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Sarang (talk:sarang) is also a user of the German Wikipedia. At the Commons, I mainly try to improve the categorization and to simplify SVG drawings.
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Template talk:Created with Inkscape - Edit request[edit]

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Freigabe der Testversion[edit]

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Coa Illustration Tincture basic Purpure.svg[edit]

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Wrong crossbar angle[edit]

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Gnuplot problems[edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks so much for your kindness and informative discussion regarding my recent creation and implementation of {{By color}}. I really do appreciate it. All the best! Michael Barera (talk) 23:37, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[]

{{Creator}} im Feld "Artist" der {{COAInformation}}[edit]

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Template:Image generation[edit]

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Template:AutVec[edit]

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A kitten for you![edit]

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Thanks for categorizing my pictures from New Zealand! Podzemnik (talk) 18:16, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
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AusGovStat[edit]

SVG maps using data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics

SVG maps using data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics

Hi Sarang,

I've tried to put the AusGovStat files from Category:Valid SVG created with Gnuplot into Category:Valid SVG created with Gnuplot-AusGovStat, which was impossible. May you please help me? Should I copy them into the more specific category?--Gszegosz (talk) 10:19, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[]

Hi @Gszegosz: , thank you for category diffusion. The categorizing into Valid SVG created with Gnuplot occurs in the template {{AustralianBureauStatistics}} where it can be easily changed to another [sub]category. If you need more info, just ask me! -- sarang사랑 11:11, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
At the moment it categorizes now as you want; but the template {{AustralianBureauStatistics}} has not a very good solution. Its displays are somehow fine when used at the source= parameter, but looks bad when used at the description= parameter. It should be solved in another way - it can be done later. -- sarang사랑 11:45, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
A bettter solution is to remove the Gnuplot from the template and set it in the other fields as I did it for an example there. I will become a bot work to do this for the many thousand files affected. I will set up a request. -- sarang사랑 22:02, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

@Perhelion: ich habe das mal gecheckt, es betrifft wohl an die 57000 Dateien die der Überarbeitung bedürfen: Überall müsste einiges geändert, plus das Igen eingebaut werden. Ginge ja gut mit VFC aber bei dieser Menge nicht mehr machbar, da ist ein bot gefragt. Die Anzahl der Fehler erscheint bei jeder Kategorie dieselbe zu sein, dein script zählt nur bis 1000 und hört dann auf. Allzugrosse Dateien sind uncheckbar.
Die Instruktionen für so einen bot kann ich vorbereiten, |Other fields={{Igen|+|244|%|>|s=acm}} etc.
Nach meinen Erfahrungen ist es recht schwierig mit einem bot-Betreiber in Kontakt zu kommen. Ich versuch es mal, und wenn es garnicht geht frage ich dich ob du eine Idee hast. Gruss -- sarang사랑 14:16, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Visio-TD-scenarionewgood.svg u. a.[edit]

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Full stop for other language[edit]

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Was machen wenn zwei Programme verwendet wurden (Igen)[edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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This Special Barnstar is awarded to Sarang by Johannes Kalliauer and Perhelion: Thanks for tagging, categorizing, cleaning and fixing up a huge amount of file descriptions, and thank you for being a very helpful user, thank you for your contribution to the drive! -- 21:35, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Order of tinctures?[edit]

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The "cat" of ACClicense[edit]

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Automatically inserting Igen[edit]

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A kitten for you![edit]

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Hello Sarang, thank you for your brilliant work! I appreciate your support!

Frelsi (talk) 21:40, 11 January 2020 (UTC)


who (or what) is Frelsi ?
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simple svg[edit]

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pfad[edit]

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File:Roof pitch.svg[edit]

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multilang, klone und unterseite[edit]

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File:Zenith-Nadir-Horizon.svg[edit]

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File:Teilchenmodell Gas.svg[edit]

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Template:Image generation in Italian[edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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to the one and only template guru  MaxxL - talk 17:22, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[]

As far as I remember, the square and circle should surround a naked man ??


Template Barnstar[edit]

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For your expertise in SVG-Templates  — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 13:54, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[]


Browser verändert Quelltext beim öffnen&speichern[edit]

Hallo!

