User talk:Zirland/Archive2

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Westaflex Pictures[edit]

Dear Zirland (male or female), we seem to have to learn that you are able to delete all of our logo and picture material on our Wikipedia site. If you would like to understand what we are talking about, you might have a look at As we are positivley thinking we want to inform you that there has been no copyright unclear situation as all of the graphics are out of the Westaflex Company Media archive in Gütersloh. So at least: do you see any possibility to restore our pictures? Your comment is appreciated on: My name is Westerbarkey - if you like to write/talk in real name.....

Michael Jordan statue[edit]

Why did you delete the Michael Jordan statue picture? I believe it was listed as creative commons attribution license. Quadzilla99 23:07, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Since you didn't give me the link to deleted image, I can't check it. But I guess it was also listed as derivative work, which is inacceptable to our license policy. --Zirland 07:41, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

delation of account/user page/discussion[edit]

Please delate my account/user page/discussion. Krzysztof 21:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


Why did you delete Bratz.jpg? It was my photo (I mean I've made it). Asta 02:41, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

It was your photo and I have no doubt about this. BUT it this case we speak about derivative work. According to Commons license policy derivative works are not allowed here. --Zirland 11:17, 20 February 2007 (UTC) PS: I deleted reuploaded image.


You deleted Image:Monument of love and symmetry.jpg since the source page now shows "Standard restrictions apply" instead of the original "There are no usage restrictions for this photo". What about Commons:Stock.xchng images? The image was uploaded to Commons in April 2005. Since all stock.xchng images now point to the site's licensing as a restriction, should in your opinion all of them be deleted from here? --Para 12:08, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:De La Vega graffiti of Celia Cruz -2.JPG[edit]

I was the uploader of the image under cc-by-sa 2.5 and it was subsequently changed by another user to a fair use tag, who apparently thinks that graffiti is a copyrighted two-dimensional artwork. I disputed the changed tag at Image talk:De La Vega graffiti of Celia Cruz -2.JPG. I think I have a strong argument given the number of graffiti images on the wiki and would appreciate the image being put up for a full deletion process. Thanks, BanyanTree 19:10, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Note that the person who changed the tag appeared to have been acting out of annoyance when I replaced an image he took on an article (see w:Talk:James De La Vega#images). - BanyanTree 19:16, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Zirland, Thanks for bringing my request to the attention of the wider community. Per Commons:Village pump#Graffiti, Kelly Martin and Lupo have added clarification to Commons:Derivative works. Could you apply the newly written guidelines to Image:De La Vega graffiti of Celia Cruz -1.JPG and Image:De La Vega graffiti of Celia Cruz -2.JPG? It's stressful having images up for speedy with no resolution. Thanks, BanyanTree 14:22, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

newspaper at Category:East Timor[edit]

Hello! I've been told, that you deleted the picture of the newspaper Lia Foun at Category:East Timor. Well, there is a second pic like this there. Maybe this must be deleted, too. Greetings, --Patrick 19:38, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Are you crazy?[edit]

Hello man, can you tell me what happen with the pictures on Category:Jogo da vida? My photos DON'T are copyvio! Where is the votation? Please, take a look at Category:McDonald's, when the logo is on 3D high perspective and aren't the focus of the picture, the picture DON'T are coyvio. bye, --FML hello 00:42, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Strasburg RR Thomas.jpg[edit]

Hi. I'm not the creator of File:Strasburg RR Thomas.jpg, but you removed it from an article under the care of WikiProject:Thomas, and the Commons deletion log does not appear to give any reason for its deletion. I have searched around, but to no avail. As I am new to Commons, could you please tell me why this innocuous photo was deleted? Thanks PeterJewell 03:11, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi. The image you asked about was claimed to under non-commercial license and labeled for deletion by its uploader. --Zirland 03:21, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Thank you. Always useful to know what's going on, and why! PeterJewell 14:32, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Please replace image[edit]

Done: [1] --FML hello 17:42, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Hello. Why do you remove Image:PageRank-byFML.gif? It's MY work, from: [2]. It ISN'T derivated of anything, it's MY work, absolutily original. --FML hello 01:14, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Chicken McNuggets.jpg[edit]

Could you please undelete this image. It's not a derivative work, it's a photo I personally took. I don't know why User:555 claimed this was a derivative work and accused me of copyright violation without any proof, but if there's any doubt I have the original unedited shots to back up my authenticy as the creator and copyright holder of the image. --Fritz Saalfeld 15:13, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

deletion of derivative?[edit]

hi, you seem to have deleted a pic [3] that was linked to in here. It's now a broken link. You mentioned it's a derivative, can you link the original to there? thanks Towsonu2003 18:58, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


Hello Zirland, why did you delete the image Nieuwe_Republiek.png ? If it is "superseded" where is the new one? Best regardsAhanta 10:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Revision of Image:Nieuwe Republiek.png from 11:43, 26 September 2006
{ {supersededSVG|Flag of Nieuwe Republiek.svg}}
Best --Zirland 13:38, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

RAID canister[edit]

Image is not a copyvio, it is NOT derivative, please see the note I left on the Talk page of the Image and the discussion at Undeletion requests. --User:Dante Alighieri 22:03, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Apollo II (Greek Mythology).jpg[edit]

Image:Apollo II (Greek Mythology).jpg: This was from 4th century BC... How can it not be in the PD? After 2400 years? --::Slomox:: >< 11:24, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Image:Interstate 480 (California).svg[edit]

