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- Image:G2RMHK.jpg is uncategorized since 27 November 2008. BotMultichillT (talk) 10:14, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
- The image was created resp. modified to illustrate a point on a user's talk page. It's just a rough presentation of the topic, rough enough to be understood in the aforementioned discussion, but not accurate enough to be understood by anybody who does not happen to know that discussion.--Rupert Pupkin (talk) 10:49, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
On this page an IP says that the high-information on the picture must be wrong because Gasherbrum II has to be the highest but on your picture the IV ic higher and VI is higher than the Twins. Is the IP or your picture wrong? ;) --Jodo (talk) 00:05, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- The IP is wrong. It's all a matter of distance and perspective. G II appears lower because it is further away. (see my answer here)--Rupert Pupkin (talk) 14:40, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
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annotated nanga parbat photo
- I derived it from different books:
- "Zum dritten Pol" by Günter Oskar Dyhrenfurth
- "Der nackte Berg. Nanga Parbat - Bruder, Tod und Einsamkeit" by Reinhold Messner
- "Nanga Parbat" by Karl Maria Herrligkoffer
- some web-research was also quite helpful. It's definitely as accurate as possible. cheers--Rupert Pupkin (talk) 13:51, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Ruppert, thank you for your post. Good job with this bigger picture!
I have broadened and checked the Polish versions in the caption of both the files mentioned above.
1. Additionally: In the file File:Hispar_Muztagh_labels.png to Polish and English versions:
1.1. I added important source (of the heights of other peaks than main peaks higher than 6750 m - which are in Jurgalski list), "Swiss Map" of 1990 also known as "1990 Jerzy Wala Map" (of whole Karakorum; see caption or the bibliography in Polish biogram of pl:Jerzy Wala). So check if you could agree (and know this map - for example, Japanese Miyamori map appeared later and is not better).
1.2. I also suggested (and added in parenthesis in the list of glaciers) the second and well known name of Gharesa Glacier (as Trivor Glacier) (BTW, you used this last name in labels to the File:ESC large ISS014 ISS014-E-6851.JPG.) Also please check if you agree :)
2. Other suggestion: Maybe you can also add the sign of the Yazghil Dome (first culmination ca. 1 cm to E from Distaghil Sar E on the image), the peak of much bigger prominency than Distaghil Sar E or Central, climbed in 1980 during the first ascent of the Distaghil Sar E and the day before (see pl:Distaghil Sar, section "Wejscia", the next-to-last sentence). Yazghil Dome (7324) is on Jurgalski list.
4. My other question and soft suggestion is: Do the arrow of the North direction indicate exact direction or is only "at about" (quantitative)? As it is, the declination seems to be as much as 40-45 deg rather than 30 deg.
I think this direction may be/should be indicated as accurate as possible (and may be the cropped image of Distaghil Sar should be "rectified" directly to the North? - to avoid any misunderstandings or mistaken associations of the directions for the readers less experienced with mountains and maps).
- Hi Masterstone, sorry been busy (resp. not busy...) over the weekend. Thank you for comments.
- 1.1. The Wala Map seems to be a well accepted soure especially at en-WP. Unfortunately I don't own it myself. Does it differ from Jurgalski's list?
- 1.2. I think I left the second name out because of the column spacing in the description (I tried different versions...). Anyway, it works with both names now. Do you know which name is more accepted or if one of the names has become outdated? My source was the report of the first ascent of Trivor in Berge der Welt 1960/61 (aka Mountain World) by Wilfrid Noyce. I think he mentioned both names but preferred Gharesa (but the report was written half a century ago...).
- 2. I think I wasn't quite sure about the exact localization of Yazghil Domes. (There are two, aren't there). But I guess I could try and add another triangle. (But maybe that may take some days, at the moment I'm not at that computer that has the .svg-file on its harddisc.