Ich bilde mir ein, dass Firefox beim Öffnen und dann speichern (bei gewissen SVGs) einen veränderten SVG-Quelltext speichert, als die auf Commons liegt. Wenn man Ziel speichern unter klickt passiert das nicht. Ich bin mir nicht sicher ob es wirklich Firefox oder doch Google Chrome war bzw. bei welchen SVGs das auftritt. Ich bilde mir ein mit jemanden bereits darüber geredet zu haben und wollte dich fragen ob du weiß welche SVGs davon betroffen sind.

 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 08:04, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[]

mir ist da nichts derartiges aufgefallen.
Ich lade oft was mit "Ziel speichern unter" runter, eher selten auch indem ich es mit Rillke öffne und von dort kopiere. Du hast da eine dritte Variante? So ganz genau habe ich nicht verstanden was du mit FF machst -- sarang사랑 08:15, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[]
@JoKalliauer:
Do you have an example SVG file that gets changed?
I would not expect the SVG source to change, but there are some possibilities
An SVG file using a less common character encoding may be converted to UTF-8. If the Commons file has encoding="Shift-JIS", then the browser may read the JIS text and convert it to a DOMSTRING (UTF-16). When asked to save the text, it may save it as UTF-8. (Commons now restricts the encodings that may be uploaded.)
I would not expect a browser to reserialize its parsed SVG. If a browser did that, then the entity references would be replaced with their definitions. For example, many Adobe files define entities such as ns_extend and ns_ai; those references would be replaced.
I expect most graphics editors to change the source code. Could that be what happened?
Glrx (talk) 17:37, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[]
@Sarang: I thought about open a file https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Ways_of_St-2._James_in_Europe.svg and then press Ctrl+s (or alternatively over the menu)
@Glrx: I thought a browser integrated on opening or on saving a entity into the document (displaying the souce-code was correct). This lead to confusion some time ago, cause the saved file did not agree with the source-code in the browser. Some time later I think two people saw different svg-code and discussed it, not knowing about this phenomena, later I explained the reason.
Maybe I have to check/try some svg-codes, to find a pattern causing such differences.
 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 21:45, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[]
@Glrx: File found from @Cmglee: : https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/USGS_magnitude_8_earthquakes_since_1900.svg
original file: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/USGS_magnitude_8_earthquakes_since_1900.svg
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?>

<svg
if you open https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/USGS_magnitude_8_earthquakes_since_1900.svg in Firefox and press Ctrl+s
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?>
<svg
In this case Firefox
  1. replace two line feed (LF) with one line feed, however if you compare line-numbers it can be very annoying/confusing.
  2. replace all /> with />, removement of spaces
  3. change the file-name from USGS_magnitude_8_earthquakes_since_1900.svg to the svg-title Magnitude 8.0 and greater earthquakes since 1900.svg
  4. leading to a file-reduction from 115.058 bytes to 114.591 bytes
I meant more server cases, however I think you can see the Problem
 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 22:08, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Chr1_idiogram.svg change from <!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC '-//W3C//DTD SVG 1.1//EN' 'http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.1/DTD/svg11.dtd'> to <!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD SVG 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.1/DTD/svg11.dtd">


