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Advice please[edit]

Hi, on 20th Sept you deleted a category called "Rivers in Derbyshire" noting that the name should be rivers of Derbyshire. I guess you wouldnt know that the links were broken from the english wikipedia due to this deletion. I was wondering why commons does not use redirects after a deletion to stop this happening? Victuallers (talk) 16:58, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

I have no idea. RlevseTalk 10:50, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Boyce statue[edit]

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-Jappalang (talk) 01:01, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Whatever. I don't have time or energy to argue about it. RlevseTalk 03:03, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Speedy Delete request[edit]

Hi, R-

I've tagged File:Sixth Floor Museum Logo.svg as a copyvio on Feb. 8 and no one has commented since, including the original uploader whom I notified. JGHowes talk - 19:01, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

See this. It's a geo shape. RlevseTalk 22:02, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Learned Hand?[edit]

Since you are an admin, I assume you know what you are doing so, just for my own edification: what does File:View of Woolworth Building fixed.jpg have to do with Learned Hand? - Jmabel ! talk 05:05, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

That's where his office was. RlevseTalk 12:08, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
If that's the connection, and you think it's worth a category, wouldn't you do well to mention that in the description as well? Because otherwise the connection is very unclear. (FWIW, on a building this large with hundreds of offices, I'd probably not add a category for one of doubtless numerous famous people who've worked there. Think what we'd end up with for the Brill Building!) - Jmabel ! talk 15:32, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Do whatever you want, I really don't care. RlevseTalk 22:48, 15 March 2009 (UTC)


Hey dear, I need File:BLP Barnstar.jpg deleted please. I uploaded it and then realized it was the wrong format, needed a .png, so the .jpg needs to be nuked, pretty please :) Thanks! ArielGold 02:53, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Done luv! RlevseTalk 09:45, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

File:Leon W Johnson MoH.jpg[edit]

That pic is from I had originally uploaded it to the English wikipedia without a source because at the time I was a noob. I'll update the source on the file.--Nobunaga24 (talk) 02:17, 10 April 2009 (UTC)


Hi. Glad to see this worked-out. You did see that Rocket did most of the heavy lifting, right? I dropped a note on his talk page when things got sticky. I also spent the last twenty minutes figuring out what he did. I think. Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:27, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Hehe. Thanks to both of you. RlevseTalk 20:15, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


I checked w:en:Special:Contributions/Abroomhe. He logged in for one day only in 2006, he edited only one article, w:en:HMS Endurance (1967), and uploaded only this image. Sv1xv (talk) 20:51, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: PDFnet[edit]

PDFnet is an online(?) newspaper that its founder, Tommy Hansen, created on the basis of "no copyrights".[1] There are some questions that need to be asked of them:

  1. who uploads the pictures?
  2. who verifies the pictures are not copyrighted?
  3. by copyrights, do they mean with respect to only local laws?

The first and second are most important. Jappalang (talk) 02:50, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: source for File:Rapspresser.jpg and File:Sort sol pdfnet2.jpg on PDFnet. No, as I tryed to explain under Permission with the text "Picture was uploaded in February 2006. Could not find the picture on in april 2009." then I'm not able to find a direct link to the pictures on pdfnet today. The images may have been on pdfnet in february 2006 but deleted since.
I hoped that you could find somthing in the archives somewhere on the web or help to judge if we should trust that the upload was ok in 2006.
Nillerdk has answered on my talkpage that he he found the direct link to the second, and asked the owner of if he can tell us where the first is. Sadly I believe the link is wrong. --MGA73 (talk) 06:14, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
I tried again with another browser ... and it works from here!? ( According to this link, Tommy Hansen, the owner of the site, is the photographer. So in this case there is hardly any doubt. I will notice you when Tommy Hansen replies. Nillerdk (talk) 06:50, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
PLease ask Tommy the three questions asked on my talk page by Jappalang. I've tagged the one with the birds in it as PDR. RlevseTalk 09:54, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
I PRD'd the rape seed one (with some help from a duplicate at, but think you need to reconsider your PRD for the bird one. (see below) The source directs to a different photo than the one on commons. The source's photo is PD, but the one hosted on Commons is still unclear. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 10:48, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
I found a source for the actual photo on Commons and redid the PD review (I hope you don't mind). Rambo's Revenge (talk) 10:57, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm very sorry to have confused two completely different photos (of the same subject though). Now I have found the right photo at, but the author information is not clear. Anyway I think the site is trustworthy, it requires following terms for upload ( My translation from Danish: 1. Photo must be created by uploader or uploader must have aquired copyright in another legal way. 2. Uploader releases any juridical claim of copyright on the photo which will be in public domain afterwards. 3. Photographer will be attributed on PDFnet and on Wikimedia Commons. 4 and 5: technical aspects of upload and quality. Anyway, we might want to have the license cleared on site-basis and have the permission archived in the OTRS system. Nillerdk (talk) 12:02, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Tnx everyone for the help. I found and added source for all the other files we had on dawiki claiming to be from pdfnet but I could not find these two. Now they are found :-) Hope the three questions above will also be cleared. --MGA73 (talk) 14:22, 29 April 2009 (UTC)


