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Wil je eens zien of dit correct is? Anders hoor ik het graag. Lotje (talk) 05:22, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Sorry Rudolphous, wrong user talk page. Face-smile.svg Lotje (talk) 14:45, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Geen probleem. Rudolphous (talk) 10:25, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Foto's met dezelfde cameralocaties[edit]

Dag Rudolphous, ik zag dat je bot recentelijk een paar foto's aan de categorie Mathieu de Layensplein (Leuven) heeft toegevoegd. Bij in ieder geval 4 foto's zijn de cameralocaties exact hetzelfde. Twee foto's zijn in februari 2013 genomen en twee in april 2018. Ze zijn of niet relevant voor het plein zoals bijvoorbeeld deze foto of ze zijn niet op het plein genomen bijvoorbeeld deze foto die eerder het station laat zien. De bot heeft zijn werk wel goed gedaan, maar de coördinaten bij de foto's zijn fout. Kan ik dit het beste beschouwen als problemen die kunnen voorkomen en handmatig in de goede categorie gezet moeten worden? Zoja, "weet" de bot dat hij deze foto's al heeft gehad en niet na de correctie alsnog weer in de verkeerde categorie stopt? Groeten, Wouter (talk) 20:57, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Hoi Wouter, De gps locaties op de foto's zijn inderdaad incorrect. Deze heb ik verwijderd en de foto's heb ik gecorrigeerd. Hierdoor kan het sowieso niet meer fout gaan. Verder "onthoud" de bot dit doordat ik hem alleen laat draaien op bepaalde (zeer volle) categorien. Mvg, Rudolphous (talk) 03:38, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Bad categorization[edit]

Stop the bot! It does not correctly categorize files! --Микола Василечко (talk) 16:47, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Can you explain? The following was the correct place. [1]. Rudolphous (talk) 16:54, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
File:Замок (руїни) (мур.), Чорнокозинці.jpg - this and others — not Ternopil Oblast!!! This is — Khmelnytsky Oblast! And also not categorization in topic categories. --Микола Василечко (talk) 16:59, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Oke, the bot is stopped and I will dive into this issue. Rudolphous (talk) 17:04, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
According to Open Street Maps the bot categorized this to Zbruchanske because of this result [2]. Rudolphous (talk) 17:09, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Categorized all the pictures of the castle now in Category:Chornokozintsi castle. Rudolphous (talk) 17:20, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
I checked also my reverts, nobody reverted except you for this castle and two other pictures with the correct place. Rudolphous (talk) 17:33, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. Feel free to make the changes. Rudolphous (talk) 18:50, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Diergaarde Blijdorp en de wijk Blijdorp[edit]

Hoi Rudolphous, ik zag dat je een aantal afbeeldingen uit de wijk Blijdorp in de categorie van de Diergaarde Blijdorp heb ondergebracht, maar beide zijn niet hetzelfde, en kunnen wellicht beter gescheiden blijven. Groet, Mdd (talk) 13:47, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Dit is inderdaad niet de bedoeling. Ik heb drie foto's gecorrigeerd. Rudolphous (talk) 20:04, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Mayes County[edit]

Hi Rudolphous, some of your bot's edits like this one and that one deleted the county information. Can you please correct this? --LamBoet (talk) 08:24, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

This is corrected now. Thanks for your message. Rudolphous (talk) 18:46, 28 September 2018 (UTC)


Hi! In this edit, the bot inserted a space in between the {s of a template, breaking it. I have fixed it there, but maybe it happened in other places as well during that bot run? It would be a good idea to check I think. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:07, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, fixed the problem. Searched also for similar cases and fixed them as well. Rudolphous (talk) 20:34, 1 October 2018 (UTC)


@Rudolphous:, Meneerke bloem was so kind as to go through some files, you might wish to take them off the category now. Face-smile.svg Lotje (talk) 13:23, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! Rudolphous (talk)

non-Lepidoptera of Worcestershire‎[edit]

Hi Rudolphous, it seems like your bot mis-categorized a few like this one yesterday, can you please check? Thanks! --LamBoet (talk) 20:52, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Fixed the problem. Thanks for your message and categorization help! Rudolphous (talk) 05:37, 11 October 2018 (UTC)


Hi Rudolphous, your bot categorized File:Gunfight Spot (220373993).jpeg as Aix-en-Provence, but there is no indication in the source that this photo might be from there. Have you more information? --Bjs (talk) 12:02, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

uups. I found now the link to the map, according to which it is Cabriès near Aix-en-Provence. --Bjs (talk) 12:10, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
No problem. Rudolphous (talk) 20:07, 12 October 2018 (UTC)


Hi Rudolphous. I created and used the template:wdbox redirect, for template:wikidata infobox. Could you inform your bot about that?

Thank you in advance. --FocalPoint (talk) 15:04, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Sure, will add this, Regards Rudolphous (talk) 15:07, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Category:Devonshire Parish, Bermuda?[edit]

Are you sure the pictures of the caves are in Devonshire Parish. The may be in Hamilton Parish, and the Dockyards are in Sandys Parish as is Cambridge Beaches Resort & Spa. --Traveler100 (talk) 18:16, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello Traveler100, according to google maps this is right. But to make it easy: I moved one picture to Crystal Cave and the others to Caves of Bermuda. Changes also the Dockyards. Thanks, Rudolphous (talk) 19:21, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Birds in zoos (in the UK)[edit]

Hi Rudolphous - captive birds in zoos are in a country, but not native, so are not of a country (just the same as e.g. File:Barack Obama Westminster Hall (2) May 2011.png does not mean that Barack Obama can be added to Category:People of the United Kingdom - he is in, but not of, the UK). Therefore, categories like "Category:Marmaronetta of the United Kingdom" which cover species only found in captivity in the UK, should not be created. Instead, please ensure that such photos are placed in categories of the form "Category:Genus species (captive)" or "Category:Genus species in zoos". Thanks! - MPF (talk) 01:23, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Deleted around 8 categories. Thanks! Kind Regards, Rudolphous (talk) 05:12, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
Excellent, thanks! - MPF (talk) 17:24, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata Infobox[edit]


Please, could You correct the year of birth: 1949, not 1946. Here is the source, the artist's website and his biography:
Thank You.

Artur Andrzej (talk) 08:50, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Changed, thanks! Rudolphous (talk) 17:47, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

deltemplate peoplebyname[edit]

Please only apply this if both the given name AND the surname are available from Wikidata. This is not always the case. See Category:Joakim_Lindengren for a recent example.

Best Wishes S a g a C i t y (talk) 09:06, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

The category Birds should be empty.[edit]

Every bird image should rather be categorized into its own species category.

F (talk) 21:01, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Yes, will do that after uploading. Rudolphous (talk) 21:01, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
Need a couple of days to categorize everything. Rudolphous (talk) 23:42, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
Most of it is done now. Rudolphous (talk) 21:12, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Falsche Kategorien vom Bot bei Pfrondorf (Tübingen)[edit]

Hallo Rudolphous, ich weiss nicht warum dein Bot so viele panoramio-bilder von 500px unter der Category:Pfrondorf (Tübingen) falsch einsortiert hat. Pfrondorf ist nur ein kleines Dorf, nur ein Ortsteil von Tübingen. Ich habe nun zumindest die Fehler in Bezug auf das Fliessgewässer Steinlach und die Ortschaft Bebenhausen repariert. Bitte nochmal die Botaufträge überprüfen. --Vux (talk) 21:18, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Oke, danke für deine Nachricht. Rudolphous (talk) 21:21, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

False coordinates[edit]

Hi Rudolphous, many photos from external projects (as 500px) have false, fictional coordinates. Automatical detailed categorization be street is a bit problematic in such cases. Possibly, the bot should detect some symptoms of implausible coordinates, e.g. identical coordinates of a set of photos etc. In case of 500px, i noticed even sets with quite identical latitude (e.g. 50.086005267836) but various longitudes – all nonsense and random numbers. Many uploaders at external projects (500px, Flickr, Panoramio) use coordinates only very roughly, as a global definition point of the city, not to identify the exact location of the camera. --ŠJů (talk) 02:37, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

I saw you corrected two pictures categorized to a street in Prague by RudolphousBot. And removed a couple of wrong gps coordinates of pictures that where categorized to Prague by someone else. Thanks for this. Automatic geocoding of pictures in general is a bit problematic. Since 99,9% of the categories are right, at least most of the pictures can be found now. I will think about a way to skip too precise coordinates the next time I do geocoding. Rudolphous (talk) 18:36, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

IMO 9126900[edit]

  • Hi, I can't see det:

IMO number : 9126900
Name of ship : WILSON BREST (since 01/05/2002)
Call Sign : 9HSV4
MMSI : 249377000
Gross tonnage : 2446 (during 1995)
DWT : 3712
Type of ship : General Cargo Ship (during 1995)
Builder : Slovenske Lodenice
Year of build : 1995
Flag : Malta Civil Ensign of Malta.svg (during 1995)
Port of registry : Valletta
Status of ship : In Service/Commission (during 09/1995)
Registered owner : WILSON SHIPOWNING AS Care of Wilson EuroCarriers AS , Bradbenken 1, 5003 Bergen, Norway (during 02/2004)

Please correct det and write wikidata template always below the categories, thanks,--PjotrMahh1 (talk) 12:16, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

The Wikidata Infobox we always write above the categories. Not sure what you mean. Rudolphous (talk) 21:10, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
  • There was a computer or website error on the page Category:Wilson Brest (s....). This page is ok (in Ordnung) today and now, thank you for fast response,--PjotrMahh1 (talk) 07:26, 16 December 2018 (UTC)


