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Image:Floppy-mfm-preindexgap.PNG[edit]

I consider this image *my* work.

The program this has been taken from was just the tool to provide that work, in the same sense as you could e.g. use Adobe Photoshop or Microsoft Visio or whatever to prepare other own works. The focus of the image is the waveform displayed in it, not just the appearance of the GUI of the tool. This tool has a "Make screenshot" menu entry in its "Edit" menu, so this is a strong indication that taking a screenshot is their intented way of the user to get a picture of their current waveform, along with all the other things (markers, signal names, timing scale, measurements) that are needed and useful to take along with the actual waveform itself. User:Dl8dtl

Beside that, screenshots made on the Windows plateform are deleted because they include elements of Windows design,...
This is pointless. I'm a big fan of opensource software, and have been contributing to opensource for more than 15 years now. Why do you believe would an opensource license then to also grant you any further rights in distributing screenshots of it? I've never seen a license that would cover that detail. But if you prefer to be a politician: OK, fine by me. I'm not willing to argue a couple of hours about each of my work (which already took me hours to prepare), so I'm simply not going to contribute to you. Please delete my account. I wish there were a method to authenticate this my wish here (as there is in plain old email).

Algarve[edit]

Please explain why you removed Image:Algarve.gif. It's my map, which I uploaded to be used with a CC license by anyone who needs it. PtCarma 14:13, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

> No, this is not your map. It is made by a telephone company which owns the copyright.

No, I'm sorry, you jumped to conclusions. Viajar * Clix is a joint venture between Clix (an internet provider which belongs to a company, Sonaecom, that also owns a phone provider, Novis) and Semantix (a contents provider of which I'm the owner and manager). All contents is my property.

I'm allowing everybody (online and offline) to use my maps for free. Why not release them at once to the world as CC and put them up where they can be found more easily, i.e., Wikipedia?

This users includes online media like personal or commercial sites, but also local government sites and even hard media, like newspapers, and even prints on the sides of cars and trucks of companies. All I ask is an attibution, which makes everybody happy.

For some of the online uses, have a look at http://www.google.com/search?q=mapa+viajar+clix (you may have to try different language servers to see the whole lot). I regret to say that many people don't follow the attribution rules, but I don't care. Why would I?

RanXerox[edit]

Salut:

j'ai l'autorization de l'autor dans mon e-mail. Je ne sais pas comme faire cette, mais je pense que es tot correcte --Ferbr1 23:54, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Je ne comprende pas l'angles. Parlez-moi en francais s'il vous plait. J'ai l'autorization de l'autor, --Ferbr1 00:06, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Bonjour:

J'ai envoyé l'autorization pour e-mail a permissions-commons@wikimedia.org

Pouvez vous change la demande de supression?

Merci beaucoup, et excuxez moi pour mon francais. --Ferbr1 18:40, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Pourquoi effacer Image:Park Avenue by LR.jpg[edit]

Bonjour,

C'est une photo personnel que j'ai prise lors d'un voyage, je ne comprends pas pourquoi vous l'avez effacée !! User:Lreich

Vous dites que je dois envoyer une copie ... mais de quoi ? de la photo ? Cette photo appartient au site www.carnets-de-voyages.net dont je suis le créateur et le webmaster.

Robbert Meeder[edit]

hi Yann,

You recommended for removal a picture of Robbert Meeder. This picture was given to me by Robbert Meeder himself and he said I was free to use if if I mentioned the name of the photographer - which I did. I will contact him again and ask him for the email address of the photographer so he can give me permission himself. Please give me a few days to handle this and don't remove the picture right now.

Radiofan, March 26 2007

Hi Yann,

I contacted the organization Robbert Meeder works for, National Dutch Broadcasting (NOS). They assure me that there is no copyright on the photograph that was made on their request. It can freely be used on the internet:

"Dag Jeanne,

Het is in orde. De foto's van Leendert Jansen voor de NOS zijn rechtenvrij, ook de foto die hij van Robbert Meeder heeft gemaakt.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Marianne Klip NOS Communicatie 035 - 677 5745"

translation: Dear Jeanne (Radiofan), It is all right. The photographs Leendert Jansen made for the NOS are free of copyright. This goes for rhe photo he made of Robbert Meeder as well. Yours truly, Marianne Klip.

Now I hope you will lift the removal ban on this photo.

Best wishes, Jeanne March 26, 2007 11.26

Images I've just uploaded[edit]

I've uploaded 3 images (Positive Vibrations cover and 2 versions of the same photo of the singer Misty Woods). I thought I'd marked them up correctly but I'm new to Wikimedia images so I assume I've done it wrong. I'm the designer and copyright owner of the magazine cover, and am uploading the photograph with consent of both the photographer and subject - can you advise how I should correctly tag them so they don't get deleted? (I'm not very keen to put my real name on them as attribution, as I've attracted quite a few stalkers at Wikipedia, but can do if necessary.)