- 3. That's just fine :-)
- 4. I must admit that the North arrow is only "at about" but I think it's quite close. I measured it with google earth. There you can draw lines and google earth tells you the degree. At first sight, Kunyang Glacier seems to be running rather exactly from north to south. So I placed a marker on the summit of Bularung Sar and drew a line down with a degree of 0/360. It crossed the mouth of Kunyang Glacier (where it meets the Hispar) just right from the centre. So I also drew a similar line in the image and moved it parallel to create the north arrow. There might still be some deviation, but I claim that it's less then 5 degrees — provided my method was correct in the first place...
- I also tried to stitch the images of hispar glacier and biafo glacier — File:ESC large ISS014 ISS014-E-6851.JPG, File:ESC large ISS014 ISS014-E-6852.JPG, File:Latok-Ogre-Biafo.JPG (that would actually be File:ESC large ISS014 ISS014-E-6854.JPG, and I just realized that there is ...-E-6853 on the NASA-servers, I'm going to add it to commons, too) — but it was impossible. There seems to be too much distortions. If the images fitted on the one end, they wouldn't on the other end.
- I will try to produce those cropped images with north on top. Should work pretty well for Kunyang Chhish and surrounding summits. But there might be some "aesthetical issues" with the ones that are close to the borders of the picture. There will be blank space and a diagonal border in the picture (like in that one File:Baltoro region from space annotated.png).
- Please add your views. Best regards. -- Rupert Pupkin (talk) 11:27, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
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- Vielen Dank für das Kompliment. Dank dieser Website  war das nicht mehr schwer, sobald ich den ungefähren Aufnahmestandort gefunden hatte... Und den Pelmo hatte ich zum Glück sofort erkannt. Gruß -Rupert Pupkin (talk) 21:37, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
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Do you agree that this is a selfie?
File:Glaciar Perito Moreno Los Glaciares el Parque Nacional Argentina - panoramio (1).jpg? There are plenty of good photos in Category:Perito Moreno Glacier but an editor disagreed that it should be deleted. See Commons:Deletion requests/File:Glaciar Perito Moreno Los Glaciares el Parque Nacional Argentina - panoramio (1).jpg. What do you think? Kalbbes (talk) 21:32, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
- Well, I agree, it was a selfie... And I would have supported the deletion request. But now that the file has been cropped, it might be kept. Regarding the great number of other (probably better) photos in the Category, I wouldn't have made that cropping effort... --Rupert Pupkin (talk) 00:17, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
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Categories for this photo
- [Sorry, I was offline for a while.]
- Well, I'd say the category for the meeting point of those three mountain ranges is category:Confluence of Indus and Gilgit rivers. But one might feel a bit uncomfortable about it, because there are no rivers in the picture...
- Anyway, the creator of that category already added a note, saying "The mountain ranges of the Himalaya, Karakoram, and Hindu Kush come together in Pakistan at the confluence of the Indus River and the Gilgit River."
- And I'd say this category is sufficient, because it is subcat of all those mountain ranges involved.
- best regards--Rupert Pupkin (talk) 11:45, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. I like your suggestion and implemented it. I am thinking of adding an image note explaining that the confluence of Indus and Gilgit rivers is just below the image. Best wishes, Kalbbes (talk) 14:15, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
- I added the image note. Feel free to improve upon it. Kalbbes (talk) 14:24, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
What mountain is this?
- The description says it's Sosbun Brakk. Google image search confirms it... Thanks for pointing at it. That mountain hasn't been covered yet (afaik).--Rupert Pupkin (talk) 22:38, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Great work! I think I've seem a pic of that mountain before, in one of those dumpster mountain categories with the wrong name. Though, as you are aware, I don't have a fine eye for distinguishing mountains in Pakistan.