Hello. Help improvements for en:Maureen Wroblewitz. 07:29, 16 December 2018 (UTC) Example: JK Labajo into Juan Karlos Labajo

You can make the edits yourself. Regards, Rudolphous (talk) 07:31, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Charadriiformes of France[edit]

Hello, Rudolphous. Why did you do this? This category seems adequate to contain that one, as well as the others that are currently inside it. Christian Ferrer (talk) 19:05, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Correct, reverted it. Rudolphous (talk) 19:25, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Birthdate missing for Zlil Sela[edit]

Hi! Can you help me with your source for the birthdate of mathematician W:Zlil Sela? Your infobox - added by bot - quotes an ID of Q207244, but I don't know how to use that to find the source of the wikidata included in the infobox. And the English Wikipedia doesn't have his birthdate at all. Thanks! Yahya Abdal-Aziz (talk) 12:22, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello Yahya Abdal-Aziz. The entry can be found here. The birthday overthere was added in 2014 by this edit. Maybe because on that date multple wikipedia's existed with his brithdate. Seems it started with the German Wikipedia in 2009 with this edit by Claude J who is still active. Kind regards, Rudolphous (talk) 13:22, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

File:Krankentäger suchen die Umgebung des forts Thiaumont nach Verwundeten ab.jpg[edit]

Please assist in renaming this file. Eingangskontrolle (talk) 23:08, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Lemur catta[edit]

Hi there. I was wondering why you uploaded so many similar images of lemur catta? It makes it very difficult for users to find the best images. Charles (talk) 18:01, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

I thought these pictures where a win for this project. BTW: many others did upload files from the same source, for example here or here. I probably uploaded a minority of the pictures in this category. I'm happy to delete some if you nominate them tough. Or maybe you have a proposal how to categorize them further Rudolphous (talk) 20:11, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for replying, but I cannot see how this is a 'win'. A dump of dozens of images onto Commons without selection and editing is not at all helpful. Responsible editors select and upload only the most valuable, most interesting or highest quality images. There are, as you point out, other people who also spam too many images! Charles (talk) 12:05, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Boerderij De Bonte Koe Sassenheim[edit]

Hoi Rudolphous, Ik zie naast de foto van de boerderij ook een kleurenfoto. Die hoort niet bij De Bonte Koe, maar bij huize Wiltrijk, Hoofdstraat 55 te Sassenheim. De Bonte Koe was destijds van mijn grootvader. Vriendelijke groet, A. van Went —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 16:37, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Hartelijk dank voor uw bericht, ik heb e.a. aangepast. Rudolphous (talk) 18:23, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Peter Trimmin photos[edit]

Hi Rudolphous! Thanks for recategorizing these files into the "Category:Photographs of *** by Peter Trimmin". But not all of them are photographs: File:Forest How Squirrels (8042953618) - video.webm, File:Feeding 'Belinda' (15263809674).webm (enjoy the cuteness ;) -- Meisam (talk) 23:37, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Cute indeed :-) Corrected it. Thanks! Rudolphous (talk) 16:42, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Two Westchester County, New York sites[edit]

The coordinates for the White Plains TransCenter is wrong. I tried to correct them (41°02'02.0"N 73°46'25.0"W), but instead I ended up eliminating the coordinates feature from the Wikidata infobox, and I don't know how to get it back. Can you restore it with the correct coordinates? Also can you add a Wikidata infobox for Hawthorne (Metro-North station)? ----DanTD (talk) 14:32, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Corrected the gps and added the infobox + some other infooxes of NYC metro's. Rudolphous (talk) 15:25, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for those too. ----DanTD (talk) 16:40, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Rijksmonument categorie zonder link met Wikidata[edit]

Hi Rudolphous, alles goed? Ik heb op een lijstje gemaakt van categorieën van Rijksmonumenten die nog niet aan Wikidata hangen. Daarbij kom ik Category:Oudebrugsteeg 7, Amsterdam tegen, is dat niet hetzelfde gebouw als Category:Accijnshuis (Amsterdam)? Als je het Rijksmonument nummer weet dan kan je gemakkelijk zoeken op Wikidata. Multichill (talk) 20:02, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Hallo Multichill, alles prima hoor. Met jou? Handig tooltje zeg! Volgens mij heb je gelijk en is dit hetzelfde gebouw. groeten, Rudolphous (talk) 04:51, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Category:Jan van Goyenkade[edit]

Hello.To illustrate use {{Disambig}}.Thank you ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 10:52, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! Rudolphous (talk) 20:12, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Infobox Category:Apelstein Nr. 02 und 47[edit]

Hallo Rudolphus, der Apelstein Nr. 2 hat zwei verschiedene Standorte und auch IDs vom Landesamt für Denkmalpflege: in Leipzig - Liebertwolkwitz 09259764 (

und in Landkreis Leipzig - Güldengossa 09299392 (

Es stehen nämlich an beiden Orten ein Apelstein Nr.2 (der in Liebertwolkwitz ist scheinbar der alte).

Die Bilder in der Kategorie Apelstein Nr.2 ( sind alle von dem in Güldengossa. Es müsste meiner Meinung nach also auch die Infobox auf den Stein in Güldengossa hinweisen, oder?

Beim Apelstein Nr. 47 stimmt in der Infobox die Ortsangabe nicht - es ist nicht der Landkreis Bautzen, sondern Landkreis Leipzig.

Canon55D (talk) 19:41, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Category:Nature of Sandridge[edit]

Hi, I just noticed that you moved a lot of the photos from this category into its subcategories, relating to Heartwood Forest, however, a lot of the photos were not from Heartwood Forest but from other areas in the parish of Sandridge. I'm slowly checking through the photos I took and changing the categories where necessary, so it's up to you if you want to let me fix this or do it yourself (I'm happy to but it could take some time!). Thanks. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:48, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

I'm not sure which photo's you have checked and the next 2-3 weeks I'm very busy. If you would like to do it then be my guest. Rudolphous (talk) 04:59, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
No problem! :-) AnemoneProjectors (talk) 06:36, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Reverted edit[edit]

With this edit you reverted a comment I made in a discussion with User:Multichill. It was, I think, a polite and relevant note on a slightly arcane issue that Multichill can ignore or respond to as he feels fit. I am totally confused. Why? Aymatth2 (talk) 23:44, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Looks like a button triggered this revert by accident. Sorry for that. Regards Rudolphous (talk) 03:05, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
O.k., thanks. I was mystified. Aymatth2 (talk) 12:10, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Category:Euptychia westwoodii[edit]

Hi. I think you created or moved this category. It should be Category:Euptychia westwoodi. Are you OK is if move it and revert your edits on the images in the category? Thanks, Charles (talk) 11:06, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

No problem. Rudolphous (talk) 04:26, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikidata Infobox deployment[edit]

Quarry is currently very slow, so I haven't been able to get the list of new categories for Pi bot to add the Wikidata Infobox to for the last fortnight. If there's anything you can do to add them using your bot, please do so. :-) Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:30, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Oke, will try to add some. Rudolphous (talk) 04:26, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

frogs are amphibians[edit]

Hi - you added one of my frog images to a reptile category! Can you check it was only the one image please. Charles (talk) 09:54, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Yes, this should be the only one. Rudolphous (talk) 12:55, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Categorization mistakes from your bot[edit]

Hi Rudolphous, your bot seems to mistakenly think that Plumbago flowers are Hesperiidae butterflies. It also tends to over-categorize in the "family in location" categories. I have seen several instances of each of these two errors. Can you look into this? Thanks --LamBoet (talk) 17:19, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello Lamboet, thanks for your message. I check this. Rudolphous (talk) 17:35, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Not caterpillars[edit]

Hi Rudolphous, this and the other ~10 similar photos don't look like caterpillars, can you please not put them in Category:Lepidoptera of Haryana again? I guess we should rename the files. --LamBoet (talk) 06:21, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi Lamboet, the name was indeed confusing. I renamed them and recategorized them back. Rudolphous (talk) 06:27, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks! --LamBoet (talk) 06:28, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Ciconiiformes categorization[edit]