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Nauru-EEZ-fr.svg
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
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<!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD SVG 1.0//EN"    "http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/REC-SVG-20010904/DTD/svg10.dtd" [
	<!ENTITY ns_flows "http://ns.adobe.com/Flows/1.0/">
	<!ENTITY ns_extend "http://ns.adobe.com/Extensibility/1.0/">
	<!ENTITY ns_ai "http://ns.adobe.com/AdobeIllustrator/10.0/">
	<!ENTITY ns_graphs "http://ns.adobe.com/Graphs/1.0/">
	<!ENTITY ns_vars "http://ns.adobe.com/Variables/1.0/">
	<!ENTITY ns_imrep "http://ns.adobe.com/ImageReplacement/1.0/">
	<!ENTITY ns_sfw "http://ns.adobe.com/SaveForWeb/1.0/">
	<!ENTITY ns_custom "http://ns.adobe.com/GenericCustomNamespace/1.0/">
	<!ENTITY ns_adobe_xpath "http://ns.adobe.com/XPath/1.0/">
	<!ENTITY ns_svg "http://www.w3.org/2000/svg">
	<!ENTITY ns_xlink "http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink">
]>
<svg 
	 xmlns:x="&ns_extend;" xmlns:i="&ns_ai;" xmlns:graph="&ns_graphs;" i:viewOrigin="127 445" i:rulerOrigin="0 0" i:pageBounds="0 612 792 0"
	 xmlns="&ns_svg;" xmlns:xlink="&ns_xlink;" xmlns:a="http://ns.adobe.com/AdobeSVGViewerExtensions/3.0/" width="539" height="277"
	 viewBox="0 0 539 277" overflow="visible" enable-background="new 0 0 539 277" xml:space="preserve">

to

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!-- Generator: Adobe Illustrator 11 Build 196, SVG Export Plug-In . SVG Version: 6.0.0 Build 78)  -->
<!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD SVG 1.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/REC-SVG-20010904/DTD/svg10.dtd">
<svg xmlns:x="http://ns.adobe.com/Extensibility/1.0/" xmlns:i="http://ns.adobe.com/AdobeIllustrator/10.0/" xmlns:graph="http://ns.adobe.com/Graphs/1.0/" i:viewOrigin="127 445" i:rulerOrigin="0 0" i:pageBounds="0 612 792 0" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" xmlns:a="http://ns.adobe.com/AdobeSVGViewerExtensions/3.0/" width="539" height="277" viewBox="0 0 539 277" overflow="visible" enable-background="new 0 0 539 277" xml:space="preserve">
 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 22:17, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[]
Hi both, I've noticed the change in filename, too, so have made the SVG title the same as its filename without extension. Another change is that HTML ampersand codes e.g. &#176; are replaced with their Unicode equivalents. cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 19:43, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[]

Error in Perhelion after Admin moved code over[edit]

Hi Sarang. I hope you are doing well! Long time we don't chat!
I see that an ADMIN moved your javascript code to User:Perhelion/simpleSVGcheck.js That's awesome. There is a small error.. now the javascript code has an error when I run it and click on 'Show Preview" before I save the file. I run the javascript, I do Show Preview (before saving file changes), I see error "Unrecognized value for parameter "useskin": modern" BTW, I use the Chrome browser --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 20:33, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[]

Thank you for telling me. There are so many possibilities, impossible to test each combination, that sure the script contain errors. I can do something only when somebody let me know.
I am using the skin "MonoBook", and the Perhelion-script myself with Firefox as well as Chrom. I have no idea where the mentioned error comes from, may be that you can give me more information? Where it occurs, whether it is reproduceable; how much it disturbs your work. -- sarang사랑 04:54, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[]
It does not disturb my work too much. Step 1, run the script, file is in edit mode, Step 2, click on the button that says "Show Preview", error message is seen at top of page - Error message = "Unrecognized value for parameter "useskin": modern" -Step 3 After the error message, I can Publish Changes (save the file no problem and it updates correctly). --> Summary- I save the file anyway. There is no error when I save the file. The only problem is I can not "Show Preview" of file changes before clicking "Publish changes" button. No big deal, I think. Take care! --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 04:59, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[]

File:American continent proposed flag.svg[edit]

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Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

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Difference Between Derived From and Extracted From Templates[edit]

Since I see you are fairly active in maintaining them, could you explain what the difference is between Template:Derived from and Template:Extracted from. I want to make sure I am using them correctly. –Noha307 (talk) 01:50, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[]

@Noha307: As far as I see it, there is not much difference, and taking the "wrong" one will not be too bad. But "extracted" means that a part of the former picture is physically copied to make the new one, as a cropping; with or without some ameliorations (contrast, color adaption, reparation of failures).
"Derived" means that rather ideas of the former one are developped.
There are also Attrib, esp. in heraldry, and AutVec for mere vectorizations.
When the new image is a mixture of extraction and derivation, use Attrib - or a verbal explanation. -- sarang사랑 06:56, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[]
Thanks! I tend to be anal-retentive about this type of stuff, so I appreciate it. Is that worth explaining in better detail on the templates themselves? –Noha307 (talk) 00:36, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Request to upload SVG.[edit]

