphics, and enjoyed browsing them. I did re-discover an anomaly I had noticed while reading an article on the MBTA commuter rail. The map File:Mbta district.svg has a description implying 3 levels of shading (original MTA district, original MBTA district, and 1999 MBTA district), but I only see 2 levels of shading on the map. Did I miss something? --Reify-tech (talk) 02:09, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Rename of File:Francis Hayman - Portrait of a Gentleman.jpg[edit]

It was correct the way it was, as File:Gainsborough - Hayman - Portrait of a Gentleman.jpg; note the dual crediting at the Museum's page for the painting. This was originally noted in the file page, but was incorrectly changed by this bot edit a couple years ago. Postdlf (talk) 22:25, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

(Note: was resolved by an admin per my request within a few days). Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:13, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

File:Greater Bristol Metro proposed network map March 2012.svg[edit]

Hi. Thanks for all your work on File:Greater Bristol Metro proposed network map March 2012.svg. Cheers. -- Trevj (talk) 11:39, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Blue Line Extension to Lynn[edit]

The drawing you uploaded needs amending. You have shown the proposed route starting in the highway outside the station?? The actual railway line is off to the right.

I din't create the file; I merely copied it cross-wiki from en.wikipedia. Take a closer look at it; the image matches up with the corrects ROWs. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:12, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

File:Perryville Amtrak bridge.jpg[edit]

Looking at File:Perryville Amtrak bridge.jpg, are you sure that's an E60? I think it's an AEM-7 but I can't read the road number off the front. Mackensen (talk) 13:28, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

You know, on a second look, that is an AEM-7. Thanks! Pi.1415926535 (talk) 15:31, 15 November 2012 (UTC)