The only family in Ciconiiformes is Ciconiidae (storks), but this bot is categorizing everything from cormorants, darters, and frigatebirds (Suliformes) to herons (Pelecaniformes) to penguins (Sphenisciformes) to New World vultures (sometimes Cathartiformes, currently Accipitriformes on Wikimedia Commons) to flamingos (Phoenicopteriformes) and grebes (Podicipediformes) in that order, some as recently as a couple weeks ago. At least Suliformes, Pelecaniformes, and (more distantly) Sphenisciformes are relatively closely related to storks, but the other birds being miscategorized aren't remotely closely related. If you could stop the bot from doing this in the future (so it doesn't lead to more categories like e.g. Ciconiiformes of Colombia, which until a few minutes ago contained 20 photos, none of which were Ciconiiformes), that would be great - thanks! Spizaetus (talk) 03:13, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello Spizaetus, my bot takes the information from wikipedia, but apparently there are errors, see there ordo (Han-ay) of [3]. I'll shall check your recatorizations and fix wikipedia for this. Rudolphous (talk) 03:50, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
I fixed around 300 errors on ceb wiki. Kind regards, Rudolphous (talk) 18:47, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
It seems it comes from this source. Rudolphous (talk) 18:53, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing those! The bird taxonomy of that 2011 Catalogue of Life checklist is extremely outdated and inaccurate - the families it lists in Ciconiiformes are currently scattered across 13 different orders, many of which aren't at all closely related to each other. (There are many other issues with that checklist, but the outsized Ciconiiformes is probably the most egregious.) For a modern classification of bird orders and families, see the IOC checklist.
Relatedly, I just noticed the bot has begun categorizing photos of Phalacrocoracidae, Fregatidae, etc. in various subcategories of the category "Pelecaniformes by country". Phalacrocoracidae, Anhingidae, Sulidae, Fregatidae, and Phaethontidae were all formerly included in Pelecaniformes, but they were removed from Pelecaniformes several years ago (at the same time that Ardeidae, Threskiornithidae, etc. were transferred from Ciconiiformes into Pelecaniformes). Phalacrocoracidae, Anhingidae, Sulidae, and Fregatidae are now in the order Suliformes, while Phaethontidae is now in its own order Phaethontiformes.
For reference, in case the bot starts categorizing these based on other outdated sources, other families that have moved between orders in the past several decades (with their current order in parentheses) include: Mesitornithidae (Mesitornithiformes), Otididae (Otidiformes), Turnicidae (Charadriiformes), Eurypygidae (Eurypygiformes), Rhynochetidae (Eurypygiformes), Cariamidae (Cariamiformes), Musophagidae (Musophagiformes), Opisthocomidae (Opisthocomiformes), Pteroclidae (Pterocliformes), Leptosomidae (Leptosomiformes), Bucorvidae (Bucerotiformes), Bucerotidae (Bucerotiformes), Upupidae (Bucerotiformes), Phoeniculidae (Bucerotiformes), Sagittariidae (Accipitriformes), Pandionidae (Accipitriformes), Accipitridae (Accipitriformes), Galbulidae (Piciformes), Bucconidae (Piciformes).
Best, Spizaetus (talk) 06:07, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Allan tram model[edit]

About this very interesting photo you uploaded, any idea about the copyright staus of the two inset photos? -- Tuválkin 02:11, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Good question, sorry I don't know the answer. I can understand if you nominate it for deletion. Rudolphous (talk) 04:04, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Overcat on dating photos?[edit]

Your 'bot is adding "1961 in Amsterdam" et al to a load of Dutch photographs by some commercial photographers

[4] [5] [6] I've noted this on Wim van Rossem, also Willem van de Poll, both of whom already have a fairly good "photographer by location by year" structure.

Yet for some photographers (who don't yet have such a structure) you seem to be 'bot adding them, then manually removing them? [7]

Shouldn't this (if anything) be the other way round? We don't need the first, because they're already in a clearly-implied subcat of "Amsterdam by year". Yet for the photographers who aren't structured like that, we could actually benefit (it's easier to identify the intersections by querying the categories than by parsing the free-text metadata).

I'm never normally too fussed about OVERCAT, but this is one where we do have a robust structure and the assumed cats are (for once) reliably implicit. Andy Dingley (talk) 18:33, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Good point, I already for some overcats but apparently this is missed. Rudolphous (talk) 18:46, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

2007 in Gouda[edit]

Dag Rudolphous, ik zag dat je bot de categorie "2007 in Gouda" had toegevoegd aan Postzegel 1931 goudse glazen.jpg. Omdat naar mijn mening die categorie totaal niet relevant is heb ik hem verwijderd, maar je bot heeft die weer toegevoegd. Eerder zou "1931 in Gouda" relevant zijn. Groeten, Wouter (talk) 08:08, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Oke, bedankt voor je bericht - ik heb 1931 toegevoegd. Rudolphous (talk) 08:24, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
De bot blijft ijverig doorgaan en heeft de "2007 in Gouda" weer toegevoegd. Wouter (talk) 14:25, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Oke, de bot is nu met een lange run bezig. Dan zal ik het definitief oplossen. Rudolphous (talk) 15:43, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Hallo Rudolphous, ook ik loop tegen dit probleem aan met "2018 in Amsterdam" toegevoegd aan een serie foto's in Laarbeek (Brabant) . Zie Kun je ook hiernaar kijken ?? Btw Is dit de juiste manier om te reageren ?? Bedankt . WoodenSpoon (talk) 12:52, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Hallo Woodenspoon, Dit is de juiste manier om te reageren. Gezien deze foto dacht ik de deze hele categorie in Amsterdam was. Ik zal de foto's nalopen. Mvg Rudolphous (talk) 18:56, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Bird taxonomy and categorization[edit]

Just a quick reminder, since I just stumbled across a photo of a saltator you put in Category:Cardinalidae of Panama (despite saltators being thraupids) and a photo of a euphonia you put in Category:Thraupidae of Panama (despite euphonias being fringillids) - please follow up-to-date taxonomic references (like the IOC checklist) when classifying bird photos. Thanks! Spizaetus (talk) 18:34, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello Spizaetus, For these two I consulated the commons wikimedia pages, see [8] and [9]. Thanks for the references. Rudolphous (talk) 18:38, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi Rudolphous - thanks for mentioning the source! I'll go through and update families on the commons wikimedia pages to follow the current IOC classification. Best, Spizaetus (talk) 18:42, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Relatedly, I just noticed that your bot incorrectly categorized hundreds of photos of passeroid oscines about a month ago. The contents of various 9-primaried oscine families (especially Thraupidae, Emberizidae, and Cardinalidae, but also Fringillidae, Parulidae, etc. to a lesser extent) have been extensively shaken up, switched around, moved to newly-created families, etc. over the past couple decades, but the bot's using the old taxonomy. (This includes creating multiple "Category:Emberizidae in country" categories for countries in which no members of Emberizidae occur, among many other things.) Spizaetus (talk) 05:38, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Currently I am traveling, but can probably correct this later today. Rudolphous (talk) 06:33, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Seems that the taxonomy of a lot of Wikipedia's are incorrect/outdated (even the English one), for example: Category:Gubernatrix cristata:

Do you know how I can search a bird in the ? Or where I can find a list of all birds with their correct orders and families according to the latest insights? If I have a good list I can make a list of outdated taxonomies on commons and update them. Rudolphous (talk) 12:19, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

I think I found the answer in the excel sheets on that website. Rudolphous (talk) 12:39, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
Here is the list of names [10]. Later this week I will scan categories for outdated family names Rudolphous (talk) 22:38, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
Scanned a few categories and made some updates, for example [11]. Will do more later. I see also that some name of categories are not up to date with Is this of any interest? For example Category:Luscinia phoenicuroides, Category:Cyornis pallipes, Category:Anthus rufulus. Is this correct [12] ? Rudolphous (talk) 22:34, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

'bot overcatting and edit-warring[edit]

File:Een man (Farrar) en een vrouw (Yvonne) met een hond op het balkon van een hote, Bestanddeelnr 189-0729.jpg

They're already in Photographs by Willem van de Poll in Scheveningen (1933); adding 1933 in The Hague is already implicit, and "The Hague" is both too blunt geographically and it's already overful as a category. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:15, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello Andy, The problem is Scheveningen vs The Hague. Since there are only a few pictures in the above cat my plan was to fix it after the botrun. Thanks for pointing out. I stopped the bot, removed the overcats and will add a more complete overcat check. Rudolphous (talk) 10:55, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
I couldn't understand how it was even choosing them for "The Hague"? If it understands that Scheveningen is in The Hague, then it must have looked at the Scheveningen cats? Andy Dingley (talk) 13:09, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

... per year[edit]

Dear Rudolphous, Could you tell me the advantages of having 21 times a category like [[Category:Hans Ree in 19XX]]? Formerly, when looking for a suitable picture of Hans Ree from the 140 images of this person in Commons, I could just take a brief glance at 1 page showing all images. As from today I need to open 21 categories, seven of them containing 1 (one) image. If a timeline is needed, just address it like Category:Hans Ree|1982, so the images will be sorted by year. If we really need categories like [[Category:Hans Ree in 1978]] (containing one image) can't we just have it both ways (Category:Hans Ree and Category:Hans Ree in 1978? (I know you didn't start this series, but you are quite active in this kind of categorisation.) Vysotsky (talk) 20:48, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

This is quiet a common pattern, see for example Category:Garry Kasparov, Category:Viktor Korchnoi, Category:Anatoly Karpov by year, Category:Jan Timman and Category:Max Euwe, Category:J. H. Donner. Since there where already year categories for Hans van Ree, see [16] I categorized the remaining pictures. Rudolphous (talk) 21:06, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Understand. But clever people shouldn't extend a foolish "common pattern". Splitting up a category with less than 200 files needs a better argument. Vysotsky (talk) 21:14, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Oke, agree :-) Rudolphous (talk) 21:14, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

File:Amsterdam library - children's section (2660735777).jpg[edit]

Hi Rudolphous, due to the location, this is hardly covered by FoP of The Netherlands. One might discuss whether it's to be considered as a copyrighted work. Also, File:Cloud Gate Chicago (Explore) (4865734246).jpg will surely has to go with the next DR for images of this installation, as not covered by FoP-US. --Túrelio (talk) 08:51, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello talk:Túrelio, The first pictures is made in a public library. There are more similar pictures on commons for example [17], [18] and [19]. Of the 2nd one as well [20]. Not 100% sure if these two pictures are a problem. If you think so, then it's fine to me If you file a deletion request. Rudolphous (talk) 09:00, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
The library organizes sometimes photo events, see for example [21]. Rudolphous (talk) 09:06, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Year xxxx in Rotterdam[edit]

Hi, Thank you for adding category's like Category:1970 in Rotterdam to pages. But I have a suggestion to improve this: When adding category's like Category:1970 in Rotterdam to pages, can you please run a check if the page isn't already located in a subcategory (something like performing an exclusion like -deepcategory) of the category? This would take away the need for other users to manually revert a lot of your bot edits. TIA. --ErickAgain 12:42, 9 October 2019 (UTC).