  • Mitu Kouhone (No background and Black color drawing).svg

https://kamon-db.net/portfolio/mitsukouhone https://irohakamon.com/kamon/koubone/mitsukoubone.html

Japanese Crest Mitu Kouhone.svgJapanese Crest Mitu Kouhone.svg The version Japanese crest Mitu kouhone.png without the base of . Gameposo (talk) 11:50, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[]

beard?[edit]

Re this edit, I think it might just be a beard? HLHJ (talk) 22:50, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Notification about possible deletion[edit]

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If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Affected:

And also:

Yours sincerely, Tokfo (talk) 07:30, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[]

COM:AN/U[edit]

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Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems#User is making thousands of errors with an automated script, refuses to discuss. This is in relation to an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.

  — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 22:40, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Hi Sarang, könntest du dort bitte mal Stellung nehmen. --Túrelio (talk) 07:28, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[]
@Túrelio: danke, ich bin gerade dabei ausfuhrlich Stellung zu beziehen. -- sarang사랑 07:31, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[]
@Túrelio: Ich selbst verwende das Skript auch und mir war die Problematik/Strittigkeit von 1= nicht bewusst, ich sah es als eine gewünschte Syntaxvereinfachung an.
User_talk:Sarang#Script_error stellt meines Erachtens eine Einzelmeinung von User:Koavf dar.
Template:Internationalization_template_doc#Verwendung steht zwar da dass man 1= hinzufügen soll, aber die Begründung ist für Sarang's edits nicht zutreffend und somit ist es meines Erachtens nicht definiert.
Die Entfernung von 1= wurde wenn ich Sarang richtig verstehe von User:Perhelion vor etlichen Jahren zum Skript hinzugefügt und war meines Wissens bis jetzt unstrittig.
 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 08:10, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Erklärung der Meinungen[edit]

Gem. Commons:Guide_to_adminship/de#Mehrsprachigkeit versuche ich die Meinungen bezüglich 1= zu erklären (die anderen Punkte zu Igen sind meines Erachtens Nebenbemerkungen).

für 1= gegen 1=
Wenn jemand zu dem Text ein "=" hinzufügt funktioniert die Syntax noch immer (Beispielsweise "{{de|Das Diagram zeigt eine Gleichung}}" würde bei Änderung in "{{de|Das Diagram zeigt die Gleichung 1+1=2"}} Probleme machen Wenn jemand eine Pipe am Ende hinzufügt funktioniert die Syntax noch immer, also "{{de|1=Beschreibung}}" würde bei Änderung in "{{de|1=Beschreibung|}}" Probleme machen.
es ist klarer was das 1.Argument ist Es ist eine einfachere Syntax

Hier ist es, anders als bei anderen Vorlagen, dass üblicherweise ein längerer Text folgt, der auch (selten aber vermutlich doch immer wieder) ein Gleichheitszeichen beinhaltet.

Es gibt meines Erachtens kein Richtig und kein Falsch, es sind verschiedene Wertigkeiten was man bevorzugen sollte, und auch wenn ich die Meldung auf Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems#User_is_making_thousands_of_errors_with_an_automated_script,_refuses_to_discuss als verfrüht finde und ich verstehe, dass es dich aufbringt, ist es das wichtigste kühlen Kopf zu bewahren, langsam durchzuatmen und Wörter wie "ignorant" mit Bedacht zu verwenden, sie würden nur dich in ein schlechtes Licht rücken und deine Position schwächen. Ich würde die Meinung über andere Personen dem Leser überlassen.

Diese Nachricht sagt nichts aus wer was falsch gemacht hat, es soll nur ein Vermittlungsversuch sein.