Many thanks Iridescenti 19:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Newbie[edit]

Merci pour l'accueil ! J'ai quelques contributions, quand même ;D mais ça fait plaisir ! Meanos 19:25, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Delete[edit]

Please delete the Sari.jpg image, i upload it and now i think it is bulk since there is the same image in en wikipedia, i will move that image to here, Thank You, --Ali1986 00:39, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

CU query[edit]

Hi Yann. I placed a couple of CU requests at the bottom of Gmaxwell talk page (User_talk:Gmaxwell), the ones with today's date. I guess they are not urgent but if you felt like doing them, thanks - otherwise they can wait. Regards --Herby talk thyme 12:00, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Image:Finnan.jpg[edit]

Why did you add a copyvio tag to Image:Finnan.jpg? It's a straight public domaince licence so there should be no problem. // Liftarn

Hello,
This image seems to be a cropped version of http://www.flickr.com/photos/philchambers/36761885/. Regards, Yann 14:20, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, it says so in the description. The cropped version is distrubuted according to another license. // Liftarn
Hello, Are you Phil Chambers ? Yann 18:43, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
No, but Alistair Hart (en:User:Alii h) have as far as I can tell been given the rigths to distrubute the cropped version under another license. // Liftarn

Image:Saumur Église Saint-Pierre.jpg[edit]

Salut. A quoi sert le message d'avertissement de MECU à 18:54, 29 March 2007 (UTC) suivi de cette suppression à 01:17, 30 March 2007 soit 6 h 23 après ! Je ne passe pas mes soirées devant Wikimedia. Dans mon dico, je changerais la traduction de soon en immédiatement. Surtout pour une image qui doit être là depuis qq mois (31/12/2006 si j'en crois l'historique de l'article Saumur) ! Les façons de faire de certains dont vous faites partie m'inquiètent. Vous finissez sûrement par en dégouter qq-uns avec vos karcherisationsagissements à la..., à la... (zut, j'ai oublié le nom du ministre de l'Intérieur qui vient de démissionner) ! Au fait, vous vous occuperez bien aussi de supprimer l'image de la galerie de l'article, n'est-ce pas ! Re-salut, ℍenry (Jaser !) 06:42, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Image:PostalService cover300dpi.jpg[edit]

Hi Yann, why did you delete this picture as "copyvio"? There was a permission email archived at OTRS (which is the standard process according to Special:Upload). What was wrong with this permission? Please give me a short answer here, I'll watch your discussion page. Thanks. --Svencb 06:51, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for restoring! --Svencb 09:02, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Company's Logo Upload doubts[edit]

I'm trying to upload my company's corporate logo but it was deleted yesterday, I have their authorization to upload it and use it in yhr company's wikipedia page.

I've uploaded today again but two big warning messages were displayed in the image's page. "This page or file may meet the criteria for speedy deletion."

If you could be so kind to help me in this issue. As I said I've the company's permission to upload the logo. I've tried to see how other logos were licensed but their page like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:SAP_logo.png does not present the license, only the logo template is present. But as far as I've seeing marking the image as a logo has no relation with it's license.

Any help would be most appreciated.

My company's logo is at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Atech_Corporation_Logo.jpg

The company's page is http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atech (Sorry it's only in Brazilian Portuguese by now) Bpfurtado 13:34, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Please see the new Image:Atech Corporation Logo.PNG and feel free to update it.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 22:23, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Image:Arkas2 A rat in my soup (cover).jpg[edit]

Hi Yann, you deleted this picture as "copyvio". Following my discussion with Bryan, I sent the relevant email at OTRS, info-el@wikipedia.org (the email is in Greek). Please restore it or let me know if there is still a problem (I know that I forgot to change the wording, I will change it when it is on again. Thanks. --FocalPoint 16:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you.--FocalPoint 07:24, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

CU access granted[edit]

Per votes and request on meta, CU access granted. --Dbl2010 03:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Image:Thescelosaurus_BW.jpg[edit]

Why did you tag this image as unsourced? I am the author of the image and it says so in the information box. It also has the appropriate PD-self tag. ArthurWeasley 02:42, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Sources[edit]

Hello, the sources of my scans are clearly mentioned in each summary's |Source= line. Did I inadvertently forget to fill one in? Best, W. C. Minor 18:26, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Image:Kalender.jpg[edit]

You missed this screenshot by Aiman fayez when you deleted his other copyvio.--Kruosio 21:43, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Copyvio[edit]

I'm trying to find where did I fault in the template for you have deleted my upload. Could you explain?

