User talk:Ricky81682

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Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, Ricky81682!

Deletion requests[edit]

Howdy. Normally, when listing a deletion request manually you don't subst the {{Delete}} template like you appear to have done here.--Rockfang (talk) 21:33, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Your comment on Template talk:WikiProject United States[edit]

I can give you the code to fix that if you want. Reguyla (talk) 22:03, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

BTW I just looked and that's not the only cat that's not right. There are several for that Task force that aren't right. Reguyla (talk) 22:10, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
What are you talking? Are you talking about en:wiki? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 02:11, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Yes. If I were to put the code to fix it in my sandbox here then someone could simply paste it there and fix the template. But there are certainly others, such as Redrose, that could do it as well. Its just a matter of how long you want to wait to fix the problem. Reguyla (talk) 02:15, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
You're currently banned there so thanks but no thanks. It's already been fixed anyways. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 02:28, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Ok no worries. BTW, there are a couple other problems they didn't fix. A couple of the other cats in that group are also wrong. If you look through them and compare it to the actual categories that exist you'll see which ones. Also, some of the cats need to be created, they do not currently exist. Good luck. Reguyla (talk) 02:44, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Indio categories[edit]

I noticed that you've created by-month-by-year categories for Indio - a rather small city. Such categories should only be made for states and countries; dividing images of small cities like that merely creates a lot of very small categories that don't actually help anyone. Given how few images of Indio we have other than Coachella, we don't need any date-based categories for the city more specific than by decade, and probably not at all. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 06:10, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

@Pi.1415926535: That seems like an odd categorization given the number of categories within Category:Months in the United States by city and the breath of categories like Category:June 2000 in the United States by city for each month. Now, Indio is a small town that only seems to have the month categories now but I'd say that's more a function of someone not moving files from the national category into states and then into cities as needed. I find a number of files if I spent more time searching Commons. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:08, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
None of those by-month-by-year categories are needed at the city level - note how small they are even for the biggest cities - and certainly not for Indio. How does creating these categories - which bury images in several layers of subcategories, thus making them more difficult to find - help anyone? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 07:15, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
Well, that's your opinion. I think it's helpful when you see categories like Category:1933 in Tennessee separated into months and cities and the later years in states ones (even the US) are gigantic. If you think all the city categorization is excessive, then move for deletion but the problem is that they are underused at the moment as the yearly city ones are not navigable to me. I don't see the point of [year by city], [month and year by country] or [month and year by state] with thousands of pages and the city pages being equally crazy. Indio has shrunk because a number of those images were moved into the relevant festival year categories rather than month and year on their own. Otherwise it would have been a few dozen photos in each month category. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:24, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
Let me be more blunt and give you an admin warning: Stop creating these categories. In multiple discussions and CfDs, consensus has clearly been that intersection categories (categories that divide by unrelated elements, like both time period and location) should only be as detailed as absolutely necessary. No one ever has a use case of "I need an image from this city that has to be from this specific month", and certainly not for mid-sized cities in California. You are creating numerous one-image and one-subcategory categories that are useful to no one except you. If you continue to create these useless categories, I will seek a formal ban of you creating them. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:25, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
Any city by month and year category? I know that there's no equivalent of WP:SMALLCAT here (I've searched CFD and only saw a few discussions regarding vehicle designations) and Commons:Categories#Categorization_tips suggested it. I didn't see those discussions but if they exist, I will move and request deleting the categories myself.-- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:09, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
The only cities where they could possibly be useful is a handful of large, very-frequently-photographed cities - those with hundreds of images per year (not including specific events with their own categories) even before this decade. Santa Monica, Indio, Oakland? Not a chance. See Commons:Categories for discussion/2015/01/Category:2013 in Miami by month which contains a listing of numerous previous discussions that establish that intersection categories this specific should not be made. Pinging @Themightyquill, Mjrmtg: you've both been involved in previous discussions. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:47, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
A discussion started in 2015 with a single !vote in 2017 closed in 2018? I think that's a bit much to argue a consensus of any sort. Especially when the other discussions haven't been closed at all. Even Commons:Categories for discussion/2013/06/Category:16th April 2012 in Switzerland which is way more extreme has remained in place I'd suggest a larger discussion to confirm but I'll willing to talk about it more. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 04:11, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
Also, I find it quite interesting that you chose not to ping User:Ardfern who had a differing opinion on the matter. Do you really think that's the best way for us to discuss this matter? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:42, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

I did not realize Ardfern was active. Not only have you continued to create these useless categories, but you are making many blatant errors on the way. Go find something else to do. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:51, 13 March 2019 (UTC)


I'm not saying [1] and others like it are exactly wrong, but the image is in Category:Seattle and the Orient, which in turn is in Category:1900 in Seattle. - Jmabel ! talk 23:11, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

@Jmabel: You're right. I didn't see that. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 23:22, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

You may need to be a little more careful[edit]

I generally like what you are doing, but...

