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Omphalographer (talk) 19:59, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fasnet in Oberndorf not Rottweil

das ist in Oberndorf nicht Rottweil. Du solltest Dir hier einen passenderen Kategorienamen ausdenken. Wuselig (talk) 18:50, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wuselig: Danke für den Hinweis.

Die Kategorie lautete "Rottweil beim Narrentag 2024" und war ursprünglich in der "Category:Rottweiler Fasnet in the 2010s" einsortiert. Das war nicht offensichtlich und unpassend einsortiert. Ich erstellte Category:Fasnet in Rottweil in the 2020s, die ich nun auch wieder gelöscht habe.

Wenn hier also die Rottweiler Gruppe in Oberndorf am Neckar aufgetreten ist, habe ich mal die Category:Narrenzunft Rottweil beim Narrentag 2024 in Oberndorf am Neckar erstellt (und die unpassenden Kategorie wieder gelöscht).

Diese Kategorie habe ich in Category:Narrentag Oberndorf 2024 - Nachtumzug eingehängt und die Bilder dort entfernt, damit sie nicht doppelt einsortiert sind.

Viele Grüße -- Triple C 85 ^{| User talk |} 06:15, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Die Rottweiler Fasnet ist es ja trotzdem, genauso wie es die Überlinger Fasnet, die Oberndorfer und die Elzacher Fasnet ist. Sie treten nur bei ihren Vierbundtreffen im Ort der jeweiligen Gastzunft auf. Also eine Einordnung in einer Kategorie "Category:Fasnet in Rottweil in the 2020s" wäre zusätzlich passend. Wuselig (talk) 10:35, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wuselig: Ich verstehe was du meinst.

Unter der Category:Viererbund habe ich zunächst mal vier gleichartige Kategorien einsortiert für die vier beteiligten Narrenzünfte; eine davon neu erstellt und mit den gleichlautenden Wikipedia-Artikel sowie über Wikidata verknüpft. Siehe:

Category:Viererbund

Dann noch die Category:Narrentag of Viererbund (NEU) für Bilder der Narrentage, die von den vier Narrenzünften alle 3-4 Jahre ausgerichtet werden.

Kategorien wie Category:Fasnet in Rottweil in 2017 oder Category:Fasnet in Rottweil in the 2010s beschreiben relativ eindeutig, dass es um Bilder "in" Rottweil geht.

Falls ein Narrentag jedoch in "Oberndorf" stattfindet, dann können die Bilder stehen in:

a) Category:Fasnet in Oberndorf am Neckar in YYYY --> Narrentag

b) Category:Narrentag of Viererbund --> YYYY

Für Bilder der jeweiligen Narrenzünfte (z.B. Narrenzunft Rottweil ... in einem ANDEREN Ort, z.B. in Oberndorf) würde ich die Einsortierung wie folgt lösen:

Category:Narrenzunft Rottweil
- Category:Narrenzunft Rottweil in Oberndorf am Neckar (für die Eingangs von dir beschriebenen Bilder, wenn die Narrenzunft Rottweil in anderen Orten zu Gast ist)
- Category:Fasnet in Rottweil
  - Category:Fasnet in Rottweil by year (für Bilder der Fasnet IN Rottweil nach Jahr)

So ist die Zuordnung und Beschriftung auch für Außenstehende ziemlich klar nachvollziehbar.

Gruß -- Triple C 85 ^{| User talk |} 13:11, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nachtrag: Ich habe hier jetzt einige Bilder aufgeräumt und sortiert:

Für die Fasnet im jeweiligen Ort nach Jahr:

Für die Auftritte der Narrenzünfte nach Orten (auch Fasnet in anderen Orten):

Und für die bessere Sichtbarkeit dieses Verbunds ein Template:Viererbund geschaffen.

Gruß -- Triple C 85 ^{| User talk |} 14:24, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wow!!!!!!!!! Danke!

Da mir mein Kopf derzeit woanders steht freue ich mich über Deine Arbeit sehr. Wuselig (talk) 14:45, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sehr gerne! Dein Einwand hat das ganze ins Rollen gebracht... Und das Durcheinander in Ordnung überführt ;-)

-- Triple C 85 ^{| User talk |} 14:49, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. um den Zusammenhang besser sichtbar zu machen habe ich noch die Kategorien by location verschoben:

Also z.B. "Narrenzunft Oberndorf in Rottweil" verschoben auf

Category:Narrenzunft Oberndorf at Fasnet in Rottweil verschoben, einsortiert in
- Category:Narrenzunft Oberndorf by location und
- Category:Fasnet in Rottweil.

So auch analog für alle anderen Fälle ;-) -- Triple C 85 ^{| User talk |} 14:53, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wuselig: Das ist ein Thema, bei dem ich jetzt längerfristig am Ball bleibe und immer wieder mal einzelne Narrenzünfte bzw. nach Landkreisen das durchforste und ordne.

Bsp. 1: Alle Faschingskategorien in Deutschland nach Bundesländern sortiert, siehe die neue Kategorie Category:Carnivals of Germany by state

Bsp. 2: Die Bilder in den Bundesländern neben der thematischen Sortierung auch zeitlich erfasst, siehe etwa die Category:Carnivals of Baden-Württemberg by year

Bsp. 3: Gerade etwa die Category:Narrenzunft Munderkingen by location angelegt ... das betrifft dann schnell wieder ein halbes Dutzend weiterer Orte. Wenn die Narrenzunft Munderkingen in Weingarten beim Fasching auftritt wäre "Fasnet in Munderkingen" etwas irreführend. Category:Narrenzunft Munderkingen at Fasnet in Weingarten (Württemberg) schafft hier Klarheit. Vor allem wenn sich die Auftritte auf viele Orte verteilen.

Gruß -- Triple C 85 ^{| User talk |} 10:01, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Von ganz weit weg, einen dicken erhobenen Daumen von mir. Mehr Zeit kann ich zur derzeit in das Thema nicht investieren, da mir derzeit die Kamera heißläuft und die Speicherkarten ausgehen. Wuselig (talk) 14:50, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 09:13, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Sbb1413: Thanks for the information. All of your post are incomplete and not in the correct form. no headline with topic. No reference to the discussion "its entry". Please add it in the correct form so that I or fellow readers can find the arguments and join in the discussion. Thanks. -- Triple C 85 ^{| User talk |} 09:13, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Triplec85: It is not my fault. I usually nominate category with a reference to the discussion, but it caused problems with this talk page. Anyway, the discussion is available at Commons:Categories for discussion/2025/02. --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 09:21, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Sbb1413: No. You can add headlines. It is possible for you. I added one with this edit. You post all your messages directly under other discussion modules without Subheadings and without links to the discussion.

We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at [[{{{2}}}|its entry]] ...

[[{{{2}}}|its entry]] is always not filled out in your posts. Greets-- Triple C 85 ^{| User talk |} 22:42, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You can add it like this its entry. -- Triple C 85 ^{| User talk |} 22:47, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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