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Tip: Categorizing images[edit]

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Hello, The Duke of Waltham!
Tip: Add categories to your images

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:


2) You can also pick the file from your list of uploads, edit the file description page, and manually add the category code at the end of the page.

[[Category:Category name]]

For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

[[Category:Astronomical diagrams]]

This will make the diagram show up in the categories "Astronomical diagrams" and "Comets".

When picking categories, try to choose a specific category ("Astronomical diagrams") over a generic one ("Illustrations").

Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.

BotMultichillT 08:46, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

File:Duke of Waltham Arms.png[edit]

Please add it to Category:Coats of arms of families of the United Kingdom if it's a "real" coat of arms, or to Category:Coats of arms of users if it's something you made up... AnonMoos (talk) 12:16, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Ah, that (the latter) is the category I was looking for, but never quite found the willpower and time to actually seek out. Sir, you are a godsend. Waltham, The Duke of 13:52, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

UK CoA[edit]

Replies from Sodacan moved to his talk page, where the discussion originated. Waltham, The Duke of 11:48, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

File:Claude Monet Houses of Parliament.jpg[edit]

Please learn the rules before uploading new versions of pictures in the future. A confirmed source of a PD painting is not a valid reason for replacing an image with an inferior version of a painting. Marac (talk) 18:14, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

We've crossed our wires here; I have posted a message on the image's talk page. I am posting a note there that the discussion is taking place here. Waltham, The Duke of 18:17, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
I am not very experienced in working in the Commons, and it probably shows. However, it has always been my understanding that an image must have source information. I had not realised that, so long as it is in the public domain, an image can be hosted here with no source information at all; is there a page you can recommend so I can read up on this? Waltham, The Duke of 18:24, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
Well, it's easy to notice that you have no experience. First of all, you shouldn't revert my changes before learning what you did wrong (or making sure you're changes were legitimate). Don't you think? Avoid overwriting existing files Marac (talk) 18:41, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
Inexperienced as I may be here, Marac, I have a long record of service in the English Wikipedia, and I believe I am justified in not taking as seriously a revert with no proper edit summary as you might have wished. Upon seeing it, I followed what I know from Wikipedia as the "BOLD, revert, discuss cycle"; I find it reasonable that, if an edit is challenged, the status quo ought to prevail while the disagreeing editors discuss the matter.
I have read the page to which you have linked me, and although it seems a good guide to keep in mind, I am not sure it covers our case. The motive for my original substitution was to avoid uploading the alternative version under a different name only to have the original file and page deleted due to lack of source information (per the deletion policy). Perhaps that was my mistake, and I ought to have uploaded the image separately. Whatever the case, you are true in saying that the image is public domain irrespective of source; whether this is sufficient for the file to stay, however, I'll leave for someone else to judge. I have tagged the page with {{Nsd}}. Waltham, The Duke of 22:07, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
There is a consensus already that PD works do not need source information, so nothing to judge here. It is nice when they have, but it would be absurd to delete them for this reason. Further reading: When to use the PD-Art tag, Template:Artwork, Image casebook.
As for the "BOLD, revert, discuss cycle" guideline, you might wish to read it again, because it clearly states that in case someone reverts your edit, you should discuss the matter, but until then the most recent edit (in this case the revert) prevails. Reverting a revert without reaching a consensus beforehand is considered a start of an "edit war" (mentioned in the guideline) and may be reported to the admins. I didn't do that, hoping you are a serious man, not a troll. I'm happy I was right. Marac (talk) 11:17, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for acknowledging my serious intentions with regards to this project; the last thing I wish to be is disruptive.
At the risk of sounding argumentative, I should like to clarify that I considered your edit the first step of the BDR cycle, my revert of it the second, and this discussion the third. The fact that the nature of your edit was to revert another is irrelevant; my previous edit had stood for over four months and I cannot be blamed for thinking of it as the status quo at the time you reverted it.
To return to the matter at hand, I have never questioned that faithful reproductions of two-dimensional artworks are not copyrighted if the original artworks themselves are in the public domain (well, not since this, anyway). The pages to which you have linked me (and a couple of others I have read) do create a general impression that the purpose of including a source in a file description page is to ascertain its copyright status (and provide attribution if needed), and therefore sources are not required for files which are self-evidently in the public domain. However, I maintain that, for a hapless newbie with no knowledge of discussions and consensus other than what is written on the guidance and documentation pages of the project, Template:Artwork and Commons:Image casebook are not clear enough about whether it is actually permissible to omit source information, and Commons:Essential information dwells little on this issue. Perhaps some clarification is in order? Waltham, The Duke of 18:14, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Copyright of photograph of Monet painting[edit]

Thank's a lot. It's perfect for me. CaptainHaddock (talk) 10:02, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

File:St Stephen's Tower.jpg[edit]

File:St_Stephen's_Tower.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you! 19:36, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the notification. I fully intend to voice my opinion about the deletion request, and I appreciate your appreciation for my doing so. Waltham, The Duke of 21:01, 20 July 2011 (UTC)


Thanks for your message. I've just corrected the eagle's coronet, it was only a mistake. I put the name of User:Sodacan when I use all elements of a coat of arms that have been designed by him. Regards --Heralder (talk) 13:07, 8 December 2014 (UTC)