I uploaded the back side on May 3rd. See File:Hejaz revenues cover-1921-back.png The field "other version" contains a link to the back side. Sv1xv (talk) 03:44, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

thanks. RlevseTalk 09:46, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Commons talk:PD files/reviewers[edit]

Hey there. Do you think you can update Commons talk:PD files/reviewers? I saw a couple of images I did a detailed review on for FAC, and I figured I might as well update the PD-confirmedness of them. NuclearWarfare (talk) 03:46, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Sure. RlevseTalk 10:21, 7 May 2009 (UTC)


Hey, can you give me rollback? Thanks, --UserB (talk) 18:14, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

✓  Done . --Kanonkas // talk // e-mail // 18:15, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for giving me a whole minute to take care of this. RlevseTalk 18:20, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Scouting Portal[edit]

Thanks so much for letting me know abut the photo of the Boy Scout being used for the Scouting Portal for June. Thanks again. WayneRay (talk) 20:35, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

new user page[edit]

Hi. You been watching? See your user page; colors I just made up; changeable, of course. Woof, Jack Merridew 14:18, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I like it. Do something similar on en wiki but keep the colors the same or almost the same as they are there now. Put Dog under the "you might be a wikiholic..." section. RlevseTalk 20:17, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Great; I added a similar look here. nb: User talk:Rlevse/header should probably have the green/gold changed — I'll be back to it. I'm thinking the en:wp page will keep the boxes on the right; this is changeable by simply transcluding the subpages differently. Cheers, Jack Merridew 03:30, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
OK, we'll see how new colors look. RlevseTalk 11:27, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Help in renaming image[edit]

I incorrectly named File:Carlson MoH USMC-C-Guadalcanal-38.jpg

It should be File:Carlson_decoration_USMC-C-Guadalcanal-38.jpg

Would you please assist in renaming? Thanks. ERcheck (talk) 15:04, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

✓  Done . Added the rename template. Best regards, --Kanonkas // talk // CCD // 15:08, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Uploaded under new name, with PD Review tag. RlevseTalk 16:04, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Archives for Commons talk:PD files?[edit]

Should we start setting up archives of this talk page (it is more than 90kB now)? If so, should we use a bot? Some of the threads pertain more to the policies/guidelines of Commons:PD files, while others are our discussions on whether the reviewed files are indeed PD. It might be clearer and more helpful to set up two archives and manually archive closed threads. Thoughts? Jappalang (talk) 09:30, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I've been thinking on those same lines, two main types of threads there. I like the idea of two archives. I'll do it or you can. Also, what to do with SMS Zenta1.jpg? RlevseTalk 20:13, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Regarding File:SMS Zenta1.jpg, I would tag it with {{Anonymous-EU}} and keep it. Sv1xv (talk) 20:28, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Done in about 45 seconds. RlevseTalk 21:48, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

RfA Thanks[edit]

Thank you for supporting me in my RfA which just closed as successful. I really appreciate the trust that the Commons community has placed in me and look forward to expanding my contributions to Commons. Thanks again. --Captain-tucker (talk) 13:47, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Follow up from En-Wiki ANI[edit]

Hi. :) Thanks much for your assistance with the RetlawSnellac matter at ANI ([2]). I'm just following up with you here to let you know that I have launched a deletion request for the latest batch, Commons:Deletion requests/File:Azerbaijan Navy.jpg. I'm having surgery next week and will almost certainly not be around to discuss it, but I'm not really the one who is needed to follow up anyway. I'll let the ANI poster know what I've done and if clarification is requested perhaps he can assist. If it's not inappropriate, could I ask you to keep an eye on that one to be sure that it is closed in a timely manner? I know that deletion debates on Commons can become backlogged. Some of these are blatant copyvios, but I did not tag them for speedy as I felt that their evidence was better in aggregate.