- On another subject, there are inferences in image descriptions that Biafo Glacier and Hispar Glacier are connected to become one huge glacier. But I haven't found any pics that demonstrate this. Kalbbes (talk) 00:08, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Well, they are connected at the fully glaciated Hispar la (=pass) lying at the very end of the Hispar glacier. From this side the connection is clear. Coming up from the Biafo side, you might not notice the importance of the smaller valley glacier rising towards hispar la when you see the large basins of snow lake in front of you and of Sim gang glacier to your right. But I can't really tell, haven't been there yet...
- There are some satelite images that show the connection:
- File:ESC_large_ISS014_ISS014-E-6852.JPG and
- --Rupert Pupkin (talk) 00:30, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
Have you seen this type of annotation?
- the file history knows the answer :-)
- I've used this a few times, don't know anymore where I had seen it first or if I came up with the idea by myself. It has a weird effect on the thumbnail here... --Rupert Pupkin (talk) 22:52, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
What mountain is this?
I hope I'm not driving you crazy with my Pakistan edits. (As always, feel free to change anything, or let me know and I'll change it and maybe learn something.) I cannot figure out the mountains. Kalbbes (talk) 00:57, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Kalbbes: I've seen this one before, but I can't really tell. If the exif is right, the photographer took this picture 25 minutes later. I think it was taken on the south side of the Hunza River (Nagar side, opposite of Karimabad), otherwise Lughbar Sar wouldn't be visilbe. but I have no clue how far you can get from there within 25 Minutes...
- Another thing. I reworked those Gulmit Tower Cateogries. The filenames weren't right when they said it was Sost. All those pictures must have been taken somewhere between Gulmit and Passu. Best regards--Rupert Pupkin (talk) 22:44, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
Regarding a photo we discussed above ...
- @Kalbbes: I think the confluence of Indus and Gilgit rivers defines that junction point. So I'm fine with the confluence... category. But I have to admit, the reference to the three mountain ranges seems to be quite popular.--Rupert Pupkin (talk) 20:12, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- All the confluences of mountain and river are in the same cat. I just don't know how to word the cat for the mountain junction point.
- Those KKK people are very industrious. After the landslide created the Attabad Lake, they got that highway in there in only a few years, with tunnels even. Pakistan amazes me. They border India, China, Afghanistan, Iran and have a sea boundary with another country, yet they pretty much get along with everyone (except India). A remarkable country! Kalbbes (talk) 23:51, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- I see that naming problem. That's one of the reasons why I would leave it as it is. And the biggest letters on the sign on the right say "Confluence of Indus and Gilgit Rivers".
- Well, I heard the people with the biggest interest in a working Karakoram Highway live north of Khunherab Pass. And they are of course mentioned on the blue sign (CRBC). See for example en:China–Pakistan Economic Corridor (I should work myself in a more detailed way through that topic...) --Rupert Pupkin (talk) 07:45, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
I'll just say that I don't agree. On Wikipedia Passu is described as a village. And there is a village there. When you take away options, categories don't grow. Just about all categories I have formed have been filled largely by other people over time. When the category isn't there, then other editors don't realize the place exists. Then they throw a file into a garbage category, or don't categorize it at all.
- Of course Passu is a village, that's undisputed. If an uploader has a picture of Passu and if he is looking for categories and then finds a category named Passu, I think he'll know that it is about the village. All other Passu-related items have Passu as a part of their names: Passu Glacier, Passu Diar (or Sar) - the mountain in the Batura Muztagh at the end of P. glacier - or Passu Cathedrals aka Passu Cones (actually the south face of a mountain named Tupopdan). However the name of the village is just Passu.
- And in this case, the Category without village already had more entries.
- But I didn't want to argue that much in the first place... I don't object to a rename to Passu village. (I just don't think it's necessary ;-)
- What do you mean with "about the peaks"? Was it about this one? The file name offers a little geographic orientation which I think is reliable. Baroghal = Broghil (there are so many different spellings of different objects in Pakistan...). When the mountain is identified (I'm working on it...), it may be replaced by a more specific cat. --Rupert Pupkin (talk) 20:51, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
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