 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 10:19, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Nachtrag

Vom Script wird gepruft ob der Text mindestens ein "freies" Gleichheitszeichen enthält - in diesem Fall wird das 1= natürlich belassen. Gleichheitszeichen innerhalb einer Vorlage haben nicht diese Wirkung. -- sarang사랑 10:32, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Your recent archival of a thread[edit]

In Special:Diff/592556188, you archived a thread while there was still discussion going on about your actions to svg files. Why? While you have every right to do so, common sense would prevail that you don't speedy archive discussions because it may be about your problematic actions. Just saying, but it does show you not wanting to discuss the problems you've made. SHB2000 (talk) 07:55, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]

SHB2000 you are right, it is not my interest to continue useless discussions -- sarang사랑 08:29, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]
"useless discussions". Useless? SHB2000 (talk) 08:32, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]
@SHB2000: sarang is well within their right to archive, whether we agree with it or not. If you have an issue with it, raise it at one of the Admin noticeboards, personally I think I expressed what I had to say and had nothing further to add to it but do hope they take onboard the criticism I had regarding the lack of edit summaries. Time to move on, there are bigger issues in the World then someone archiving a dead-end discussion. Bidgee (talk) 11:52, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Well aware of it (mentioned it in "While you have every right to do so"), although was just pointing out to sarang that it's a sign of them not willing to discuss their actions. But agree on time to move on SHB2000 (talk) 11:56, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]

stop removing 1=[edit]

Lieber Sarang!

Ich fasse Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems#User_is_making_thousands_of_errors_with_an_automated_script,_refuses_to_discuss es für dich zusammen: Der Großteil deiner Änderungen sind ok, jedoch eine Änderung des Skriptes ist explizit verboten worden: Die Entfernung von "1=" in Sprachvorlagen wie {{En}} oder {{De}}. Ich werde mich noch kümmern, dies in Template:Internationalization_template_doc#Vorlagenparameter klarer darzulegen. Alle anderen Synstax-vereinheitlichungen (sortierung der Variablennamen, kleinschreibung der Variablennamen,...) sind irgendetwas zwischen erwünscht und toleriert.

Falls die Diskussion/Entscheidung unklar ist, bitte ich dich nachzufragen.

User:Davey2010, hat in Special:Diff/593033024 eine Sperre verlangt/gewünschen. Die Änderung des Skriptes braucht verständlicherweise einige Zeit, bis dahin solltest du solche Edits (entfernen von "1=") unterlassen, bzw manuell nach-korrigieren, ansonsten drohen administrative Sanktionen, wie ein temporärer Block. Sollte etwas missverständlich sein, kannst du mich fragen.

Als einer der Nutzer des Skriptes würde ich mich freuen, wenn du das Skript korrigieren könntest. Es wäre hilfreich zu wissen, ob bzw bis wann du planst das Skript zu ändern.

