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Hi! I see there are 8 pictures of yours in the Plebejus idas page. May I ask what made you identify these butterflies as Plebejus idas? I know the European populations of this species quite well and they always have much stronger markings on the underside. As far as I can see online, this is also true for American populations. Am I missing anything?--LamBoet (talk) 00:25, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
- LamBoet, thank you for commenting on the markings of this species. I relied on the field guide, "Butterflies through Binoculars: The West" (2001) by Jeffrey Glassberg, Pages 122-124. Figure 1 captioned "Northern Blue (Washington) is a good match to my individuals. Figure 3 captioned "Northern Blue (Montana)" depicts much stronger markings on the underside. Northern Blue individuals could be confused with Melissa Blue or Acmon Blue, although these species are generally found farther east. The text says, "... individual Northern Blues are usually paler and less well-marked than Melissa Blues. Look especially for the bluish-white ground color, whiter than the smoky-gray ground color of Melissa Blues." "[Acmon Blue (below)] HW black marginal line is not swollen at the veins." Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 17:11, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
- Hi, thank you for this detailed answer. I don't have your field guide, but after doing my own research in the meantime, I think your butterflies actually belong to another, more lightly marked species called Plebejus anna. From what I read here, P. idas and P. anna are closely related and were treated as one single species up until recently, and they can be distinguished by range, with P. anna being the one inhabiting Washington state. So, is it possible that the Plebejus idas described in your book still encompasses both P. idas and P. anna? In any case, I think your pictures should be labeled as Plebejus anna. Best, --LamBoet (talk) 18:01, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
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- Thank you, George. All the best to you and your family in 2017. Walter Siegmund (talk) 16:00, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
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- Responded. Walter Siegmund (talk) 02:40, 16 February 2017 (UTC)