Becar 19:01, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Template:PD-Brazil-FOP should suit your purposes.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 19:49, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Your reverts[edit]

I removed the categories Horses an Equus caballus of all horse-pictures, which are in a gallery or category which is in one of these categories itself, because in both categories there were more than 200 pictures. Why did You revert these edits? Kersti 17:59, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Photo Sarkozy[edit]

OK mais alors pourquoi tu ne supprimes pas non plus celle d'Hervé Gaymard qui provient du même site et dont les indications sont les mêmes ?? Vpe 19:00, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

elle est ici Image:Hervé Gaymard.jpg

Why was File:Tikal (sonic).jpg deleted?[edit]

Hi there. You deleted an image uploaded (and draw) by me, but another user User_talk:GeorgHH put the tag, so I'm not sure to who should I present my case. Well, in any case I put the link to his discussion page with my petition. Best Regards (it's the only saudation I know in english) Rafael

Ok, I saw that requirements here in commons are different from those on Portuguese Wikipedia. Derivative Works, I see. But, well, two days still is a very short time do deletion...

Image:Jacqueline_Poelman.jpg[edit]

Hello Yann, I saw that you proposed the Image:Jacqueline_Poelman.jpg for deletion, because there was no license information filled in on her page. This is to let you know, that I uploaded this image after having received the confirmation from the photographer, that he allowed me to use this photo under Creative Commons license: Attribution - ShareAlike 2.5 (Dutch version). I sent this information to the contact point for Wikipedia in The Netherlands and they gave me permission to upload this photo into Wikimedia Commons (see also the ticket no. mentioned on the page). Now obviously something went wrong during the uploading procedure, because I thought I had done everything in the way it was prescribed. Since then I have been trying in vain to restore the license info on the page, but didn't succeed up to now (it is all completely new to me, you know). Could you advise me how to prevent deletion of this image? Thanks in advance, best regards,--Piet.Wijker 10:53, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Yann for your help (see also my User Talk page). Regards,--Piet.Wijker 11:18, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Image:PortrattVit3.jpg[edit]

You deleted this though its obviously is not a copyvio, but simply a matter of definition. Did you even read what i typed on the discussion page of the person who put the template there? Why did you not notice me on why the picture was deleted? Please reply on my talk page Notwist 11:26, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Just noticing you that i have replied on my talk page Notwist 12:56, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Hello! I mailed the permission yesterday, I'm not sure if I did it correctly but perhaps you could look into it in some way? Notwist 09:30, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Image:ThaliaVisionExpo2007.jpg[edit]

Hi, I've added the link to the Author's permission on the page of the image. I don't know if it is enough, if not, I've also written to permissions@wikimedia.org so they give me a "ticket" number. Regards, --TheMexican 15:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Hi, thank you for the welcome message. Some of the info has already come in handy. Gregorydavid 07:29, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

CU[edit]

Hi, could you check whether Hctp (talk · contribs) has more sock puppets? See Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard#Abusive_sock -- Bryan (talk to me) 16:17, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

A question to the administrator[edit]

Hello. Can I change the licence of a photo released to the Commons from PD-self to cc-by-2.5? I would appreciate the honest answer. --213.199.192.60 00:19, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

About Image:Scott Speed 2006 April cropped.jpg[edit]

I want to know a reason why you deleted this image. Thank you.--Morio 02:31, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Current reason: Scott Speed's Toro Rosso V10 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! currently shows a link to incompatible Some rights reserved.
Past reasons: User:Para/Flickr/Licensing differences/Incompatible shows that Image Scott Speed 2006 April cropped.jpg with Flickr id 136574387 had a Commons license of "cc-by-sa-2.0" on 2007-02-07, but an incompatible "Cc-by-nc-2.0" license on Flickr from 2006-10-02 to 2007-02-19. User:FlickreviewR/log#Review log of 22:16, 21 January 2007 (UTC) shows "File:Scott Speed 2006 April cropped.jpg 10:35, 01 May 2007 JPEG_ERROR 2 paulwoolrich 136574387". Similarly, further back in time, User:FlickreviewR/log/archive-12#Review log of 12:43, 5 January 2007 (UTC) shows "File:Scott Speed 2006 April cropped.jpg 12:35, 05 January 2007 JPEG_ERROR 2 paulwoolrich 136574387". Similarly, further back in time, User:FlickreviewR/log/archive-7#Review log of 18:06, 26 December 2006 (UTC) shows "File:Scott Speed 2006 April cropped.jpg 17:54, 26 December 2006 NO_EXIF 2 paulwoolrich 136574387".
"Cc-by-nc-2.0" precludes commercial use, which is incompatible with Commons.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 20:15, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