Hi ErickAgian, good idea. BTW I just removed all overcats in Rotterdam by year categories. Rudolphous (talk) 14:08, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
Great! Thank you--ErickAgain 13:31, 10 October 2019 (UTC).

Mattox Georgian Homestead images[edit]

Hi Rudolphous, why did you move File:Mattox Georgian Homestead (9707104113).jpg and a number of images from the same set/Flickr-account to Cat.Unknown? (Unknown is actually a license-problem cat usually leading to speedy deletion) --Túrelio (talk) 12:30, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Ah I see. I recategorized them to a more precise tag. Rudolphous (talk) 12:34, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
Ok. That saves them from getting speedied. :-) --Túrelio (talk) 12:37, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

A Coot is an identified bird[edit]

I just wonder why you moved my image "sothoene.jpg" from "birds" to "unidentified birds"? It's definitely a coot, so it is identified. I have several more images of the bird, and I can assure you - it is a coot! What is the problem?
999Vic999 (talk) 16:39, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Birds is very general category. Normally they go from birds - unidentified birds -> more precise categories. Rudolphous (talk) 16:42, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
What do you mean? Should the image be placed in a subcategory specifying what group the bird belongs to?
999Vic999 (talk) 16:46, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
Yes. If you know the precise category that would help. But if not, other people will probably categorize the image further. Rudolphous (talk) 16:49, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Category:September 2011 in Amsterdam additions[edit]

If you are going to add Category:September 2011 in Amsterdam, I think it makes sense to remove Category:2011 in Amsterdam as a subcategory of the same one. I'm actually categorizing Category:September 2011 in the Netherlands. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:45, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Yes, am doing that now. Will be done in a few minutes. Rudolphous (talk) 05:46, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
Done, and I categorized also the other months. Rudolphous (talk) 07:15, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
That's fine but I don't think File:Johan Conrad Greive jr (1837-1891), Afb 010097011587.jpg, File:Evert Maaskamp, Afb 010097011040.jpg or File:Evert Maaskamp, Afb 010097011041.jpg are actually photographs and thus belonging in Netherlands photograph cats. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:10, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Category:Images from Wiki takes Haarlem en Category:Netherlands photographs taken on 2010-09-25[edit]

Hoi Rudolphous, ik weet niet of ik een fan ben van categorieën zoals Category:Netherlands photographs taken on 2010-09-25, dit hoort volgens mij in gestructureerde data, maar tot die tijd: We weten dat we op die dag foto's zijn gaan maken in Haarlem. Deze zoekopdracht zou leeg moeten zijn. Ik zie daar best wel een aantal voorbeelden tussen waarbij de upload datum erin is terechtgekomen. Enig idee hoe dit op te lossen? Multichill (talk) 14:29, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Hoi Multichill, Ik heb het opgelost. Alleen de foto's van Michiel1972 stonden op de 26e ipv de 25e. Ik kan me vaag herinneren dat hij dat ook in het IRC kanaal had gemeld na het uploaden. Bij de anderen foto's ontbrak simpelweg de datum categorie. Omzetten naar gestructureerde data zou inderdaad handig zijn. Rudolphous (talk) 14:56, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
Dank je. Je mist er nog wel een paar van de 27e en de 28e om het zaakje compleet te krijgen. Ik vraag me wel af of dat vaak voorkomt dat we de upload datum erin hebben staan in plaats van de datum dat de foto genomen is. Is natuurlijk te vergelijken met de datum in de exif, maar we hebben ook weer regelmatig gevallen waar de klok van een camera verkeerd stond. Hou jij met dit soort dingen rekening? Ik denk dat het daardoor veel te ingewikkeld wordt. Ik had je al even genoemd. Mijn robot voegt nu de datum toe. Multichill (talk) 15:09, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Ik gebruik zo'n beetje de volgende aanpak:

  • Ik bepaal de exif van een foto en vergelijk de jaren. Als het jaar anders is plaats ik geen datum categorie.
  • Verder sla ik foto's over met:
    • de woorden upload of publicatie bij de datum.
    • de woorden "painting", "reproduction", "gravure", "schilderij", "tekening", "prent", "ontwerp", "stamps", "doorsnede", "geïllustreerd", " studie ", "expansion plan", "uitbreidingsplan", "plattegrond", "bevolkingspiramide", "advertisement", "advertentie".
    • met de extenties, *.ogg *.svg *.wav *.avi *.webm, etc.

Ook heb ik me in het begin geconcentreerd op de recentere foto's (jaartal 2000+, daarna wat lager). En foto's van RCE + persbureau's met betrouwbare jaren. Vaak werk ik categorien door. Als ik de jaar van een categorie weet kan ik dit meegeven aan de bot, waardoor de uitkomst ook dit jaar moet hebben.

Weet jij of er een tag/categorie is om aan te geven dat de datum in de infobox en exif datum afwijkt? Misschien dat dit handig is (ook voor andere bots).

Rudolphous (talk) 15:18, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Lijkt me een goede aanpak!
In Category:Time, date and calendar templates heb ik {{Invalid Exif date}} en {{Wrong date}} gevonden. Wellicht kan je daar wat mee?
Als je toch al de datum aan het toevoegen bent, kan je dat wellicht meteen doen als gestructureerde data? Zie hier hoe het in Python te doen. Multichill (talk) 22:01, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
Bedankt voor het script. Zal de datums later toevoegen, wil eerst nog meer categorieen toevoegen. Misschien kan deze query 0,5M halen. Dat betekent dan tevens dat 1 op de 100 foto's in NL is gemaakt. Ik heb de exif check trouwens aangepast, waardoor deze naar de hele datum kijkt ipv alleen het jaar. Rudolphous (talk) 22:24, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Deze werkwijze zal meestal goed gaan tot dat je in de niet-digitale tijdperk komt, waar de beelden gescand zijn. Ik vul handmatig de periode zo nauwkeurig mogelijk in, maar vaak is dat maar met een schatting van een maand of jaar. Ik pas de opname datum handmatig aan voordat ik ze upload (dit kan ik soms vergeten). Helaas eist mijn PC software dat een volledige datum wordt ingevuld. Als ik inschat dat het in de maand juni is geweest zet ik dan 1 juni neer. (De tijd kan ik op nul zetten en is de tijd van de scan) Na upload haal ik de dag en/of maand weg. Heb je een methode om te bepalen dat beeldmateriaal gescand is? Verder beaam ik dat in de begintijd het kom gebeuren dat de cameratijd/datum verkeerd afgesteld stond. Een keer was er zelf het verkeerd jaar ingesteld.Smiley.toerist (talk) 11:12, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Hallo Smiley.toerist, Detecteren van scanners is denk ik lastig. Sommige photo's hebben het model van de scanner in de exif informatie. Mvg, Rudolphous (talk) 20:36, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Taken on[edit]

Hi, maybe better to improve like this: [22] --Arnd (talk) 16:24, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. For now I prefer slightly more the templates because people can change them more easily. Rudolphous (talk) 20:32, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
For what it's worth, I agree with Arnd. I prefer the use of the template instead of the additional category. — hike395 (talk) 03:53, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
Rudolphous: given that there is no consensus for adding date+location categories to photographs (as opposed to modifying the {{Taken on}} template), could you kindly pause your bot? My watchlist is lighting up with bot edits I don't agree with. — hike395 (talk) 19:16, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
@Hike395: The bot is paused. I missed your earlier message. As earlier said. Templates lock the files up. It's difficult for people to categorize the files further (this is done for example for Germany). Tools like cat-a-lot don't understand the templates - which means all photo's need to be processed one by one. See also this request of Xray where he asked explicitly to use cat=no [23]. Also it's not usable for photo's that are made on country borders (I've seen many pictures in more than one country - for example for mountain views). Rudolphous (talk) 19:51, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
@Hike395: Would like to proceed with the work. I can skip the files where you did a contribution. Does this help? Rudolphous (talk) 07:03, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for pausing. I know you want to quickly start up again, but if you're going to edit thousands of files, doesn't it make sense to have a templates vs. category discussion in a centralized place, like the Commons:Village pump? I'm happy to follow the consensus after discussion. — hike395 (talk) 11:39, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

@Hike395: done. Regards, Rudolphous (talk) 19:32, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for that! (Note that you swapped your advantages, I think, you may wish to fix). — hike395 (talk) 04:40, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

The most interesting idea from the Village Pump discussion (IMO) was the comment from Mike Peel. Mike is a Wikimedia developer, who was saying that dates and locations will be coming to the Structured Data for Commons effort in the next 12 months. I think his hope is that Commons editors and bots will put the metadata into the Structured Data, rather than in templates or categories. If I understand him correctly, he is recommending that you wait in running your bot for 12 months.