 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 17:59, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Blöde Frage, kann es sein, dass es im Computer im Cache das Skript zwischengespeichert ist, weil heute beim Arbeitspc hatte wollte er auch das 1= entfernen?  — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 18:47, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Ich verstehe zuwenig vom caching - es erscheint mir sehr merkwurdig dass langst geanderte Funktionen wieder aufleben: eines der unerklarlichen Wunder der IT; aber es muss eine Erklarung geben, auch wenn ich sie nicht zu finden vermag. Beim script-editing wird darauf hingewiesen dass gepurgt werden soll um zuverlassig die neue Version zu aktivieren. So ein Purge wirkt doch auf den Cache, und damit auch auf alle anderen user? Oder hat jeder seinen eigenen Cache? Selbst dann kann doch nicht plotzlich wieder altes aktiv werden nachdem neues funktioniert hat. Eine Hypothese: jeder Server hat seinen Cache, und wenn du zufallig an einen anderen Server geratst der noch geschlafen hat... wie gesagt, die Materie ist mir nicht vertraut. Zum Gluck ist dieser spezielle Fall, das Entfernen oder Belassen von "1=" vollkommen unkritisch. Aber es ist sehr beunruhigend wenn Dinge nicht richtig funktionieren. -- sarang사랑 06:57, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Ich mag Cookies (auch die unbeliebten Browser-Cookies). Sie ermöglichen es mir, dass ich mich nicht jedes mal auf Wikimedia einloggen muss, aber ja es gibt Datenschutz- und Sicherheitsprobleme die in zusammenhang mit Cookies stehen.
Kannst du https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Pure-storage-vector-logo.svg&action=edit&simpleSVGcheck=0&curSize=1883&badSVG=0&PGF=0&switchTrans=0&textTrans=0 aufrufen, und mir sagen ob er auch bei dir das "1=" entfernt, oder ob das nur bei mir so ist?
Ich mag ein phab-ticket schreiben.
Ich hab schon (2) Template:Purge_client_cache versucht, (2) alle Cookies,Cache,SitePreferences,OfflineWebSiteDate in FF gelöscht (3) mit BleachBit BackupFiles,Cache,Cookies,CrashReports,DomStorage,SitePreferences,Vacuum von FF gelöscht.
Bei mir ist das Problem sogar in Chromium repoduzierbar.
Ich geh von der Arbeit heim und schau ob ich es nach einem weiteren Neustart reproduzieren kann.
 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 17:16, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Hallo Johannes, ich hab genau deinen Link zu Pure-storage-vector-logo.svg aufgerufen und mich vergewissert dass per W3C-Blume1 das script nochmal durchgefuhrt wird. Alles wird richtig gemacht und das "1=" bleibt belassen. Nur, weil der SVG-code keinerlei tool-Hinweis enthalt und die Datei kleiner als 2048 bytes ist schlagt das script 'Text editor' als tool vor. Ich habe diesen Test auch mit Opera und als User:Sarangbot mit identischem Ergebnis durchgefuhrt. Es bleibt ein Mirakel -- sarang사랑 08:00, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Komisch, bei mir entfernt es "1=", aber es lässt Adobe Illustrator als Tool, siehe https://owncloud.tuwien.ac.at/index.php/s/GFJm5MmqOtGOnq4.  — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 08:19, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Ich machte mehrere Tests; nur wenn ich das bestehende |other fields= entferne kommt das script mit Text editor (das script sucht verzweifelt, wenn es nichts finden kann ubernimmt es die bestehende Adobe-Angabe).Losche es mal (temporar) weg und schaue, was der Blume1-transclude macht.
Als admin konntest du ja an das User:sarang/cleanup.js ran, aber ist gar nicht notwendig; nach dem hier empfohlenen Test setze mal einen purge auf das script ab (kann jeder user), und versuche es dann nochmals. Ich bin schon sehr gespannt ob wir finden konnen was da klemmt. Wenn wir gar nichts finden konnen weisst du vllt jemanden den man fragen kann ? -- sarang사랑 11:47, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Ich habs gefunden! Eine sehr naturliche Erklarung und ganz einfach, sobald man weiss:
ich verwende User:Sarang/simpleSVGcheck/sandbox.js, und die meisten anderen User:Perhelion/simpleSVGcheck.js – da ist alles richtig.
du aber verwendest User:Sarang/simpleSVGcheck.js, eine von mir fast vergessene Version, und da war noch eine 1= Entfernung drin! Jetzt ist auch die repariert (Z. 607), und alles muss richtig laufen. Also keine Gefahr mehr, dass ausgerehnet du zum "Law of 9/22"-Sunder wirst.
wie oben erklart, musst du das Igen ganz entfernen, damit das script nicht wieder Adobe findet. -- sarang사랑 14:51, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Category:Structural_formulas_created_with_SVG[edit]

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Leyo 22:27, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[]

=1[edit]

Hallo Sarang,
Von diesem Punkt an können Sie den Parameter "=1" aus keiner Vorlage entfernen - dieser Parameter sollte so lange bestehen bleiben, bis Sie oder jemand anderes Einvernehmen darüber besteht, ihn zu entfernen.
Wenn Sie es weiterhin entfernen, können Sie leider aus dem Projekt ausgeschlossen werden.
Ich habe Google Translate verwendet, da ich kein Deutsch spreche,
Vielen Dank, Mit freundlichen Grüßen, –Davey2010Talk 12:04, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Thank you Davey2010; I have no problem to understand English — my problem is only to understand nonsense-arguments or accept nonsense-accusations. I can try to explain when people have not understood documentation, but I will not force anybody to understand or accept the truth. I cannot level up someones ability to understand simple facts, or someones intelligence, when he does not want to list but prefers to keep his wrong views.
I shall follow the orders I got but please do not come with arguments.
I have used my poor knowledge of English, hoping you can read it nevertheless -- sarang사랑 12:39, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Hi Sarang, Oh okay sorry, As you're not a native English speaker I thought German might help better, Anyway no worries.
I haven't come with arguments tho - I was advised by someone to come here and ask in your native language which is what I did, no arguments here :),
Your English is fine it's a lot better than me haha!, Happy editing. –Davey2010Talk 12:50, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Category:SVG_images_with_embedded_raster_graphics:KarimKoueider[edit]