Boris Becker pic[edit]

I have added info re my photograph of Boris Becker as requested. PaddyBriggs 06:36, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Image:SaraBaniere.jpg[edit]

Image deletion warning Image:SaraBaniere.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this image, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. If the file is up for deletion because it has been superseded by a superior derivative of your work, consider the notion that although the file may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new file.
In all cases, please do not take the deletion request personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

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Category:Geneva[edit]

Bonjour,

Les noms propres dans les noms de catégories sont choisis d'après les titres des articles correspondants du Wikipédia anglophone. Pour un nom de lieu, la (ou les) langue(s) parlée(s) par les éventuels habitants n'entrent pas en ligne de compte. Par exemple, ประเทศไทย (un lieu que tu connais certainement) est autorisé pour la page (gallerie), mais pas pour la catégorie correspondante, parce que cela compliquerait l'identification du sujet, et obligerait à la création de nombreuses redirections. --Juiced lemon 16:32, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

C'est justement ça que je conteste. Ça me semble totalement injustifié. Yann 10:29, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Au contraire, c'est justifié par de nombreuses raisons. La plus évidente est la nécessité d'un document de référence accessible, quelle que soit la langue maternelle de l'utilisateur, afin d'établir la correspondance entre un sujet donné et le titre de la catégorie de Commons contenant les fichiers média relatifs à ce sujet.
Wikimedia Commons n'a pas vocation à réunir des compétences encyclopédiques, et donc à établir un tel document de référence. Nous avons les encyclopédies Wikipedia sous la main mais, à défaut d'une table de correspondance nous disant laquelle choisir en fonction du sujet, nous en sommes réduit à n'en choisir qu'une seule, qui sera donc la Wikipedia anglophone.
Tu croyais peut-être que la correspondance était triviale. Aussi, parmi les nombreux exemples disponibles, je prendrai celui de la ville de Perpignan : cela fait plus d'un an que des catalans d'Espagne entretiennent une guerre d'édition pour que la catégorie correspondante soit Category:Perpinyà (dont je demande la suppression, une fois de plus).
Je pense qu'il y a suffisamment de personnes qui s'occupent de bien choisir les noms des articles de la Wikipedia anglophone. Pourquoi devrions nous dupliquer cette activité peu intéressante dans Wikimedia Commons ? Les contributeurs actifs de Wikimedia Commons sont en faible nombre ; aussi, leur temps est précieux et, à mon avis, devrait être réservé aux seules tâches vraiment nécessaires. --Juiced lemon 19:19, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

deleting pages in my userspace[edit]

Please do not delete pages in my userspace. Thank you! --ALE! ¿…? 12:56, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: Image:Ramanujan.jpg[edit]

I would argue that being "from fr:Wikipedia" is not a valid source, which is why I deleted it. MECUtalk 00:23, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Merci![edit]

Bon soir, Yann,

and merci beaucoup for your welcome on my discussion page. (Sorry, that's practically all of my French!) Yours, --wg 21:17, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Good luck[edit]

for the Board election. It may be sad for Commons to lose an admin to the Board, but at least we will feel "well represented". :) cheers --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 04:39, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Call to arms[edit]

Hi Yann. I write to you and all other users listed on the Welcome log helpers list, except for EugeneZelenko this Call to arms. The reason for it is that I have seen very little activity on the project by you. Because of this we have most probably failed to check the contributions of thousands of new users and have not been able to inform them of the practices on Wikimedia Commons in a timely fashion, causing more work for us and the contributor later in the process.

I would like to urge you to make a habit of checking at least 10 or so new user's contributions from the Commons:Welcome log each day you are active here. We welcome about 200 new users with contributions each day and we currently have 19 users on the helpers list. You can find links to some helpful scripts on the welcome log page, that are likely to make your life a lot easier. If there are no users to be checked that have been welcomed today, please attend to a previous log. Thank you for your renewed attention. Cheers! Siebrand 12:21, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Special:Undelete/Image:Logoadv.gif[edit]

+ Special:Log/delete

à mettre en rapport avec le ticket OTRS consacré à cette « ADV », ticket que je n'ai pas été en mesure de clore (après m'être occupé du seul article sur Wikipédia) puisque le « volet Commons » restait à traiter. Hégésippe | ±Θ± 17:39, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Les bâtiments de France[edit]

Bonjour, ci joint une copie de [1]

Je pense qu'il ne faut faut pas attendre et supprimer, c'est à nous administrateurs de langue française à donner cette dynamique et de protéger les contributeurs... Supprimons ces images maintenant. Je suis prêt à le faire, les ai repérées pour la plupart, j'avais commencé à les tager copviomais faute d'un soutient communautaire je suis dans l'impasse (si j'obtiens ce soutient je supprimerai sans tager).