Between Mike's recommendation, and the call for a (further?) RfC, you may wish to hold off running your bot. After the discussion, I can now see that using the |location= parameter in the template may not be a good idea. — hike395 (talk) 02:45, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your intervention. Appreciate that. There seems to be a lot of different opinions. To have date + location categories from Wikipedia takes probably also a lot of discussion before this is realized. Rudolphous (talk) 12:06, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi, Rudolphous. It seems that you've started having RudolphousBot categorize photographs into date+country categories. My impression from the disussion at the Village pump was that you needed to get wider input from an RfC to reach consensus around this automatic categorization. Did I miss the RfC? (I usually don't pay attention to Village pump). — hike395 (talk) 23:36, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
Hello Hike395, I think you did not miss an RFC. I did not create one - also not sure on what page it is supposed to be raised and what should be the exact content. I did opt out certain users, skip certain countries (like Germany) and taken on templates. I hoped this was in line with last discussion. The last pictures I processed for Canada did not have a photograph by day category at all so at least the photo's (or group of photo's) can be found by a day category. Rudolphous (talk) 06:42, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
The instructions for Commons RfCs can be found at Commons:RFC --- you edit {{Centralized discussion}} to start a new one. It looks like there are a few discussions every year, with many participants. In the Village Pump discussion, it sounded like other editors thought there should be a wider discussion about automatic categorization. — hike395 (talk) 21:49, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
Hey Hike395, thanks for the link. Until now nobody provided a deletion request for the taken-on-single-day, countries categories or small sub categories (provinces, cities, etc). So apparently the categories are desired. The categories are already used a million times before I started adding pictures to them. That automatic categorization per bot is not desired suddenly is new for me. If people see errors in my categorization - I'm always willing to make things better. If i read Village pump (which started how to handle the taken on template) then I see nobody is in favor for proposal Z. see also [24]. Sometimes I see bots adding date properties to wikidata. Making cats of them in future is probably exact the same principle but with an indirect approach. Except that at the moment I skip certain pictures like maps, paintings, drawings, etc - and check the EXIF date before adding the categories. I don't think categorization should be discussed via an RFC (policy / guideline / license change) - but feel free to raise one if you think there should be one. Kind regards, 08:45, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Overflowing watchlist[edit]

Hello Rudolphous, you are overflowing my watchlist with Category:Rudolphoustodo2. Can't you do without that? --Havang(nl) (talk) 09:54, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Sorry for that. I can try to do without (not easy - and I use the category also for visually checking) or add the category with the a bot account then you can probably ignore it more easily. Rudolphous (talk) 10:08, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
Last week I did most of them without the cat in between. Rudolphous (talk) 18:28, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Dubbele categorieen[edit]

In Category:Photographs taken on 2013-06-27 kom ik beelden tegen die ook in Category:Netherlands photographs taken on 2013-06-27 voor komen. Bovendien komt deze categorie vaak twee keer voor. Voorbeeld: File:13-06-27-rotterdam-by-RalfR-77.jpg. PS.Ik ben nu alle Rotterdamse tramlijnen aan het categoriseren, vandaar dat ik dit soort voorbeelden tegen komt.Smiley.toerist (talk) 09:54, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

En veel lege categorieën vanweg foute templates, zie . --Havang(nl) (talk) 11:47, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
Bedankt voor de melding. Ik zal hier naar kijken. Rudolphous (talk) 12:39, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
De dubbele categorien heb ik inmiddels allemaal verwijderd. Rudolphous (talk) 06:59, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Sorry ...[edit]

Hello! I just reverted your edits at File:Rome (IT), Forum Romanum -- 2013 -- 3358.jpg and others. It's not an improvement and my bot is working with "cat=no". It's easier for me. And it's easier for others, categories can be moved by Cat-a-lot and other tools. --XRay talk 06:06, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Oke, with my edit there was less wiki code. But no problem. Rudolphous (talk) 06:09, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
FYI. Rudolphous (talk) 19:47, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Duitse foto's[edit]

Hoi, ik zag dat je de Nederlandse foto's allemaal op datum hebt gecategoriseerd. Zou je dat ook voor (bijvoorbeeld) de Duitse foto's willen doen? Nederland heeft nu namelijk wel buitenproportioneel veel data-categorieën, in verhouding met andere landen. Groetjes, Jeff5102 (talk) 08:40, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Is goed. Ben nu bezig met Italie, in de loop van de dag zal ik een stuk van Duitsland doen. Het deel wat overblijft zal handmatig gedaan moeten worden. Rudolphous (talk) 08:46, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
Nog een toevoeging: In Nederland zijn er ook veel datecategorien vanwege schenkingen van grote collecties foto's (denk aan Nationaal Archief). Het zou mee niet verbazen als van de 57 miljoen foto's op commons momenteel ruim 1 miljoen foto's uit Nederland komt. In Duitsland zijn er trouwens ook minder data-categorieën omdat er categorien per Duitse provincie zijn gemaakt. Rudolphous (talk) 08:55, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
Vanuit Nederlandse archieven, musea en erfgoeddiensten zijn in Commons meer dan 1,2 miljoen afbeeldingen terecht gekomen: Rijksdienst voor het Cultureel Erfgoed: > 485.000 foto's, Nationaal Archief (o.a. uit de Anefo-collectie): > 415.000 foto's, Naturalis: > 275.000 afbeeldingen, en tientallen andere GLAM-instellingen. Vysotsky (talk) 09:22, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
Bedankt voor deze aanvulling. Rudolphous (talk) 18:41, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
Over de Duitse foto's. Alle subcategorien maken het toch ietwat tricky. Ik wacht hier liever nog even mee. Rudolphous (talk) 20:21, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
Ik snap het probleem. Ik weet dat er veel foto's zijn van het Bundesarchiv, maar met al die subcategorieën wordt het inderdaad lastig. Blijf in ieder geval doorgaan met je goede werken! Groetjes,Jeff5102 (talk) 21:40, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Vatican City[edit]

Hi! It's Vatican City, not Italy. [25] ;-) --XRay talk 11:39, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Oke, corrected some other as well. Luckily these are a few. Will do a final check when Italy is "done". Rudolphous (talk) 12:01, 22 November 2019 (UTC)


Please be more careful. See this: [26] It's now overcat, there is already "Münster (Westfalen) photographs taken ...". It's a lot of unnecessary work to revert these edits. --XRay talk 14:02, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello XRay, Thanks for your message. Luckily I did not do a lot of Germany photographs yet because of exactly this problem. I see there are many cases like this (3811 hits - done by others), see [27]. I can help to clean up later today. Rudolphous (talk) 14:19, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
There are some people spending a lot of work creating categories like these. Always a lot of work ... I don't know why they do it. Your bot shouldn't set the categories if there is already one with "taken on" or if these categories set by a template. --XRay talk 14:31, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
This query works better [28]. I think I fixed all cases with overcats by categories (only a few were wrong - and most of them not done by my bot). Will check for taken on problems later this evening. Rudolphous (talk) 15:58, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

2019 in the Netherlands category[edit]

The 2019 in the Netherlands category should not be removed unless there is another 2019 local category. Big cities such as Rotterdam and Amsterdam have 2019 in XXXX categories. I now have created 'Category:2019 in Gelderland', 'Category:2019 in South Holland' and 'Category:2011 in South Holland'. In principle everyplace should at least fall under a province category or other local year category. I had hoped the use the 2019 in the Netherlands category to look for images wich have to subcategorised. This is much more usefull than day categories. Now I would have to look at every day category in the Netherlands to look for images needing subcategorisation on Year/sublocation. Most images of for example; landscape it really doesnot matter wich specific day the picture is taken. Only for specific events is the date important.

I can repair the damage for the files I follow, but how about the other files? There is a lot of work to be done in subcategorisation. For example look at Category:North Holland by year. The big cities in North Holland (Amsterdam, Haarlem, etc) have often year categories) South Holland has to done, the same as other provinces.

In principle at least one year category should always be availabe if you are researching by year. On almost never research for a specific date and even the one trys the narrow it down to a specific location.Smiley.toerist (talk) 00:00, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello Smiley.toerist, I did put the files back that I moved yesterday evening. Rudolphous (talk) 05:12, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Category:Haarlem by year[edit]

Hoi, Je kan wat met sjablonen. Waarom zijn de jaartallen 1990 t/m 1999 en 2019 verkeerd gesorteerd?Smiley.toerist (talk) 12:42, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Ik snap niet helemaal wat je bedoelt. Heb je een linkje waar dit op is te zien? (mogelijk is dit ook backoffice vertraging) Rudolphous (talk) 12:45, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
Ik snap al wat je bedoeld. Even kijken wat daar aan te doen is. Rudolphous (talk) 12:46, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
opgelost. Rudolphous (talk) 12:49, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

OK: Het waren alleen de jaren met sjabloon die anders gesorteerd waren. Nu loopt alles gelijk, met of zonder sjabloon. Verder heb jaar in Noord Holland en jaar in Nederland bij elkaar gezet. In theorie kan later kunnen later alle plaatsen onder provincie gezet worden, maar een dubbele link naar boven zowel naar Nederland en provincie is nuttig. Vreemdelingen weten niet in welke provincie ze een stad kunnen opzoeken. Amsterdam zoeken ze onder Nederland en niet Noord-Holland. Ik heb hetzelfde probleem als ik buitenland plaatsen wil opzoeken in Commons. Ik wil gewoon alle spoorstations van Duitsland zien en niet per regio.Smiley.toerist (talk) 13:01, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Klinkt goed allemaal. Rudolphous (talk) 13:07, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Ik ben begonnen met 'Category:2001 in South Holland' aan te maken, maar ik moet nu weg.Smiley.toerist (talk) 09:19, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Oke, zal kijken of ik ook een aantal foto's of categorien kan vinden. Rudolphous (talk) 09:30, 30 November 2019 (UTC)


Ik heb de jaar categorieën van Nijmegen toegevoegd aan die van Gelderland. Zutphen moet nog een jaar categorieën krijgen en toegevoegd worden aan Gelderland. Zie Category:2015 in Gelderland. Het is nu te mooi weer om te blijven zitten.Smiley.toerist (talk) 11:34, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Mooi, weer een stap verder. Rudolphous (talk) 11:35, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
Category:Zutphen by year is gemaakt. Rudolphous (talk) 12:21, 1 December 2019 (UTC)


