User talk:Rob984

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Orthographic projections[edit]

Hello, I notice you have produced a number of orthographic projection locator maps. I'm curious why you choose to use the lighter grey, dark borders colour scheme, rather than the conventions used at the English Wikipedia: Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps/Conventions/Orthographic maps? Also if you remove borders of dispute territories then I may revert if there are no other improvements. Showing disputed territories with a dashed border seems like the most neutral way in my opinion. De facto borders represent the reality of the world as it is. Kosovo, regardless of the politics, functions as an independent country. Even in the case of military occupations such as Northern Cyprus and Moroccan Western Sahara, we should still present the reality I think.
Thanks for your contributions. Rob984 (talk) 11:03, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello, I produce those maps thanks to Gringer's perlshaper script. I thought than Gringer had modified his script according to the conventions. It would be good that you talk to him about this matter if the colors are not right, as he's the maintainer of this script.
Now, borders. I've been redoing a lot of orthographic maps to show up South Sudan borders because I was asked to. Recently, AcidSnow asked me to remove Somaliland borders (more talkings here). Before I accepted the job, I've asked other wikipedians to know which borders to show/not to show. Sémhur recommended me to trust the UN to say whether 'this is a country' or 'this ain't'.
Let's skip to 'what do we do now': I wouldn't really mind if you revert every orthographic maps I've been updating so far (my little heart would instantly break, but that's no big deal). The only problem would be the disappearance of South Sudan, which definitely 'is' a country. One thing is for sure: I won't work on those maps anymore, I'm sick of them. --Flappiefh (talk) 11:33, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
I'm not going to do that. Most of the files you have produced are much better quality and include the South Sudan border which is more important. There needs to be wider consensus on that issue I think. Thanks, Rob984 (talk) 22:29, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
I agree about the need of a wider consensus. And I'm thinking, we might use this occasion to spread the word through all the Wiki graphics labs in the world once a decision is taken. --Flappiefh (talk) 17:53, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Schengen Area[edit]



Could you please edit this map so that colour-blind readers are not confused and wonder whether Turkey and Russia are part of the Schengen Area?

As it is, I don't believe this map complies with en:WP:Accessibility#Colour because colours and contrast are so close.

Thank you for this much needed improvement. --Azurfrog (talk) 08:23, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Same message on User talk:Mattflaschen as he last edited this map. --Azurfrog (talk) 08:27, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi Azurfrog,
Let me know if this version is better: File:Map of the Schengen Area.svg
Rob984 (talk) 11:51, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Way better! Thanks a lot! --Azurfrog (talk) 13:39, 2 September 2015 (UTC)--Azurfrog (talk) 13:39, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
Ceuta and Melilla
The card is inaccurate, the spanish enclaves ceuta and melilla ar missing and the canarian islands too. --2A02:8109:9A40:1778:F990:5F36:CD48:F693 12:42, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Ceuta and Melilla are too small to be visible. Exaggerating them is silly. Since they are part of Spain it would be like enlarging Heligoland. Azores are also part of the Schengen Area, so I will consider expanding the map south and west, but a footnote might be more appropriate. Rob984 (talk) 19:43, 6 November 2015 (UTC)


Hi: You have requested a move of the file File:KRWg+mr.svg. Unfortunately its not possible. please follow the instructions on the image page. Thanks -- DerFussi 06:36, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Luxembourg ID card files[edit]

Hello :) ! You recently warned me because of the 2 files of a specimen Luxembourg national ID card. Just to inform you that this file exists by thousands of copy on the Internet images and was initially distributed by the Luxembourg city website, so I don't think there is a copyright violation. (+ as I told you before , this is a specimen card ! :) ) Gregori Gregori-luxair (talk) 20:13, 3 November 2015 (UTC)


Hello. Please also mark (green colour) the UK in your image of File:EU-Gibraltar.svg - Gibraltar as overseas territory of United Kingdom. Subtropical-man (talk) 21:26, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Map of Ukraine[edit]

Hi! I'd like to ask you why you marked Crimea as 'disputed territory' on the map of Ukraine. I suppose that correct way would be 'Territory occupied by Russia'. --Shmyg (talk) 16:15, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

