- 1 File:Monte (Funchal) - Azalea (Rhododendron) IMG 2051.JPG
- 2 Elymus repens or Elytrigia repens?
- 3 plant question
- 4 Clematis aristata
- 5 Oncidium problem
- 6 Cultivar names, trade name vs others
- 7 File:2010 07 17150 5814 Beinan Township, Taiwan, Jhihben National Forest Recreation Area, Walking paths, Trees.JPG
- 8 Pteridopsida
- 9 Rosa 'Lions Rose'
- 10 Category:Tulips miscellaneous group
- 11 Danke
- 12 File:Penstemon Rocky Mountain NP.jpg
- 13 File:Blüte von Hylotelephium 'Herbstfreude' mit zwei Bienen IMG 9737c.jpg
- 14 Senecio erucifolius vs. Jacobaea erucifolia
- 15 Editor @ ar.wiki
- 16 Christmas and New Year
- 17 Agave sp.
Elymus repens or Elytrigia repens?
According to the Wikispecies and Wikicommons Elymus repens and Elytrigia repens are the same/one species. But according to The Plant List, the two are two different species: Elymus repens (L.) Gould and Elytrigia repens Desv. I wonder who got it wrong? Regards. DenesFeri (talk) 11:48, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hi! Unfortunatey the Plant List is a mess and ca not be trusted. The administration of the Plant List is aware of the problem and are working on a solution.
- Elymus repens and Elytrigia repens are the same species as both names are based on the same type and have the same basionym (Triticum repens L.).
- I have updated the Wikispecies data and choosen to use Elytrigia repens as the present accepted name, as most sources I have looked in prefers to accept Elytrigia repens and only a few uses Elytrigia repens.
- A good source for names of grass species (and many others) is The World Checklist. Uleli (talk) 15:47, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
Are this File:1 Plant sp. - Madeira 12.jpg Aloe ferox, this two File:1 Plant sp. - Madeira 6.jpg, File:1 Plant sp. - Madeira 7.jpg Aloe plicatilis, and File:1 Plant sp. - Madeira 8.jpg Yucca gigantea? Regards. DenesFeri (talk) 07:46, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
And another question: according to The World Checklist of Selected Plant Families  the Oncidium flexuosum is a synonym of this two Cyrtochilum flexuosum  and Gomesa flexuosa . I want to know which one is it. Do you know? Regards. DenesFeri (talk) 08:48, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
- The identification of the Aloe species seem correct.
- The first Yucca agrees better with Yucca aloifolia 'Variegata'.
- The second Yucca is probably Yucca filamentosa.
- On the orchids.... the name Oncidium flexuosum has been used two times for different plants. It is unfortunate, but it happens that botanist use a name that has been used before. This was by far more common long back in history... long before databases and internet time. So.... Loddiges used the name first, in 1820, for a plant now classified as Gomesa flexuosa. Later Lindley used the name again in 1841, probably unaware that Loddiges already published the name. Lindleys plant is now called Cyrtochilum flexuosum.
HI you change the categories on some photographs I took to Clematis aristata accord to The Western Australian Herbarium this taxa is no longer current, the correct taxa is Clematis pubescens can you please explain on what basis you changed this? Gnangarra 11:17, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
- accoirding to en:Clematis aristata its not found in Western Australia.. Gnangarra 11:25, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
- This name of this plant is problematic as there is little agreement among botanical sources. For exampel Flora of Australia Online makes it synonymous with C. aristata while Australian Plant Census (APC) accept it as a species, Clematis on the Web list it as Clematis gilbertiana etc. I choosed to follow T.W.Wang 2004 (A revision of Clematis sect . Aspidanthera s.l. Acta Phytotaxonomica Sinica 42(2): 113.) as it is the most recent taxonomic treatment of the group. Wang accept it as Clematis aristata var. occidentalis. I have no problem to accept it as C. pubescens here if you think that is a better idea Uleli (talk) 20:31, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
- I'll move them. ¨¨¨¨
According to The World Checklist of Selected Plant Families not every Oncidium sp. in the Commons is really an Oncidium. This might cause problems to those who want to use Oncidium pictures in they articles. Same problem I had in the Oncidium flexuosum Hungaryan article, which now I renamed it Cyrtochilum flexuosum; thanks to you. DenesFeri (talk) 10:57, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
Cultivar names, trade name vs others
Saw you undid some of my cultivar cat renames. There should be discussion. With Rosa cultivars there is a consensus of using trade names pro code names because the plants are more often recognised with trade names (being indeed the names used for trade) and also more memorable than the very similar code names. What is your reasoning behind preferring the codes, beyond that they are the "real" names? --Pitke (talk) 06:48, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
- This is a tricky subject. The cultivar names are global, fixed to certain plant and solid beyond the "trade games"... but sometimes not generally known. There can be several tradenames to one cultivar and also, the same tradename can be used for different cultivars, all in the purpose of selling. What to do? If choosing the tradenames here, what to do with that has different names in different countries? Should we choose a "standard country"?
