User talk:Vanjagenije

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I really won't disrupt anything.[edit]

Let me first give the full story for the background as to why I got blocked and why I kept making sock-accounts. This is only to provide background.

It all started with a single revert made by another user, in the real life situation I had limited time because I had to attend my youngest child who was sick 😷 at the time (I’m not asking for sympathy, or use this as a justification, only to explain my anger), I had originally planned to only edit for 5 minutes and then go away, my wife kept calling me “Don hurry up, Don hurry up” but then I as to my regret busy cussing at the reverter for not reading the description where I asked for a few minutes to be allowed to make another edit as mobile users can’t really edit whole pages but that’s a different story that would only distract from my plea.

After that I got into an argument with the user to which he showed no understanding or a willingness to wait as he had said that he felt no obligation to wait with reverting, after that I became more angry (something which I shouldn't have done and in the current light should’ve forced a wikibreak on myself) and at first I made an account with an u fortunate username wishing ill on that person, this was the first sock obviously it got deleted within minutes by an admin and after that I had noticed that there was no way for that account to appeal (couldn't edit its own talk page, e-mail, or other things) so just out curiosity I created a second sock to ask how one would be able to resolve such a situation with a message to respect mobile editors on its user page and before any question could get asked that account was blocked with the same restrictions. After which I started obsessively making new accounts names after the admin in question and I did make another account insulting the original reverter but immediately quite using it after realising how bad it was after a few minutes.

Now I did message the reverter a few times whenever I would make a similar edit and yes this was wrong and I fully understand it as such, I kept making subsequent accounts out of my autistic tendency (I am not asking for forgiveness on this fact) to have more “not blocked accounts” than blocked accounts, the accounts created then had names often completely picked at random with passwords equally picked at random causing me to forget them before I hit the button “create account”.

After I think a week I created the account Codename Alex purely to send barnstars to editors whose work I liked or wanted to make them feel better for their contributions to Wikipedia, after I had forgotten which random password I used for that account I “cloned” it with Sunshine Alexi to reward other editors, yes I also used this for 2 socks of mine but that was not because I hold any value to such rewards as I am only here to build an encyclopedia for the readers to enjoy and refer to, not to gather any vain points from anyone. I digress the socks made after these were again just random names with random messages often to respect mobile users but more often than not just random accounts I made because I gor addicted to creating them and trying to come up with a story or something to write on their userpages.

After getting upset that the image uploaded with the unfortunate username kept being deleted instead of simply filing an undeletion request (mostly because of a fear of getting blocked) I kept attempting to reupload it, however my last sock The Ivory Cowboy (or at least the last one I actively used) existed solely for editing purposes in order to evade any prior association and I wanted to do enough “good edits” with that account to try and convince the community that I was willing to get back on track before making an undeletion request. What got me “caught” however was when I responded to a thread at the village pump where one user wanted to change the policy WP:SOCKBLOCK and I confessed to having been blocked at multiple accounts and wanted to know how one could possibly appeal such a thing, in that message I had called the admins who deleted an image uploaded by a sock some less fortunate terms but for that I do not apologise as the copyright claim was unfounded however this is unrelated to the block.

The accounts and IPs were never used to convey false influence in deletion discussions or policy debates. Wikipedia does not work with a voting, nor did I attempt to use any sock for a false idea of support for any of the deletion debates I was participating in at the time. With the notable exception of the first sock with the most unfortunate name no other socks were deliberately disruptively editing Wikipedia nor did I ever vandalise any mainspace articles as I never once thought about doing our dear readers a disservice.

They did interact with each other on some occasions but that was only for insulting the user who had reverted me and if I were given the chance I would put a White Dove on his talk page hoping that he would forgive me for the wrongs I have done to him.

That was story of the socks.

I did not deliberately break policies while editing main articles, when I was hit with a copyright © strike by Dianaa I first civilly attempted to talk it out with her on her talk page and later attempted to re-insert the lost information completely reworded. I did not add any spam to Wikipedia, once though I was reverted by an anti-spam bot but after reverting that bot and leaving a few lengthy messages on its talk page the admin who operated it reviewed the situation and did not remove any of the links I had added. I just never blank my talk pages because I hate blanking.

6 months of not editing is a long time. That is to say that the standard offer doesn't work I several ways. Mainly because whenever I see an error or an unsourced peace in Wikipedia or an article needing improvement I almost immediately click on the “Edit” button, if I weren't allowed on English Wikipedia I already see myself constantly pinging random editors who had edited that page on other projects to ask them to implement some random change which would be both uncomfortable for me as for the user, sometimes at night I am thinking of ways to improve existing articles or fantasising about creating new articles, if I wouldn’t be able to do that I would probably get mad but that is not the reason why I am requesting to get unblocked. I am just commenting on why I do not want to take the standard offer and try to get a Template:2nd chance or at least a temporary unblock to prove my conduct and edit again.

Let me copy my past requests for unblocks here and explain why they aren’t as “frivolous” as they might seem.