File:Construction of Cedar River Pipeline, 1900.jpg (and quite possibly others): not "in Seattle". I reverted you on this one and the other version of the same photo.

The Cedar & Tolt Rivers are the sources of Seattle's water, but most of the pipe is outside city limits; neither river actually reaches the city.

I'm guessing you might have made similar errors on files not on my watchlist. - Jmabel ! talk 01:28, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Ok, I'll double check but I thought I had read that the construction was done in Seattle and ergo the picture was in Seattle. I'll be more careful in the future. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 02:12, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
It's part of the city's water infrastructure, but it's outside the city. Just like the old Brooklyn Waterworks on the border of Freeport and Baldwin, New York was 20km or so from Brooklyn, or (for another Seattle example) the massive hydroelectric system in the Skagit Valley is part of the city's electrical infrastructure, but is a good 120km from the city. Pretty common for big cities to have infrastructure that extends way into their hinterlands. - Jmabel ! talk 05:03, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

small cats[edit]

What is the point of breaking up a category that had only 5 members in the first place? - Jmabel ! talk 15:48, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

@Jmabel: Honestly, I was looking at some other category at the time but I think I was working on expanding Category:1909 photographs of the United Kingdom and the other countries by looking through Category:1909 photographs. Maybe it's better to delete it. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 23:59, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
I don't have any strong opinion. The one U.S. photo there got there by way of {{Taken on}}. In general, for that era (really, for anything before about 1990) I've been avoiding adding the location parameter to that because there are usually so few photos known to be on a given day. - Jmabel ! talk 01:29, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
@Jmabel: Yes, I did that. Looking at Category:Photographs of the United States by date, it seems like others create categories anyways. Maybe I'll just flesh out the month categories instead. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 01:33, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Please, you are really pushing this too far. There is no good reason to break out the few Seattle photos from, say, 1909 where we know the month into Seatle-by-month categories. All it does is make it harder for people to get a sense of what is out there. In general, we haven't broken Seattle down to by-month before 2013; I could see pushing that back to 2006 or so, but these things from a century earlier? No way. The whole point of breaking things up by time smaller than a year within a geographic region is to keep the category sizes manageable so things are easily scanned, but when we break out a bunch of tiny categories it has the opposite effect. - Jmabel ! talk 20:22, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

I'm reverting it but remember that that was the year of the Category:Alaska-Yukon-Pacific Exposition in seattle and there's hundreds of pages that cover Seattle that particular year. There's a lot of pages where the month isn't noticed.-- Ricky81682 (talk) 23:16, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Having done categories for at least 500 A-Y-P and probably 100 other Seattle images from that year, I can say with confidence that not even 10% of these indicate what month they are. - Jmabel ! talk 23:38, 4 April 2019 (UTC)


Themightyquill (talk) 08:39, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

RE: Indonesia photographs templates[edit]

Hi, I only replaced one category in the template. I made that edition so that the templates of Indonesia remain with the same organization as those of other countries I'm making, that have no problems, since in many templates I found that they were incomplete or with reference to another country.

I think your correction is right, apologies for not having it into consideration, the way the category of the day is under the Category:(Month & year) Indonesia photographs is way more accurate that Category:(Month & year) in Indonesia. Anyway, with my edition it was going to be under Photographs of Indonesia by date, so it was not going to remain completely separated of categories of photographs of Indonesia. Thanks.--Frodar (talk) 06:38, 1 May 2019 (UTC)


I just gave you autopatroller rights in Commons. In my opinion your edits do not need patrolled anymore. Thank you for a lot of good work! Taivo (talk) 21:28, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Bear hunting Kodiak[edit]

Whatever is the point of creating one-entry categories? All you are doing is adding an extra layer for people to click through while removing the ability to quickly scan what is available or do any kind of visual search. Dankarl (talk) 01:35, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Which categories are you talking about? In the Indonesia structure, most of the time, there are a number of single categories already there so I'm just continuing them. At the same, given the tens of thousands of unsorted images there, I find that many get filled up as I progress. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 18:32, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

removed Category:Black and white photographs of Manhattan, New York City in the 2000s; added Category:Black and white photographs of New York City in the 2000s Tag: HotCat[edit]

Could you be patient? I'm going to get to creating those categories soon. Commons does not need another NYC category with 1000 images in it. -- DanielPenfield (talk) 04:06, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. But there was no NYC in the 2000s at all so the parent was needed anyways. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 04:08, 15 June 2019 (UTC)