- However, if there is a consensus among roses, I belive Clematis should follow the same praxis for concistensy.... as long as we do note that the name is a tradename and not the cultivar name Uleli (talk) 08:06, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
File:2010 07 17150 5814 Beinan Township, Taiwan, Jhihben National Forest Recreation Area, Walking paths, Trees.JPG
- If you're asking about the Cycas, I can not tell what species that is in the image. There are about 95 different Cycas and I'm no expert on those, sorry. Uleli (talk) 22:26, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
I discovered today that The World Checklist of Selected Plant Families does not contain Pteridopsida species. How come a site like this, doesn't have them? Regards. DenesFeri (talk) 10:29, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
- WCL is a work in progress and it does not contain all plants. To my knowledge, there is no global list of these plants. But you can consult different floras and specialized sites as for example:
I'm looking for help to correctly identify this QI-candidate. As the botanical garden proclaimed it to be a rose cultivar (which I'm sure isn't correct), I suggested that it is a ranunculus cultivar based on the similarity to this picture. Though that seems to fit really well, I'd like to have that confirmed by somebody with more knowledge of plants before Poco a poco renames the picture... Can you help?
best regards, Anna reg (talk) 10:27, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
- Die Art ist variabel und die Blumen kann alle Schattierungen von weiß bis violett sein. Uleli (talk) 21:38, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- File:Falk Oberdorf Kniebrink 5.JPG
Hallo Uleli. Ich nehme an, bei der Bestimmung bist du sicher, oder? Dann sollte auch die Beschreibung angepasst werden. --Leyo 21:48, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Es gibt keine andere Art mit dieser Farbe in der Gegend ~~
- OK. Ich hatte drum mal angefragt (de:Wikipedia:Redaktion Biologie/Bestimmung/Archiv027#Unbestimmtes aus dem Rocky Mountain National Park), aber weiter als zur Gattung ging's nicht. --Leyo 23:07, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Hey Uleli, Why you named the File Hylotelephium 'Herbstfreude' and not Hylotelephium telephium subsp. telephium or Hylotelephium spectabile? What's in your opinion the difference?
- Your plant has no stamens. H. spectabile is similar but has stamens longer than the petals. H. telephium also has stamens, and much smaller inflorescenses than both the hybrid and H. spectabile. Compare:
Senecio erucifolius vs. Jacobaea erucifolia
According to the The Global Compositae Checklist  Senecio erucifolius  and Jacobaea erucifolia  are two different plant species, with two different homeranges S. erucifolius [http://compositae.landcareresearch.co.nz/default.aspx? Page=NameDetails&TabNum=0&NameId=1903cc9a-7c43-490c-8d00-2eea044155bf] and J. erucifolia . Could you tell me your opinion about this, please? Regards. DenesFeri (talk) 09:10, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
- There is no doubt that these two names represent the same plant. In the publication of Jacobaea erucifolia (L.) G.Gaertn. , B.Mey. & Scherb. there is a clear reference to Senecio erucifolius L. See , B.Mey. & Scherb., Oekon. Fl. Wetterau 3(1): 208. 1801, the refrence is onpage 209. Uleli (talk) 06:03, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Editor @ ar.wiki
Hello. I would like to inform you that I have granted you editor flag at the Arabic Wikipedia, all your edits there will be automatically marked as patrolled. Best regards.--Avocato (talk) 07:32, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Christmas and New Year