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“So I only got blocked because again I asked why I got blocked in the first place?”

This was asked why all subsequent accounts after the first one with the less than appealing name got instantly blocked even as they did not make any disruptions other than 1 account praising some insults, on the thread I did ask why I kept getting blocked because the original block was solely about a username violation, however I understand that the main reason for getting blocked was evading the original block, not the sockpuppets asking for the block.

“I literally said that I stopped making any attempts at vandalizing. Why was I blocked? 2405:4800:1484:9559:4927:6ABD:69A:C5E3 (talk) 15:05, 1 August 2017 (UTC) If you look at my latest edits all I did was talk about policies and aak for an image to be restored nothing more.”

This was because of the aforementioned thread on WP:SOCKBLOCK where I had admitted to my socks but stated that I had not made any vandalising socks since the ones where I had impersonated an admin (well, borrowed the name, only after the 6th attempt did I impersonate him), and any edits made as The Ivory Cowboy qualify as such, all I did was talk about policies and wanted to know how I could restore an image that was unjustfully deleted because of a copyright violation.

The Ivory Cowboy

“I do understand why I got blocked and I have not made any disruptive edits in weeks as I had a dispute with another user that has now been resolved. I will not edit any talk pages if that is where I am more prone to insults if you really don't trust me or if I simply break that policy again you may block me I indefinitely forever but you could at least give me a second chance the only reason I made this account is because no prior account could appeal a block because the first one I made had a bad username but if you look at the editing history of me as TIC you will not see any disruptions whatsoever nor am I planning on making them, you can watch me intensively for years believe me I have learned my lesson all I did was ask why my educational image got deleted on a phoney copyright claim and I do not apologize for calling that childish by the sysops that did because they could have blacklisted it to restrict it to one wikipedia page but they chose to delete it and that would rightfully make me upset but I have not made any disruptive edits since my bad username got blocked”

This is me explaining why I kept making more socks, and that I was angry at the image being deleted but I will simply make an undeletion request regarding it. And I could not appeal any block with any prior account, the main reason why I even created The Ivory Cowboy was to appeal the older blocks by showcasing that my edits weren’t disruptive while I didn't want to risk my account with my real name on it, which in retrospect was wrong and I know that it is WP:EVASION, but if I really believed that evasion would work I would be doing that right now and not writing the appeal, I even circumvented cookie block in order to see if it was possible and created an account called “Testing simplicity” solely as a test to see if it were possible but did not make any edits with it, as a sign of trust I am admitting that I COULD break my block and utilise randomised hardware settings and avoid the articles I had edited with a new account, but I choose to appeal because I have genuinely learned my lesson, why else would I confess to being able to circumvent this block but still choose to appeal it after being denied it several times?

A block works as a preventive measure, not a punitive one and not allowing me to edit for at least 6 months doesn't help anyone, articles that would otherwise be improved will remain unedited, and 6 months from now my stance on not wanting to sock again won’t have changed, I simply do not want to make any other accounts other than this one, and I only want the ability to build an encyclopedia, not to make random profiles again, I abused that option and do not wish to regain it, but I did not abuse editing mainspace articles and blocking me prevents me from contributing. Currently me being blocked does not benefit anyone, I will not make any sockpuppets and even request a specific category for my sock puppets to be created which would appear next to my signature so anyone would know what I did, it's about winning trust back from the community but in the end I am just here to help improve the website.

I plea to be given a Template:2nd chance or a conditional unblock where I am not allowed to make any new accounts or deliberately edit as an IP. I only want to help improve Wikipedia. At least please allow me to not get banned globally.

I wold like to appeal to unblocks are cheap,

But if you really don't think that you can trust I would like to request alternative options.

1) I get to edit my own talk page, I will not immediately make an appeal for unblock but I will try to contact the people I have wronged and ask them for forgiveness, I know that the policy specifically states that asking for forgiveness isn't necessary for an unblock but I do wish to show my sincerity in that I know that what I did was wrong, I will then only request another appeal after a few days or a week.

2) Otherwise be allowed to contact an administrator to lay down my options. Or to discuss other possibilities like degrading my block to a ban (be it an interaction ban or a general talk page ban)

--Donald Trung (Talk 💬) (Socks 🎭) 14:14, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

All I really want is a second chance, I confessed to everything and the problem was my socking not my editing, I really just want to be able to help contribute, I got carried away last month but I really won't ever repeat itm --14:17, 2 August 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donald Trung (talk • contribs) 14:17, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Or at least allow me to try to talk with a Steward, I really am committed to the 1 person, 1 account policy. How can I prove this? Not being there for 6 months doesn't prove anything, only that I left everyone alone, please allow me to improve Wikimedia projects, that's all I am asking. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) (Socks 🎭) 14:40, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

please see User talk:Ellin Beltz, I really am committed to making sure that none of my mistakes will be repeated, a block is only justified if I would but I won't. Donald Trung (Talk 💬) (Socks 🎭) 14:42, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

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