Revert in Category:Pottery
Hola Tuvalkin-- I have been putting work into sorting the category:pottery, and noticed you reverted a change I had made.
This category tree has obviously not had attention paid to it for awhile; I was looking for something specific and it was not possible to find it. I have been reaching out for advice, in the absence of positive suggestions I have been trying to move forward. This said, I would be very appreciative if you could take a holistic work I have done and make suggestions. Anywhere I have made errors, I am glad to be corrected. This said, reference to similar category trees has been less helpful than I would have hoped (I've checked out both the ceramics tree and the baskets tree, and my impression, which may be wrong, is that people uploading files don't have a good idea where to put their items).
In this specific case, why is there a pottery category Pottery for sale (1 F) and a category Pottery markets (2 C, 90 F)? Why have a category so high up on the tree with a single file? Does this category even need to exist, unless as a redirect?
Hi Tuvalkin, taking into consideration the contributions of this user, I was wondering if his photo should be deleted because of out of scope. Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 11:17, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hello, Lotje! I’m sorry I didn’t notice your post before. While I’m likely the last person who’d favour any scope deletion, well — let’s say that I would not vote to keep if I come across a DR against this image based on COM:Scope. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 09:27, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Overcategorized or not?
Hello! I'd like to ask your help to decide a question. Category:Tram 2211 (Budapest) is a subcategory of Category:Urbos 3 in Budapest or not? User:Falk2 reverted my edits here based on not overcategorized if a file put in both category. Sincerely, - - Globetrotter19 (talk) 08:03, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, you’re right, @Globetrotter19: User:Falk2 tried the same with Lisbon trams in 2018 and end up blocked for a few weeks — not so much for categorization vandalism but for being generally obnoxious and with a huge problem of COM:OWN.
- There is merit however in his basic claim, that it is useful to have a central location to browse all files about the same model — in this case all of Budapest’s Urbos 3. This should not infringe COM:Overcat, of course, and doesn’t excuse anyone’s uncategorization vandalism, but I implemented for Lisbon a solution that addresses that concern (although not to User:Falk2’s satisfaction because he’s not one for compromise), by recategorizing/dissiminating the basic cats for Lisbon trams by perspective (facing right, facing left, head on, sideways, and from above) down to the level of each of the 20-something series.
- This was easy to do (was done in about 24h) and allows, for each series, to have all its files — not in one location, but in five (of which two, left and right, are the most populated), which is manageable, productive, and fits within the established categorization scheme, without touching the categorization by vehicle that is in place and which you are right about being worth of keeping undisturbed. I suggest you implement this solution in Budapest, too, regardless of the need to, once more, sadly drag User:Falk2 back to COM:AN/U for an apparently much needed reevaluation of his block.
- -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 09:18, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I have to ask another question, because Globetrotter19 cleaned up the Urbos 3 in Budapest category and I don't understand it. If we look the COM:Overcat it is maybe necessary to do so, but now all the pictures of a tram model split up to 30 subcategories, meanwhile there are other subcategories under the main category with no problem. I am not sure it is a transparent system. So can we restore the category of Urbos 3 as a tram type, or is the current system absolutely fine? Kemenymate (talk) 21:19, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- This is supererogation, I suggest you to clean the Category:Tram lines in Budapest as well. Now I'm really curious about Tuvalkin's opinion. Kemenymate (talk) 22:19, 16 May 2020 (UTC)