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Large circles used to fill non-circular areas on flags[edit]

Please do not use large circles to fill non-circular areas. You did this today on File:Flag of South Sudan2.svg. These files are absolutely painful to work with when they are imported into other SVG files. As an exercise, please try this:

  • Open Inkscape
  • Draw a rectangle that is 200px × 100px.
  • Import File:Flag of South Sudan2.svg (preferably in a new semi-opaque layer)
  • Attempt to make the flag fit inside the rectangle. MapGrid (talk) 00:44, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@MapGrid: These SVG code examples are not intended to be imported by Inkscape. Draw your SVG files with any vector graphic tool, but leave the text-drawn SVG examples as they are; you do not need to use them when there are plenty of other drawings of the same object. -- sarang사랑 07:17, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
I learned something new today.
Generally, a scalable SVG file should have a viewBox but not width or height attributes. The purpose of the width and height attributes is to specify fixed display dimensions. Scalable images do not want fixed dimensions.
In addition, specifying the width and height to be a multiple of the viewBox seems odd. Why not 1:1?
Simply removing the width and height attributes causes display problems on browsers.
The browser display is accurate if the flag is drawn in a 2:1 container, but if the container is not that ratio, then the edges of the image become visible. If the width is too narrow, then we get more green on top. If the width is too wide, then we get more green to the left and a rounded lower-right green corner. (The flag is drawn at 114×57. The hypotenuse is 127.46, and the green circle radius is just outside that at 128.)
That suggests the real purpose of the width and height attributes is clipping the image to the proper flag dimensions. That's not the fundamental intent of those attributes. The flag dimensions should be set in the body of the SVG.
It seems simpler to use a green rectangle rather than an oversize circle. One need not calculate the hypotenuse, and one gets a more robust image.
Glrx (talk) 18:56, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
example Jamaica
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="600" height="300" viewBox="0 0 12 6">
<circle fill="#00973F" r="13"/>
<path stroke="#FCDB00" d="m-6,9 24-12v12L-6-3"/>
</svg>
@Glrx: How about moving this discussion to a more visible SVG guideline?
"Fixed display dimensions" occur when I use an offline renderer, the first view without zooming in/out.
My opinion about width/height and viewBox: when instead of w/h the viewBox is used, our renderer uses 512px for the sizing – which is a good value for the display; I am not completely sure whether that is a rule for all renderers.
I prefere to use always w/h, and normally a width about 600 or a height about 400 is a good value. I am using viewBox only to shorten coordinates, and then in addition to w/h – e.g. width="600" height="400" viewBox="0 0 12 8" which would be without w/h definition 512 and 341.
W/h much too small (e.g. 10×16 for small icons) need often coordinates like 0.15, and even zooming to the maximum will be too small. W/h too large give the analoguos problem that not the whole picture can be seen. While a viewBox may allow to express coordinates shorter, an image as e.g. Flag of the Second Spanish Republic (plain).svg with width="10" height="6" (for the three rectangles 10×2) will sure bee much too small.
About the "first background", sure a rectangle is more correct – but the circle can cause the same effect when there is a competition depending the bytes size. It can be compared to draw circles with the linecap option. I have problems to understand the sense of your statements "The browser display is accurate if the flag is..." and "That suggests the real purpose" or "robust image".
It is not nice of me to other users when SVG code is optimized beyond readability, but nevertheless it is correct designing an image? -- sarang사랑 10:56, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]