Et voici la copie (c'est à propos de Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Louvre DSC00662.JPG) :

La législation française, la législation italienne nous sont trés défavorables. Il existe pourtant en France une jurisprudence, de la cour de cassation (ce qui n'est pas rien) qui pourrait nous être favorable. Je pense que tu minimises l'importance architecturale de l'oeuvre de Buren et cie qui a été reconnue par la cour. L'espace qui est aujourd'hui occupé par l'entrée du musée du Louvre avec sa pyramide, ses bassins et fontaines, LXIV cavalier par Mr Le Bernin, sans doute le rond-point et en tout cas les premiers bosquets du jardin des Tulleries ne peuvent être distribués sous les termes de la GFDL. Mais je pense que cet ensemble est comme le dit la cour de cassation fondu et intriqué dans dans un lieu relevant du domaine public (La Grande Arche non merci). On a ici un bel aprés-midi d'été dans dans un lieu relevant du domaine public. Aussi je pense que nous devrions garder cette image au moins le temps de supprimer toutes les autres. Ce qui est loin d'être fait car j'avais commencé, on a l'embarra du choix, mais, depuis que l'on m'a demandé de passer par une demande de surpression dont je m'étonne qu'elle n'ait pas abouti : Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Tour Montparnasse, Paris.jpg, je suis dans l'impasse. Je m'étonne du manque de réactivité de la communauté (y compris dur irc) sur ce problème bien qu'au final je ne me fasse aucune illusion quand à la la suppression des ces photos. Pourtant cet arrêt de la cour de cassation, qui ne s'applique qu'à de rares endroits, nous est favorable et je pense qu'il l'est pour le Louvre coté Tulleries et j'irais même jusqu'à penser (même je ne prendrais pas ce risque) que celle-ci pourrait l'être. Par contre celles de l'intérieur et celles de la renversée... Jette un oeil à la catégorie Category:Louvre Pyramid. Je rève d'un moment où, lorsque les cités radieuses s'écroulent, on pourrait s'accrocher aux maigres barreaux blancs que nous offrent Buren. Le plus drôle c'est qu'aujourd'hui on ait aucune photos de la place des terraux burénisée...

Lorsque la Fondation sera mieux outillée juridiquement dans la défense du contenu qu'elle héberge et peut-être des contributeurs qui le créent, elle tranchera ces quelques incertitudes.

Pour l'instant, nous nous devons de supprimer et de garder vigilance sur les cas évidents.

Merci de votre prise de conscience. Petrusbarbygere 20:59, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:Erik Mongrain2.jpg npd?[edit]

Dear Yann,

On 28 March 2007 you placed an {npd} template with this image saying "permission is coming". I have not seen this permission since that day, so could you please tell me what I missed? Or has the template just been removed from the image without any permission being given?

The website that is mentioned as the image's source clearly says (c) so it seems as if this image is a copyvio...

Kind regards, Erik1980 00:00, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Requesting Permission to Publish Photo[edit]

Hello. We would like to publish this image of "Traffic jam between Nasik and Bombay, January 2007" in a Sociology textbook. Would you please contact me at jillenge@yahoo.com for details? I would like to obtain your permission to publish this photo. Thank you. -Jill

Image:Timbpt2.jpg[edit]

Hi, you marked Image:Timbpt2.jpg for deletion but did not give a reason. Could you go back, add a reason and follow the rest of the steps on the template so the image can be considered for deletion? At the moment it is sitting in "Incomplete deletion requests" and is NOT processed. Thank you. Deadstar 08:18, 5 July 2007 (UTC)


Image deletion warning Image:Timbpt2.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this image, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. If the file is up for deletion because it has been superseded by a superior derivative of your work, consider the notion that although the file may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new file.
In all cases, please do not take the deletion request personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

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  — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 06:16, 8 July 2007 (UTC)


Image:Gv_19471029_24_04.ogg[edit]

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Broken Chair[edit]

Salut Yann.
Merci d'avoir ajouté quelques images concernant la Genève internationale. Concernant Image:Chair Palais des Nations Geneva.jpg, voir la page w:fr:Broken Chair.
Suite à une correspondance avec le propriétaire actuel de la chaise (Handicap International), et donc de l'oeuvre, et donc des images y relatives ... j'ai renoncé il y a quelques temps à mettre une photo. Ils exigent que l'image montre la chaise dans l'axe du Palais des Nations, sans quoi l'oeuvre perdrait son sens symbolique ... ils m'ont assuré qu'une photo serait diffusée cette année. Depuis, pas de nouvelles. Bref, pas motivant.
D'autre part, la Chaise toute seule me semble devoir figurer sous Monuments et non sous Organisations internationales.
Qu'en penses-tu ? -- MHM-com 14:37, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Hi, thanks for your welcome in Commons. --Docekat 06:14, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

And the name is...[edit]

...César Navarro Miranda

Found!!