Deze jaarcategorieën (bijvoorbeeld Category:2015 in Breda, Netherlands, nu tijdelijk aangepast) zitten nog niet in jaar in the Netherlands of North Brabant. Bij deze laaatste moeten er nog veel categorieën aangemaakt worden.Smiley.toerist (talk) 12:17, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Zojuist doorgevoerd. Rudolphous (talk) 14:55, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Utrecht provincie[edit]

Ik heb de sjabloon Utrechtprovinceyear aangemaakt. Kan je die checken. Straks doe ik die voor Groningen provincie.Smiley.toerist (talk) 18:20, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Ik heb alleen de vlag gewijzigd, de rest klopt volgens mij. Rudolphous (talk) 18:26, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
Ik ben verder gegaan met Zeist waar nog veel jaarcategorieën gemist worden. Ik zit wel even met Woerden, daar is nu maar een jaarcategorie '2018 in Woerden'. Probleem met een Woerden template is dat de gemeente vroeger bij Zuid-Holland was ingedeeld (1814 tot 1989) en daarna bij Utrecht. Kan een sjabloon hiermee rekening houden of moeten er twee varianten aangemaakt worden, of gewoon de provincie niet toevoegen aan de sjabloon?Smiley.toerist (talk) 11:09, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
Voor Zeist heb ik een aantal jaarcategorieën toegevoegd. Over Woerden: technisch moet dit wel kunnen denk. Denk dat we hiervoor zoiets voor nodig hebben. Morgen druk, maar later deze week kan ik hier wel naar kijken. Rudolphous (talk) 21:07, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
Ik heb alvast 'Category:Woerden by year' aangemaakt en diverse jaarcategorieën aangemaakt met willekeurige geselecteerde files. Ook de vlaggen zijn verschillend maar ik denk niet dat wij historische vlaggen gebruiken in de categorieën.Smiley.toerist (talk) 12:01, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
Woerden is klaar. De opsplitsing van de provincie Holland is in 1840 uitgevoerd. Eerder gebruik ik geen categorie South Holland.Smiley.toerist (talk) 12:30, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
Alvast een aantal foto's op jaar ingedeeld. Rudolphous (talk) 08:05, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
Sjabloon voor jaar Overijssel is toegevoegd en ik alvast diverse year in Overijssel aangemaakt. Voorlopig alleen Deventer en Enschede.Smiley.toerist (talk) 10:45, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Category:Trafo - gashuisjes Java-eiland[edit]

In deze categorie heb je alle foto's voorzien van de category:2019 in Amstelveen. Zou je die weer willen verwijderen. Andere heb ik handmatig gecorrigeerd, maar dit is een groep van 23. Alvast bedankt,Ceescamel (talk) 15:55, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

Is goed, gedaan. Rudolphous (talk) 18:17, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

Hoek van Holland[edit]

Ik heb een jaar sjabloon gemaakt voor Hoek van Holland en twee jaar categorieën aangemaakt. Bijzonder is dat Hoek van Holland bij de gemeente Rotterdam is. Het is daarom wel een subcategorie van Rotterdam. Dit is echter ver van het centrum van Rotterdam en er liggen veel gemeentes tussen: Schiedam Vlaardingen etc. Met het havengebied is het wel aaneensluitend. Er zijn echter veel beelden van Hoek van Holland. Daarom wil ik deze plaats toch als aparte plaats in Zuid Holland behandelen net als de Zandmotor. PS: Dank voor het werk met Marken.Smiley.toerist (talk) 11:23, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Ik heb 1905 foto's kunnen koppelen. Via deze link kunnen mogelijk nog meer foto's gevonden worden: link. Rudolphous (talk) 16:18, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

A new work for a your bot[edit]

Hi (sorry for my english), may you use your bot for remove the upper category from a image, as well as File:1829 - Milano - Palazzo Litta - Decorazione facciata - Foto Giovanni Dall'Orto - 15-Sep-2007.jpg? If you seen, this have the {{According to EXIF data}}, and if your bot could replace that template by seeing if the image is already categorized by country, as in this case it is a city of Italy, you could do a lot of dirty work. I am aware that there may be some categorization errors that could give false positives but if you could make a service category for the cases where the bot finds unusual results you could do a lot, what do you think of this idea?--Threecharlie (talk) 00:28, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

I forgot to tell you that I'm already doing a lot of categorization work in this context, look at my contributions, and as with the template, you can't move with the Cat-a-lot if you don't do over-categorizations as the case above.--Threecharlie (talk) 00:32, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
Nice that you help to categorize the photo's of Wikimedia. I'm affraid I cannot help, see also. Rudolphous (talk) 18:36, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi , I've noticed that in the example (Variant A: Use location parameters [29]) you gave in the above mentioned discussion (see also) - the location-category assigned by the bot to the picture is "Germany" (Germany photographs taken on 2011-07-03) whilst the object has nothing in common with location in Germany but is located in the US. I'm not sure whether it was done intentionally - to illustrate disadvantages of the automated categorisation based on the wording from the titles? Shouldn't it be corrected (from Germany to US) or left as it is now - as an illustration? --Oo91 (talk) 21:31, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi Oo91, good one - fixed the location. Rudolphous (talk) 22:58, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Ouder-Amstel en Duivendrecht[edit]

Ik merk dat veel plaatjes van Duivendrecht (vooral het station) onder een 'jaar in Amsterdam' categorie gezet worden. Ik heb nu een paar extra 'jaar in Ouder-Amstel' aangemaakt. Voor de twee spoorongelukken in 1954 en 1956 zit ik over te denken om die uit station Duivendrecht te halen (het station bestond toen niet) en naar een spoorlijn categorie te zetten.Smiley.toerist (talk) 12:32, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Prima. Rudolphous (talk) 17:56, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Category:Germany photographs taken on .....[edit]

Hello Rudolphous, thanks for adding Category:Germany photographs taken on ... to my Files ! Regards --Olga Ernst (talk) 13:01, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

You 're welcome. Rudolphous (talk) 15:05, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Wrong country[edit]

No idea why, but your bot seems to have decided that Washington State is in the United Kingdom. - Jmabel ! talk 15:23, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Yes that was a mistake from my side. Am correcting them now. Rudolphous (talk) 17:04, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Wrong cat[edit]

Hi Rudolphous, i have reverted this edit since the photo was not taken in Russia. Where does it come from? --Arnd (talk) 07:46, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

That was because of the cat "Images from Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 in Russia". I changed this now. Thanks. Rudolphous (talk) 07:53, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

X photographs taken on DD-MM-YYYY[edit]

Goedemiddag. Zou het moeglijk zijn de files die ik heb geupload van de bot task uittezetten? Ik heb alle foto's zelf in die categorieeen gezet, ik do het met alle nieuw foto's die ik upload, en wat overblijft zijn of banners (waar de datum van het maken staat, en niet van het opnemen) of de files met een fout datum (tijd verschil geeft een fout in de datum, of gewoon fout metedata). Kortom, ik zorg zelf dat de files in de goede categorieen binnenkomen, en in de foute categorieen niet. Bij voorbat dank.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:10, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Hallo Ymblanter, ik zie dat je inderdaad al veel categorien plaatst. Ik zal je foto's overslaan en de banner foto's die gecategorieerd zijn terugplaatsen. Rudolphous (talk) 17:44, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
Dank je wel. Ik heb al alles teruggeplaatst die fout stond, dus is niet meer nodig.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:56, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
Goed te lezen. Bedankt! Rudolphous (talk) 17:57, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Dein Bot erzeugt viel Aufwand! :-([edit]

Hallo! Dein Bot erzeugt echt viel Aufwand. Jetzt hat er diese Änderung durchgeführt: [30]. Das ist nur ein Beispiel. Nun ist dort eine Überkategorisierung, der die Datei File:Warendorf, Freckenhorst, Umland -- 2014 -- 8645.jpg bereits in Category:Fotoflug Münsterland 2014-06-01 und damit in Category:North Rhine-Westphalia photographs taken on 2014-06-01 und so in Category:Germany photographs taken on 2014-06-01 ist. Kategorien von Ein-Tages-Events direkt zuzuordnen, ist meiner Meinung nach ein guter Weg und kommt auch relativ oft vor. Die einzelnen Bilder müssen dann nicht mehr den "Taken on"-Kategorien zugeordnet werden. Bitte achte doch mal darauf, dass dein Bot besser arbeitet und nicht so viel Arbeit erzeugt. Und wenn ich schon mal dabei bin, hier hat er auch unsauber gearbeitet: [31]. Die doppelten Kategorien durfte ich auch wieder entfernen. --XRay talk 06:25, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Danke für deine Nachricht. Ich habe einige andere Fotos in Griechenland korrigiert. Ich werde jetzt prüfen, ob es weitere Probleme mit Deutsche foto's gibt. Rudolphous (talk) 08:52, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
Die Griechenland-Bilder hatte ich bereits weitgehend korrigiert, aber danke für die letzten Korrekturen. Mein Bot (für meine Bilder) entfernt automatisch doppelte Kategorien. Für die anderen Aktionen empfehle ich vor dem Setzen einer Kategorie zu prüfen, welche Bilder bereits enthalten sind. Man kann für einen Tag alle Bilder unter "Photographs taken on ..." lesen und weiß, dass diese Bilder nicht mehr zu betrachten sind. Erst dann setzt man Kategorien für den Tag bei den anderen Bildern. Es ist nicht immer einfach, aber es gibt immer wieder ganz wilde Kombinationen. --XRay talk 10:07, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Stop your bot for my files![edit]

Half of the files, that I downloaded, already have a template Taken on. It adds categories X photographs taken on DD-MM-YYYY? Why add a category again? Stop your bot for my files! --Микола Василечко (talk) 08:40, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