Meanwhile, a number of the images by RetlawSnellac, now indefinitely blocked as a sock on En-Wiki, have been tagged for "no permission", but I only tagged those which I personally found duplicated on the web. These tags expire on August 15th, if I'm doing my math correctly. There are several images that are not tagged in his gallery. Should I open a deletion debate on these as well, or can they be speedily deleted if he does not verify the ones that are tagged? If he does not verify, should he be blocked as an impersonator? Can I leave this on your lap, or should I open a discussion at the Commons AN? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:30, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

A discussion at AN might be good. One thing I'm thinking here is that if this user is claiming to be a particular person, and the person they are claiming to be are denying it's them, that's a blockable matter, as impersonation. And once that's established, any file that they are claiming to be able to grant permission for is suspect, and if not otherwise available, subject to deletion. ++Lar: t/c 14:17, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
I suggest you take Lar's course of action. Can you post diffs here about the impersonation? RlevseTalk 20:40, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Well, the impersonation is simply in (if it's true) that he would have deliberately registered an account under a photographer's name, RetlawSnellac (<>), to facilitate using that individual's images. I wish that there were a means of contacting the photographer through flickr shy of registering for a flickr account. I'm not that familiar with flickr, and I can't find one. I would really like to be able to speak to this gentleman to verify that the person who opened the ANI thread has his facts in order. (One of the reasons I wouldn't personally want to work sock puppetry is because in this kind of situation, AGF clashes. One of these contributors is not on the up-and-up...unless the real photographer RetlawSnellac was playing some kind of joke on the Armenian Wikipedian who opened the ANI thread in the first place.) Of course, I wouldn't mail him now anyway; as I told the ANI complainant, I wouldn't want to be in recovery from my surgery when he tried to respond.
I think what I will do, then, is wait until the 15th, when the deadline for verifying permission is past, and list the matter at the administrator's noticeboard. If our user RetlawSnellac is impersonating this flickr photographer, a block seems imperative. It's one thing to use somebody else's name; it's another thing to use their name and upload their photographs claiming that they're your own. I would imagine that any block would need to be worded diplomatically, because if somebody's having a joke on RetlawSnellac the photographer who really does have a Commons account, he mightn't find it funny.
As for the other fellow, he's just a garden variety copyright offender, so far as I can see. If the ANI complainant is right, he may have been an early sock created to upload images illegally to Commons that the sockmaster could then use on Wikipedia. But as far as Commons is concerned, I would imagine he would be treated however garden variety copyright offenders are treated. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:02, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Having written all that, I just found his address on flickr--at the bottom of the page I linked to! He's at waltercallens [at] Would either of you like to contact him to verify if he is this photographer? If he didn't respond to me within a few days, my e-mailing him wouldn't be a help. Still, if neither of you wants to communicate with him, I'll write him and ask him to communicate with OTRS. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:05, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Since you're most familiar with this, it's best if you write him. Have him write OTRS if he's not the wiki user and also email me at my wiki address so I can go to OTRS and handle the ticket. I'll need the ticket ID or subject line. I have OTRS too. I'll send you my email addy. RlevseTalk 21:11, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Roger. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:21, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Note also that in extremis I could contact him, I have a Flickr account already, and using FlickrMail ensures that we are talking to the person that controls the Flickr account. However I am pretty busy/scatterbrained so may not be the best choice to lead the effort. ++Lar: t/c 21:39, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

←Well, this is kind of bold for me, so I hope it's not forbidden and is an okay thing to do, but I decided that rather than asking him to write a different address and cc somebody else, it would be easiest to contact him directly from OTRS. I did so under Ticket:2009081310062628. I'll be around for a few more days to see if he responds, but I'd be grateful if either or both of you would watch it. I intend to assign it to you, Rlevse, if he doesn't reply before I'm out of commission, but I'm a bit scatterbrained at this point myself and might forget when D-Day draws nigh. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:22, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

I remembered. :) It should be in your box now, Rlevse. I'm not sure how long I'm going to be out after this surgery. My experience with surgeons has suggested that they usually vastly overestimate recovery time. I've been told two weeks before I'll be up for "desk work", but if I'm gone a full week I'll be surprised. (I will, however, try to stay gone whilst the narcotics are really heavy. :) I don't want to permanently protect AIV or something of that sort.) In any event, when I get back on, I'll put this at AN if there has been no response. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 10:50, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Sounds good, and get well soon! RlevseTalk 20:06, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for your nomination. Kanonkas // talk // e-mail // 17:48, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

No problem, and congrats! RlevseTalk 21:39, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Can you make the change?[edit]

There was no opposition, and in fact a consensus at Talk:Main Page#Today in images.