. The source http://www.eldiario.net/noticias/nt070614/2_12plt.php I must say that User:Ejmeza was who found the name. Alhen .::··¨ 18:49, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


Image:Nehru family.jpg[edit]

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Autorisation sur une image[edit]

Bonjour, j'ai commencé une discussion avec Samilili a ce propos (voir : Discussion). C'est suite à son conseil que je contacte un administrateur francophone.

Il me semble qu'il n'est pas possible d'importer dans Wikipedia Commons des images qui ne soient pas totalement libre, y compris pour des besoins commerciaux. Est-ce le cas ?

D'autre part, est-ce que cette politique s'applique uniformément, en particulier sur Wikipedia en français ? Compte-tenu de l'autorisation (restreinte à l'usage sur Wikipedia) de l'auteur, y a-t-il quelque chose d'adapté ?

Merci d'éclairer ma lanterne. Sylfide 17:16, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Commons:Undeletion_requests/Current_requests#Image:Nelly_van_Doesburg_Mondriaan_HannahHoch_1924.jpg[edit]

--Polarlys 22:36, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

French books[edit]

Salut Yann. Effectivement je n'avais pas pensé à cette interprétation. Je trouve quand même que le nom prête à confusion. Peut-être que Category:Books in French serait plus clair ? Est-ce que tu sais ce qui est fait pour d'autres langues parlées dans plusieurs pays, comme l'anglais ou l'allemand ? Jastrow (Λέγετε) 10:36, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Les formes adjectivales sont fortement déconseillées dans ce projet (voir Commons:By location category scheme). Attention aussi de ne pas confondre oeuvre littéraire et livre, le livre étant un produit commercial, support de diffusion d'une ou plusieurs oeuvres littéraires ou artistiques.
Sauf erreur de ma part, les premiers livres publiés en France étaient écrits en latin et en grec. Les oeuvres littéraires importantes étant fréquemment traduites dans diverses langues, une catégorie sur les livres publiés en français me paraît n'avoir qu'un intérêt marginal. --Juiced lemon 11:48, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

fair use et les captures d'ecran de jeux[edit]

Bonjour, j'essaye de savoir ce qu'il en est des captures d'ecran concernant des jeux non libres.
Il me semble que la notion de fair use n'est pas accepté sur [fr], qu-en-est-il exactement?
J'ai essayé de chercher dans les diverses prises de décision et je ne sais pas trop quoi penser...
Je me suis posé la question suite à l'ajout d'une capture d'ecran sur un article que je suis ( fr:dota ),
il me semble qu'à la base le fair use autorise cette capture, maintenant fr.wikipedia ne l'acceptant pas, si j'ai bien compris, cela reste problèmatique.
Peut on considerer que la lecture de http://www.blizzard.co.uk/legalfaq.shtml résoud le problème, je me réfere à cette phrase:

"Blizzard Entertainment® hereby grants you a personal, non-exclusive, non-transferable and non- assignable license to use and display, for home, noncommercial and personal use only, one copy of any material and/or software that you may download from this site, including, but not limited to, any files, codes, audio or images incorporated in or generated by the software (collectively the "Downloaded Content") provided, however, that you must include or maintain all copyright and other notices contained or associated with such Downloaded Content. "

Les screenshots afferant aux jeux blizzards peuvent ils être sur common ou non?
Si tu as un point de vue sur la question merci par avance.
Esby 18:07, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi...[edit]

... and thanks for your wellcome! --Gurgut 08:17, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/All images uploaded by User:Aliboron[edit]

Hi. Regarding this edit, there are still about 7 images in Aliboron's Gallery. Did you mean to imply that these images, too, should or should not be deleted? If you meant that they should be deleted, please delete them. Thanks!   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs|Administrator nom) 12:18, 31 August 2007 (UTC)


Image:Cesarosofo.jpg[edit]

Recently I followed a portrait here in Commons. After reading the downloader's comment and checking the log of the image I discovered that the picture was previously deleted twice by Pfctdayelise and you because of lack of source. Now the image has got its source and license and has been kept in Commons since 1st Feb. As it is legal now, could you or Pfctdayelise please restore the full history of the image so that the whole process can be followed by anyone? If you have any comments please leave them here because my IP address is dynamic. Thanks -89.168.29.153 00:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