I checked all Ukraine pictures, this should be fixed now. Sorry for inconvenience. Rudolphous (talk) 09:05, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
Correction for the bot: if there is a template {{Taken on}}, skip files! More than 3000 of my files have a template. Should I check your bot for 3000 files? --Микола Василечко (talk) 09:17, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
Good proposal will include this. I think you used the template 1370 times and 5043 times not, see: [32] and [33]. All pictures should be fine now. If you want I can maybe include the template in all of your pictures. Rudolphous (talk) 09:30, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
I check all my files. I add categories that I didn't add at the time. Some files are updated - larger images, clarify descriptions. Slowly, but already correctly. If template {{Taken on|time|location=Ukraine}} - yes: I did not take photos outside Ukraine.--Микола Василечко (talk) 10:21, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

File rename[edit]

Hallo Rudolphous, imo deze file zou best hernoemd worden vanwege #2. Thanks. Lotje (talk) 16:21, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Klopt, gedaan. Mvg, Rudolphous (talk) 16:26, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

bug report[edit]

Hi. please check Special:Diff/386227474. Hanooz 18:20, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Will take care of this one. Rudolphous (talk) 18:38, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

categorisation based on incorrect date in file metadata[edit]

Hi, it could be great if the bot could be able to check "bad data" report in files to avoid incorrect categorisation as hereː FileːJammu_unknown.jpg --Oo91 (talk) 20:11, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Good idea, will include this. Rudolphous (talk) 20:51, 10 January 2020 (UTC)


Hi, please be advised of the correct country name: [34]. I have fixed the typo everywhere I could find it in that category tree and related templates, but you may know more places requiring a fix. Regards, Gikü (talk) 15:55, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Oke, thanks! Rudolphous (talk) 15:59, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

wikimedia "Category:Gorakhpur"ː incorrect Wikidata Infobox[edit]

Hi, it seems that "Category:Gorakhpur" was linked to incorrect wikidata itemː village Goraghpur in Hayana instead of city Goraghpur in Uttar Pradesh. This results in links to incorrect articles in Wikipedia and incorrect Wikidata Infobox in this category. I don't know the way to correct it (in Wikidata, but where?, to change manually the links to aticles one by one?). It started probably from this editionː (Adding "Interwiki from wikidata" to get links to Wikipedia articles) ː apparently the "Gorakhpur, Haryana (Q244415)" was added instead of " Gorakhpur (Q5584396) " . It also could happen that the Q244415 item on wikidata at the time of bot's action was linked to the proper Gorakhpur (as visible in the history of edition) and later 'taken' for the "Goraghpur village" and a new one had to be created for the "proper Goraghpur". Link to the disambiguation page (BTW. there is another Goraghpurː in MP). If you can change the wrong "Interwiki from wikidata" - maybe all the necessary corrections could be done automatically? --Oo91 (talk) 14:06, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

@Oo91: (from talk page stalker) It should be sorted out with this edit (and the reverse direction), does that look better now? (If it hasn't changed, you might need to [ purge the category). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 14:56, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
@Mike Peel: now it is OK. Thank you. --Oo91 (talk) 15:05, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Manual categorisation vs Template:Taken on[edit]

Hello, I have noticed that the bot manually categorises images into Category:Country photographs taken on ..., but if you actually take a look at these categories you will see a request to not add them manually, but rather use {{Taken on}}. Is it possible to change the bot to do that? I am currently using User:Gone Postal/takenon.js to do that, but it would be great if the bot would help out rather than create unnecessary work. ℺ Gone Postal ( ) 04:04, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Very nice script - thanks for sharing. The taken on template has two problems. One is the timezone is missing - two is not all people like this template. So I think there's no consensus for this task - but if you can get I'm willing to help ofcourse. Rudolphous (talk) 07:31, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Quality Image Promotion[edit]

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Incorrect date oh photograph taken added to files[edit]

The bot just added the incorrect photograph taken to two of my files File:San Diego Zoo 2003 04.jpg and File:San Diego Zoo 2003 05.jpg These were taken in 2003, uploaded in 2012. --Mjrmtg (talk) 21:26, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Found some others and corrected them. Thanks! Rudolphous (talk) 05:01, 27 January 2020 (UTC)


Er is nog geen jaar categorie voor Almere. Ik heb lukraak bij enkele files 'jjjj in Flevoland' toegevoegd. Tot nu toe zijn er alleen 'jjjj in Lelystad' categorieën onder FLevoland. Oostvlaarderplassen heebn ook files die erbij horen. Ik kan handwerk gaan verrichten, maar het lijkt mij handiger jouw robot het werk te laten doen.Smiley.toerist (talk) 11:03, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Ik heb zo'n 2500 foto's gekoppeld en ook aantal aantal nieuwe aan Lelystad toegevoegd. Rudolphous (talk) 18:14, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
De decade 2010 van Almere heb ik afgehandeld.Smiley.toerist (talk) 21:46, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

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File:سد يوسف بن تاشفين الجاف.jpg[edit]

Hi Rudolphous, I was wondering why RudolphousBot made this edit? As far as I know, Morocco and South Sudan are not the same. Maybe it has something to do with the Category:Barrage Youssef Ibn Tachfin? Thank you for your time. :-) Lotje (talk) 15:13, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

According to the gps location it's South Sudan, see also [35] . Rudolphous (talk) 16:13, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you very much for looking into this. In order to avoid confusion, the Category:Nature of Morocco should be removed I guess. Lotje (talk) 16:35, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Het is een zoekplaatje. Bij nader inzien denk ik toch dat het Marokko moet zijn. Daarom heb ik de eerder geplaatste categorie verwijderd. De tekst heeft het over een Dam in die alleen in dit land is te vinden. Ik dacht eerst dat de x en de y van de gps omgedraaid waren. Helaas klopt dat ook niet, want dan kom ik in Algerije uit. Rudolphous (talk) 18:22, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

File:Online dating (14591726690).jpg[edit]

Hi, Rudolphous, are you sure they are dating online? :-) Lotje (talk) 16:40, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

According to the original source they 're :-) - I did a rename to for clearity. Groeten, Rudolphous (talk) 21:45, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

File:High Angle shoot training-7.jpg[edit]

Hello Rudolphous!
I need your nl-capabilities to check High Angle shoot training-7.jpg and all the other images in Category:Truppenübungsplatz Seetaler Alpe. They are licenced under CC-0 and the source is this nl website, but I cound not find any indication that this image is actually licenced under CC-0. Could you take a look at the images and the website and see if the files might be licenced under CC-0?
--D-Kuru (talk) 23:28, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

I found it on this page: CC-0 looks oke to me. Rudolphous (talk) 06:39, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for your help! With {{Mindef}} there even seems to be a licencetemplate for that --D-Kuru (talk) 09:58, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

File:Israel-05484 - Yigal Alon Museum (34440802721).jpg[edit]

Hello Rudolphous,

Your bot made this edit. I have no idea why. Can you explain. -- Geagea (talk) 00:06, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Answered on the talk page of JuTa. Rudolphous (talk) 06:22, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

File:George H. W. Bush with Michael Jackson.png[edit]

Any copyright issues?. Akhiljaxxn (talk) 17:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Sorry I'm not a copy right expert. You can better try another admin. Rudolphous (talk) 17:19, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Category:Macao photographs taken on ...[edit]

Hi, could you pls. change your bot to create Category:Macau photographs taken on ... instead of Category:Macao photographs taken on ... because there is a Category:Macau while Category:Macao is justa redirect. Thx --JuTa 02:55, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes, no problem. Rudolphous (talk) 05:56, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

The same applies to Category:Timor-Leste and Category:East Timor. Thx. --JuTa 19:35, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

... and for Category:U.S. Virgin Islands and Category:United States Virgin Islands. Thx again. --JuTa 20:03, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Your bot is still creaton Macao things - see Category:Macao photographs taken on 2009-03-01 and Category:Macau photographs taken on 2009-03-01. Please change it. --JuTa 22:42, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

The same applies to Myanmar - see i.e. Category:Myanmar (Burma) photographs taken on 2014-07-22 and Category:Myanmar photographs taken on 2014-07-22. Thx. --JuTa 22:49, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello JuTa, should be fixed now - thanks! Rudolphous (talk) 06:53, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Category:Ireland photographs taken on...[edit]

Hello. A lot of these categories are showing up at Category:Broken category redirects. Is there a way this can be fixed? Thanks. 1989 (talk) 23:17, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I will go through them. Rudolphous (talk) 05:51, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
✓ Done, Cheers! Rudolphous (talk) 19:19, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Time to be more selective?[edit]

Hi Rudolphous - just a thought . . . does Commons really need yet more worthless holiday snaps of street pigeons, tame ducks, and so on, particularly ones with no location information? We already have tens of thousands. Try looking for more unusual rare bird photos to upload! Personally, I don't upload anything now if it doesn't have any location data, as stuff that doesn't might just as well be deleted as useless - out of Commons scope as no educational value. Just thinking out loud ;-) MPF (talk) 11:22, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello MPF, true - I uploaded 500 marvelous ship photographs but among them where some doves. I don't mind deleting them if it does not add value. Rudolphous (talk) 11:33, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! On my contributions list, the ones I just moved from Category:Birds to Category:Feral pigeons :-) MPF (talk) 12:11, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Oke, deleted them. Thanks for all your effort you put in the bird pictures. It becomes a great collection. Rudolphous (talk) 12:16, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Category:Cueva del Gato[edit]