Could you make the change? The simple suggestion at the end of the discussion would probably be best. Thanks. Evrik (talk) 19:33, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm confused what code needs to get pasted where? RlevseTalk 01:32, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Public domain review[edit]

Hello Rlevse, are there any automated tools available for the PD backlog? Something like the Flickr review tool. Thanks, –blurpeace (talk) 11:41, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Not at the moment but one could be written by someone with the knowledge. The backlog usually isn't a problem but then Dcoetzee loaded almost 1000 images into the cat and they are of the type that are not easy to determine. If you have a specific image you want reviewed, post at Commons talk:PD files or on one of the reviewer's talk pages. RlevseTalk 12:32, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Picture Verification[edit]

Hi there. Would you have time to please follow up and verifiy this picture at wikimedia-commons? I received the email permission from the owner of the picture with his statement of permission, and forwarded it to today, 25th September 2009. Thank you. Amsaim (talk) 21:17, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Done. RlevseTalk 23:24, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks very much for the swift assistance :).
Could it be that the {OTRS received} tag still needs to be added to the picture, because when I uploaded it, I added the {OTRS pending} tag on the picture. As a result, when you click on the picture (without being logged into wikipedia), the picture wont show in the description page, and the OTRS pending sign is still visible on the description page. Would highly appreciate it if you could look into this. Thank you. Amsaim (talk) 09:03, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
I can see it without being logged in just fine. Could be your cache. I've seen this happen before and never figured out why. RlevseTalk 12:35, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
it's not the cache, as I've tried it on different pcs that had never gone to the page before. could be the {OTRS pending} tag I added to the picture during the upload, because the message I get when going to the picture page while not logged into wiki, is this:
Note to OTRS volunteers: Please use {OTRS received|id=xxxxxx} once the ticket has been identified, or if the email contains sufficient confirmation of the validity of the license, please replace this template with {PermissionOTRS|id=xxxxxx}
try logging out of wiki, clearing your cache, and then go the page unlogged. you'll see the tag there then, plus the picture doesn't even show. btw, I uploaded a new version of the picture (reduced in size) before the verification was completed. could that be the reason? Amsaim (talk) 13:53, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
I really don't know. Try Rjd0600. RlevseTalk 16:19, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
I just realized that the issue occurs only in wikipedia, not in wikimedia-commons. the otrs-pending tag is still active on the wikipedia picture page (only seen when youre not logged in wikipedia, and have cache cleared). Amsaim (talk) 17:25, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


You reviewed this file but it was deleted anyway. Did you notice? --MGA73 (talk) 21:03, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

A version on dewiki is still "online" de:Datei:Johann Nikolaus von Dreyse.jpg. --MGA73 (talk) 21:05, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
No I didn't, I have been swampped with RL and arbcom work. Thanks. I've restored and contacted the deleting admin. RlevseTalk 23:13, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree that the photograph is undoubtedly PD. (The photographer could have lived up to another 72 years and still be expired copyright, if it was taken in the year of death). I'd point out that file didn't meet the PD guidelines - no source, date and author info was given on the page, which is the major reason I didn't probe more deeply before deleting. I'd suggest you contact Martin H., to find out why it was tagged nsd in the first place. Don't object to restoration - can make mistakes after all...--Nilfanion (talk) 00:05, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Commons:Language policy[edit]

Hi, in an effort to move the Commons:Language policy closer to completion, I have been editing it and cleaning it up for the last few days. I have tried to make the page as neutral and consistent as possible with the relevant policy and guidleine pages that it cross references.

I would appreciate it, as someone who has discussed some of these policies in the past, if you could look at Commons talk:Language policy and contribute your thoughts. This is the version that exists as I am writing it and I am encouraging everyone to consider the "static" page until everything gets sorted out.

Many thanks. Evrik (talk) 17:00, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Wow, looks good to me. RlevseTalk 20:42, 9 October 2009 (UTC)


What have I done to hinder Commons? --Herby talk thyme 08:27, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

By attempting to hold up someone who would only benefit us greatly. There isn't one single blemish of any kind on his record on any wiki and we always need more admins. He is highly respected on en wiki. If he had no admin experience at all I could maybe see your point, but he has lots of it. RlevseTalk 10:59, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
I have no doubt he is highly accomplished on en wp. Commons is not en wp. Fortunately I am entitled to my opinion. I did assume you ignored 20+K contributions of mine here plus around 20K admin actions in favour of judging me on one vote and comment. Good to know I was right and will bear that in mind for the future. --Herby talk thyme 11:36, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Commons is a special place. I haven't evaluated this candidate seriously, so I don't know if their level of contributions would lead one to conclude that they've been around long enough to get how things work here, but I see several other folk have, and have decided he hasn't. Yet. Rather than sparring with Herby, who has done a lot to make Commons better, I think maybe you should consider encouraging your candidate to spend more time getting to know the place first. Just a suggestion. Because sparring isn't good. ++Lar: t/c 13:44, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Herby--I know far more about you that one vote and comment and for you to make that comment is highly presumptuous and even silly. Lar, more people than Herby have done things to help commons, including you and I. Somehave opposed, but more have supported. See if I ever nominate anyone here again. RlevseTalk 16:26, 16 December 2009 (UTC)