And could you explain what did you mean with the comment "promo image"?. Thanks once again. --Cesarosofo 00:27, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Could you? Please. Thanx --Cesarosofo 00:30, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
I have added {{information}} and translated the description for you, so hopefully the deletion does not happen again.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 18:42, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Merci pour la bienvenue[edit]

Oui, merci. Et tiens, un francophone, ce n'est pas commun sur les sites de Wiki Foundation, non !? Bah, ca fera deux avec nous. A+ ;-) Morgoth666 09:28, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Aristote 2[edit]

Cher Yann, j'avais voté pour toi, il y a quelques semaines. As-tu été élu ? Sinon, tu me demandais (en anglais) de me présenter surtout au niveau des langues. J'ignore le code pour indiquer que je lis le grec ancien absolument couramment... N'hésite pas à intervenir sur ma page de présentation. Cordialement, --Aristote2 20:28, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

for welcoming me here at the Commons. Hedwig von Ebbel 09:44, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:Lord Ram.jpg[edit]

Hello Yann, I just saw you restored the image but forgot to provide a reason. Could you please tell me the source of information that managed to keep the image. Thanks, Noddy93 23:37, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:Logo_01_tartu.PNG[edit]

What was the reason of deleting of given image?--Hendrixeesti 11:50, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Guess, that I put wrong tag to this trademarked logo, template:logo instead of temlpate:trademarked. So it's safe to upload this image under better name like: File:Logo of Tartu.png --Raul6 09:44, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
The issue is not the name. If you have the permission to publish this logo under a free licence, please send a copy to permissions@wikimedia.org Thanks, Yann 10:16, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Yesterday I sent this permission to "permissions@wikimedia.org"--Hendrixeesti 11:26, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Done. Yann 19:51, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks.--Hendrixeesti 04:28, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


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CU case[edit]

Given the log entries will you be dealing with this case? Thanks --Herby talk thyme 15:48, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes I noticed in the log. Will you answer the case, it seems silly someone else running the checks again, thanks --Herby talk thyme 17:47, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Having discussed this by email with Bryan & Larry we would appreciate it if you would deal with this case. Either you found no evidence in which case please say so or you found some or all were puppets in which case this needs dealing with. Thanks --Herby talk thyme 08:11, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
I agree. I can run the checks if I HAD to, or Herby could, etc... but it would be a waste, if the results are already known. Just report the results if you still have them and other admins can do the blocks if there are any needed... thanks muchly, appreciate your efforts on behalf of the project, as always. ++Lar: t/c 14:25, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Image:Nude_Descending_a_Staircase.jpg[edit]

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Question[edit]

Hi I uploaded a picture of my own work and I would like to delete it because it has my full name in it. I would consider uploading it at another time with out my name in it. I am very confused because I am not a commons expert, can you help me out? Here is the picture http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Coalsludge.JPG Bronayur 00:47, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Merci[edit]

Pour tes riches contributions comme celle-ci :

Rondel au monogramme de Laurens Girard Attribué à Jean Fouquet, vers 1450-1460 Vitrail grisaille, diamètre : 20 cm Paris, musée national du Moyen Âge - Cluny Photo RMN - H..

Cordialement. -- Perky 12:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


Image:Narayan_Desai_face.jpg[edit]

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deletion request{{Anonymous work}}[edit]

May you take a look here [2]

and give Your opinion in the subject ?

Best regards

Andros64 08:47, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

This is nine months too late, but thanks for welcoming me! I haven't logged in since March. Take care! I love Karen Carpenter 05:30, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Image:Windkraftanlage Laasow.jpg[edit]

Hi Yann, your transfer from german wikipedia was not correct. The license was wrong, there was no link to the german user page of the author and the german file description was missing. Try using commonshelper next time. Regards and Happy New Year, Code·is·poetry 12:34, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, Thanks for correcting. Yann 11:50, 2 January 2008 (UTC)


{{PD-Russia}}[edit]

First - all the best - and happy New Year 2008.

Besides, may you take a look here Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Reichstag flag.jpg - and ( if it is possible) give Your opinion in the question ?

Thanks a lot: Andros64 16:50, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

A little problem[edit]

I have a little problem with the image:GR 73 Yermo.jpg and Image:PR Yermo.jpg when I try to upload them to the Spanish wikipedia. I don't know if there's something wrong with them. Could you help me, please? I don't know if I have made a mistake. I don't know what to do. Shall I upload it again? Or perhaps just wait ant try later? --P. B. Obregón 18:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I think the problem is solved. No need to do anything. --P. B. Obregón 18:07, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


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Photos from Palais Matignon site[edit]

Dear Yann

I would like to tranfer photos from official page of French Governement like this one [3] to Commons , as {{PD-because}} for reason - that according to this official statement - ( L'iconographie de la rubrique "Histoire" : Agence KEYSTONE : la reproduction n’est pas autorisée.)[4] Mainly - it is a question of oficial photos of French politicians of IIIrd and IVth Republic (and Resistance too)

Am I right - or you have any remarks?