It is disputed between Ukraine and Russia since Russia also claims it. Most states have no position in regards to either claim and there has been no UN resolution openly condemning "Russian occupation". Rob984 (talk) 22:49, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Identify documentation requirements in the EEA[edit]

In Italy national Identity cards are not compulsory for citizens aged 15 or over. Could you please amend the colour of Italy in your map from pink to yellow? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saxkite (talk • contribs)

Okay thanks, I will do as soon as I can. I don't have Inkscape right now so it will have to wait until the weekend when I have time to install it. Rob984 (talk) 22:55, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

File:UTC hue4map X region Africa.png needs improvement[edit]

Hi, thanks for your edits to this. However, is it possible to create an the same one to Africa. This file (File:UTC hue4map X region Africa.png) is outdated and Egypt is currently implementing DST next month and the current map doesn't fit very well.

Time zones in Africa include:

1) Cape Verde Time (UTC-1) - put in orange

Countries: Cape Verde only

2) Greenwich Mean Time (UTC) - put in light blue

Countries: Burkina Faso, Cote d'Ivoire, the Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Liberia, Mali, Mauritania, São Tomé and Príncipe, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Togo and Western Sahara

3) Western European Time / Greenwich Mean Time (UTC) Western European Summer Time (UTC+1) - put in dark blue

Countries: Morocco only

4) Central European Time / West Africa Time (UTC+1) - put in light red

Countries: Algeria, Angola, Benin, Chad, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Western D.R. Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Niger, Nigeria, Republic of the Congo, Tunisia

5) West Africa Time (UTC+1) West Africa Summer Time (UTC+2) (for Namibia only) - put in dark red

Countries: Namibia

6) Eastern European Time / Central Africa Time / South Africa Standard Time (UTC+2) - put in yellow

Countries: Burundi, Botswana, Eastern D.R. Congo, Libya, Malawi, Mozambique, Rwanda, South Africa, Swaziland, Zambia and Zimbabwe

7) Eastern European Time (UTC+2) Eastern European Summer Time (UTC+3) - put in golden

Countries: Egypt only

8) Eastern Africa Time (UTC+3) - put in green

Countries: Comoros, Djibouti, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Kenya, Madagascar, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Tanzania and Uganda

9) Mauritius Time / Seychelles Time (UTC+4) - put in purple

Countries: Mauritius and Seychelles only

Is there any suggestion to make the map of time zones in Africa and make it the similar one to European one? Since you have removed the non-European countries on the Europe time zones map, is it possible to make an African one and place it to the homepage? Thanks --cyrfaw (talk) 15:03, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm currently under development of the African map time zone. I will try to upload it when its finished and you're welcome to change any mistakes. ---cyrfaw (talk) 15:34, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
I can't edit files at the moment because my normal laptop is getting repaired (I'm using an old MacBook so I don't have either MS Paint or Inkscape for making a bitmap or vector). But yes, it shouldn't be too difficult to create a bitmap version. If nothing more, just recolour File:UTC hue4map X region Africa.png as you want it using MS Paint.
I suggest for the new file, you also don't colour European or Asian countries.
Regards, Rob984 (talk) 15:49, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your time, I have completed and uploaded the file right here, but the problem is that D.R. Congo (East and West) needs to be separated with UTC+1 and UTC+2. Any questions? --cyrfaw (talk) 16:01, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Council of Europe map[edit]

Hi, I noticed you recently uploaded File:Council of Europe (orthographic projection).svg. I just wanted to note that you entirely omitted the Sakhalin Oblast of Russia. You also left Kosovo grey while colouring all of the other breakaway states green. Either leave all of them grey or leave all of them green. You also omitted Transnistria and Nagorno-Karabakh which are also two breakaway states of Council of Europe members. Northern Cyprus also has strange darker disputed borders that differ from the rest, why is that? I wanted to also ask you to return to our discussion on Time of Europe as I wanted to get your response on the issues I pointed out with you map of Europe. --Turnless (talk) 06:40, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

@Turnless Kosovo isn't quite the same as the other, unrecognised, breakaway states. It is seen as a potential member state for example, see But yes, it is misleading colouring those breakaway states. I'll sort it at some point. Rob984 (talk) 17:38, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Time zones of Europe (Crimea disputed).svg[edit]

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