Hello Rudolphous. Something strange happened here. The article in Spanish does exist but somehow commons can't find it. I think it may have something to do with a change I made in without realising it. If you know how to solve it I'd be most grateful. Regards, tyk (talk) 23:38, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

It is solved now. Have a nice day, Rudolphous (talk) 05:54, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
Many thanks. Regards, tyk (talk) 06:34, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Wikidata Infobox Amaro Pargo[edit]

The date of his death is October 14, not October 4: Amaro Rodríguez Felipe. Spanish merchant, moneylender, and corsair (1678-1747).-- 08:48, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Approval for RudolphousBot[edit]

Could you link to where RudolphousBot was approved to add the location inside {{Taken on}}? This is a very large task - I'm getting dozens to hundreds of watchlist items a day from it - and I can't find the discussion. Thanks, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:12, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

I can't provide a link for this. Stopped the bot. You can disable bot from you watchlist if this helps. Rudolphous (talk) 20:20, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm not opposed to that task, but given the scale there should be a BRFA or equivalent community discussion. Cheers, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:22, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


Hoe kan dit? Ik zie nergens iets wat kan wijzen op Kazachstan. --bdijkstra (overleg) 13:32, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

De locatie stond er op een ongebruikelijke manier in verwerkt. Ik heb gekeken naar soortgelijke bot-bewerkingen, maar zie geen andere. Ik zal het script aanpassen om dit locatie-formaat in het vervolg over te slaan. --Rudolphous (talk) 17:39, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Structured data postcards[edit]

I see that the Rudolphousbot is buzy with filling in license data from the file data. For most users this is of little search relevance. Almost by definition all files in the Commons do have to have a good license, otherwise they are deleted. I do add some 'content' structured data files. Is it an idea to let the bot scan all postcards categories and add (P31) (Q192425) to structured data?Smiley.toerist (talk) 08:26, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Hoi Smiley, Ik doe niet zoveel botgewijs met WikiData - ik denk dat je beter iemand anders kan vragen. Rudolphous (talk) 12:45, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
Je bent wel de beheerder van Rudolphousbot, maar goed ik zal de vraag plaatsen in the Village Pump. (Typish voorbeeld van zo een mutatie: automatically adding structured data claims based on file information: date source copyright license) Gezien de hoeveelheid van mutaties moet dit wel een gecoördineerde actie zijn, maar is dit vanuit de Wikidata gemeenschap of de Commons gemeenschap?Smiley.toerist (talk) 09:57, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
Hey Smiley, Deze wijziging wordt niet gedaan door RudolphousBot. Een andere bot voert deze wijzigingen uit, namelijk SchlurcherBot. Mvg, Rudolphous (talk) 09:58, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
Deze bot voort wijzingen uit op Commons, dus vanuit de Commons gemeenschap. Rudolphous (talk) 10:00, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Twee vraagjes[edit]

  • Je foto File:Binnenvaartschip vaart door open brug.jpg kon ik thuisbrengen. Het schip heeft weer een nieuwe naam, maar het ENI nummer blijft altijd hetzelfde (tegenwoordig). Maar waar was die brug, of hoe heet die brug?
  • Er is een nieuwe gebruiker geweest, die nu weer is vertrokken (kennelijk), en die heeft Category:Titanic (ship, 1912) 2x naar een andere directry verplaatst, zonder enig overleg. Ik heb die nieuwe category voorgedragen voor verwijdering, in de gedachte dat de oude situatie weer zou worden hersteld. Ik denk dat ik dat niet juist heb gedaan. Kan je er eens naar kijken? --Stunteltje (talk) 20:33, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
Hallo Stunteltje, het was bij de Tolbrug over de Drecht. Fijn dat je het schip hebt kunnen identificeren. Ik zal naar de category kijken. Rudolphous (talk) 20:38, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
Ik zal ook kijken of ik van die brug nog andere plaatjes van kan vinden. Overigens: ik zag dat je een bestand naar 2011 overhevelde. Het schip is echt pas in 1912 opgeleverd. --Stunteltje (talk) 22:14, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
2011 is inderdaad niet de bedoeling, weet je nog welke bewerking dat was? Ik kan nog wel een keer langs die brug fietsen en foto's maken als je dat leuk vind. Rudolphous (talk) 22:45, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
Het ging om File:Titanic made in Belfast - from the gable of the Pump House which filled and emptied the Dry Dock where Titanic was fitted out. - panoramio.jpg. En het is altijd aardig om foto's te hebben van bruggen in vaarwegen. Als schipper kan je in een twijfelgeval even kijken waar je tegenaan kan varen. Dat haal je qua tekst wel uit de bestanden van Rijkswaterstaat, maar daar staan maar zelden foto's bij. Ze kunnen dan in een eigen category. Nu de foto van het binnenschip nog niet, maar 1 foto en zonder de brug. Maar je ziet al wel het remmingwerk.--Stunteltje (talk) 07:02, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
Hallo Stunteltje, in het aangehaalde voorbeeld zie ik 2012 in 2011 veranderen - dat is correct toch? Ik zal nog een paar foto's maken van de brug - misschien kunnen we dan een artikel maken op de Nederlandse Wikipedia. Rudolphous (talk) 10:25, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
Vandaag nog drie foto's gemaakt Category:Tolbrug Leimuiden. Rudolphous (talk) 15:12, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
Dat is leuk en zo hebben we een beeld bij die brug. Wellicht zit er nog eens een artikeltje in, als er ergens iets over de brug opduikt in de vakbladen. Te weinig en niet E: [36] En neen, 1911 is het jaartal dat de Engelsen gebruiken, het jaar van de tewaterlating. Maar Commons is internationaal, andere taalgebieden gebruiken, net zoals de Nederlandse Wikipedia, vaak ook de datum van oplevering. Daarom gebruiken we in Commons voor alle schepen juist het jaar van oplevering, in dit geval 1912. Ik heb het beschreven in de discussiepagina. --Stunteltje (talk) 19:30, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
Dank voor de link. Aangezien er discussie loopt over de categorie is het denk ik het handigste om dit even af te wachten. Rudolphous (talk) 20:10, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

File:Feeding time (13927438256).jpg[edit]

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GRDN711 (talk) 13:48, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Knuppel in het hoenderhok[edit]

Beste Rudolphous, ik denk er sterk over om ook in Wikipedia Commons maar eens een knuppel in het hoenderhok te gooien. Maar daar toch eerst maar even overleg over op te zetten, want het is goed mogelijk dat ik nogal wat fijnslijpers daarmee tegen de haren instrijk.

Naval ships often have a prefix in their name, as long as they have a militairy commander. E.G.: Hr.Ms. De Ruyter, HMS Endurance, USS Bainbridge, ARA Spiro and so on. Often is the name of the category in Wikimedia Commons followed by their pennant number. No problem at all, when the user can read the article of the ship in their Wikipedia by language. But not specialists, looking for images of the vessel, find more ships with the same name.
My suggestion is to start the name of the category with the pennant number, followed by the name and the year of first commisioning. Only if naval ships don't have a prefix: the name with "ship" and the year of first commisioning between brackets, as all other ships have the year of completion.
Advantage: It places the ship immediately in her time. What not specialist users see in publications or in a harbour is the pennant number, in large characters painted on the ship. Categorising this way can finding images of the ship make easyer.

Zou dat enige kans maken? Zo ja: wat is de beste plaats voor die discussie? --Stunteltje (talk) 09:44, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Hoi Stunteltje. Lastige vraag. Kans maakt het zeker. Hoe je dit het beste er doorheen kan krijgen, kan je beter een andere admin vragen denk. Rudolphous (talk) 06:13, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
Ik heb al even rondgekeken. Ik meen dat het wel een vraag voor de dorpspomp kan zijn. Gevonden bij de help-pagina's voor categorieën. --Stunteltje (talk) 06:53, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Identification of mushroom in File:20171014 Noordwijk - Leeuwenhorstbos - Gewone zwavelkop (Hypholoma fasciculare).jpg[edit]

Hello. The mushroom in this photo is not a Hypholoma fasciculare, but rather an Armillaria. Please see the talk page. Is it OK if I change the category accordingly? Best wishes, Strobilomyces (talk) 16:14, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello again. Also the mushroom of File:20181003 Fungi in Klein Leeuwenhorst - Gewone zwavelkop (Hypholoma fasciculare) v3.jpg is not Hypholoma fasciculare, I think it is Coprinellus micaceus. Please can I change the identification in this case too? Strobilomyces (talk) 18:02, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes, go ahead. Thanks for your message. Rudolphous (talk) 18:52, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

OK, great, I will update the categories and descriptions (not the file names). I have found another similar one, File:20171104 Fungi of Leeuwenhorstbos - Gewone zwavelkop (Hypholoma fasciculare) v2.jpg (please see the talk page). Unless you object, I will change the identification of that one too. Strobilomyces (talk) 19:32, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

No objections. Rudolphous (talk) 05:23, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. Also there are the following files which in every case you categorize as Hypholoma fasciculare, but which in my opinion don't look like that species: File:20141106 038 Lottum Het Schuitwater (15104975674).jpg, File:20141106 037 Lottum Het Schuitwater (15539749417).jpg, File:20021026 Zwart Water Paddestoel 14 (9928856385).jpg, File:20021026 Zwart Water Paddestoel 12 (9929009093).jpg. Please see the respective talk pages. The photographer in these cases was different, but I think you are responsible. Again I propose to change the categories if you don't object. Strobilomyces (talk) 20:16, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Currently I am traveling. I can handle this files later. Rudolphous (talk) 07:23, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
I made the desired changes. Many thanks for your remarks. Rudolphous (talk) 15:11, 31 July 2020 (UTC)