Best regards: Andros64 11:35, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Category:Brundtland Report[edit]

Maintenant, on peut utiliser {{PD-UN}} mais pas {{PD-because|it is a document from the United Nations Organisation published before 1989}} pour ses images, n'est-ce pas ? --Jusjih 04:02, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Pictures Removed.[edit]

Hi Yann. My apologies if i made a mistake, this is the first day i have used wikipedia. I noticed you have removed all of the images i uploaded, marked as a copyright violation? its not in violation of any copyright? User:Hunterbecomeshunted

Template:PD-Ukraine[edit]

Would you be so kind to secure this template, because one user without any discussion have changed it three days before totally , making legal "fait accompli". If in the meantime he'll change it again, please revert it to the version existing 16.03.2008 before securing. It's just unacceptable way of making serious changes in Commons rules.

All the best:

Andros64 11:41, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Copyright violation?[edit]

I think there's a problem with the Image:La Danza.jpg, because, although it says that "This image (or other media file) is in the public domain because its copyright has expired./ This applies to the United States, Canada, the European Union and those countries with a copyright term of life of the author plus 70 years," it is not true, because Henri Matisse died in 1954 and this was less that 70 years ago. I would like to propose deletion for this reason, but I do not know what template should I use. Would you kindly tell me? Thank You. --P. B. Obregón 14:05, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


Image Tagging Image:Louis_Pergaud.jpg[edit]

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Hello, This image was made about 100 years ago. Like most images from this time, the author is unknown, and it is therefore quite useless to request a permission for such images. I removed your tag. Regards, Yann 12:09, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, but you wrote, that the picture was made before 1915. Nobody knows, how long before and without this info 100 years ago is it not until 2015. And the source-link doesn't go, too. -- Ra'ike T C 23:06, 12 May 2008 (UTC)


Yes, the picture was made about 100 years ago. Was it in 1906 or 1912, it doesn't change anything. And yes, the picture disappeared from the source. That the whole point to upload them to Commons: preserving old images which might otherwise not be available. Regards, Yann 15:23, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Intervention sur mes fichiers[edit]

Ne parlant pas l'anglais peux-tu t'expliquer en français que je comprenne ton message. Avant de tout supprimer le travail des uns et des autres, il faut prendre le temps de leur faire comprendre leurs erreurs. Cela ferait gagner du temps à tous le monde, toi tu ne serais plus obliger de te sentir obliger de supprimer tous les liens et moi ca me permettrait de ne pas refaire derrière toi tout ce que tu as défait ! User talk:David.0390


Image:Gandhi studio 1931.jpg[edit]

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Image Tagging Image:Gandhi marseille.jpg[edit]

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Tu n'as toujours pas donné de source ou d'argument pour appuyer l'affirmation que l'auteur de cette photographie est anonyme. Merci de t'abstenir d'enlever le template tant que toutes les informations sur cette image ne sont pas sourcées de façon adéquate. Rama (talk) 08:23, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Je te prie de lire le template, qui indique, en gras, "author and source of the file must be given". Tu n'as pas indiqué d'auteur. "Auteur inconnu" ne donne pas l'auteur, par définition, et n'équivaut pas à "auteur anonyme". Soit tu sources de façon précise le fait que l'auteur est anonyme, soit tu donnes son nom exact avec sa date de mort. Rama (talk) 08:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)



Image Tagging Image:John Ruskin.jpg[edit]

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Image Tagging Image:John Ruskin3.jpg[edit]

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Image:trapt.jpg[edit]

Hi Yann, you deleted the Trapt image I uploaded claiming it was a promo shot. That is incorrect, I have spoken to the man who took the photograph and I assure you it is his own work. He has also released it using CC for use in wikipedia. Thanks -Yosht (talk) 03:41, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Renommage[edit]

Bonjour Yann, j'aimerais renommer cette image,

en masque de Beethoven, parce que je me suis trompée, ce n'est pas un masque mortuaire cf.[5], [6] [7] comme il est daté de 1812 il est improbable qu'il fut réalisé à sa mort. Je t'ai aussi envoyé un mail. Cordialement. -- Perky (talk) 11:49, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Merci bien, ce robot est un bon contributeur. :-) -- Perky (talk) 08:00, 11 August 2008 (UTC)