You deleted Image:Interstate 480 (California).svg with an edit comment of "duplicate, not used". What image is it a duplicate of? It appears to have been in use in the article en:California State Route 480. ~ BigrTex 20:02, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I haven't spent nearly as much time here on commons as over on the english pedia. I eventually figured out on my own what the duplicate was.
Apparently User:Vishwin60 in January uploaded a bunch of images that are identical to ones that User:SPUI had already uploaded. He then marked the older images as duplicates, but didn't change the articles to point to the new images.
I've changed the article I mentioned above, but this seems like a problem to me, since both the new and old images are being used, and apparently you aren't checking usage before deleting the older images. ~ BigrTex 22:38, 6 March 2007 (UTC)



I know you deleted an image that I upload without saying me anything (see here for more information). I think it wasn't a copyright violation (this image was similar to Image:OOo-2.0-Writer-ca.png, Image:OOo-2.0-Calc-ca.png, Image:OOo-2.0-Impress-ca.png or Image:OOo-2.0-Base-ca.png but illustrating the 2.0 Draw module). If you want to see the exactly image I loaded here, you can go to

Please, explain me what I did bad and let me know if I can load it again or not. Thanks!--Iradigalesc (talk) 17:38, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Impress and Draw images were including non-free logo. Other images don't include it. --Zirland 21:26, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll take new images, but please, answer my discussions to my talk page and not here.--Iradigalesc (talk) 22:16, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Please delete Image:OOo-2.0-Impress.png which has a bad name. Thanks!--Iradigalesc (talk) 22:41, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Bic pen[edit]

I notice that you had deleted a photograph of a Bic pen.

On your discussion page, I noticed a link to the derivative works policy.

Upon reading the policy, I came across two passages:

1: On the other hand, although the shape of an industrial product may be aesthetically satisfying and valuable, the Committee’s intention is not to offer it copyright protection under the bill. Unless the shape of an automobile, airplane, ladies’ dress, food processor, television set, or any other industrial product contains some element that, physically or conceptually, can be identified as separable from the utilitarian aspects of that article, the design would not be copyrighted under the bill. The test of separability and independence from “the utilitarian aspects of the article” does not depend upon the nature of the design—that is, even if the appearance of an article is determined by aesthetic (as opposed to functional) considerations, only elements, if any, which can be identified separately from the useful article as such are copyrightable.

2: Photographs of three-dimensional objects are always copyrighted. Even if the object itself is in the public domain. If you didn't take the photograph yourself, you need permission from the owner of the photographic copyright (unless of course the photograph itself is in the public domain).

Does this mean that, if I were somehow to procure a Bic pen, put it against a plain background, take a photograph of the pen, and upload my photograph to Wikimedia Commons with a public domain release or a GNU licence, that it would be able to remain in Wikimedia Commons and used to illustrate the Bic and Bic Cristal articles at Wikipedia? Would I have to tape over the logo, file it off, or position the pen in such a way that the logo is not seen, in order that the logo be separated from the utilitarian aspect?

Bratislava erb[edit]

Could you please explain, why you deleted Image:Bratislava_erb.jpg? The user, who inserted speedy delete pointed to [4] and said it was a copyvio. This seems to be very pointless. This page for children surely does not have the copyright to a city coat of arms. And I wonder who shall be the copyright holder of a motif dating back to the 15th century. Copyright ends 70 years after the death of the creator. --::Slomox:: >< 15:10, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

The copyright holder of this image is of course the person, who didi draw it, because slovak law doesn't exclude coats of arms out of the copyright. The name of the author, however, did not mentioned in description, as this fact is violation by itself. The motif is quite sure in PD, but this specific interpretation is not, unless you prove, the author of JPEG image died prior to 1938. --Zirland 16:02, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Kyrgyzstani banknote[edit]

Hey, I see that you delete some Kyrgyzstani banknote images (see [5]) in the name of copyright vio. They are not entitled to copyright according to their national law ({{PD-KG-exempt}}). --Chochopk 16:04, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Image:WCM all members.jpg[edit]

Hi. Could you please un-delete the image Image:WCM all members.jpg? I have the full rights/permission to put under any licence I want. If the information given with the file was not sufficient I can provide more info as required. --Zureks 16:09, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Image:CouleeVerte Plan.jpg[edit]

Hi. Could you please tell me why you deleted this image? It's the image of a public sign, there's no copyright. I should have been notified of this, wasn't there a discussion log before the deletion ? IMHO if there's no proof of copyright violation it should be undeleted. --Atoma 20:16, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Derivative works of copyrighted material are not allowed on Commons. --Zirland 21:15, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
  • This is a representation of a government reglementation, and it is of the public domain. The board shown in the image is not a work of art or any other form of work which would make could be considered in the derivatives section. It was published by the city council of a France department and released to the public domain according to the french legislation. Please consider French (not US!) reglementations. You will find here a detailed image of the mentioned work.
PS: Replying to my discussion page (or at least leaving a brief message) would make the identification of your messages easier, I'm not watching other people's discussion pages. Regards. --Atoma 22:46, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
The French legislation does not release government work in the public domain. Actually, the French legislation is far less permissive than the US law about government works. I have also deleted the other image. guillom 09:52, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Speedydeleted images[edit]

Image:Maserati COUPE 2007-01.jpg,Image:Maserati COUPE 2007-02.jpg and Image:Maserati COUPE 2007-03.jpg. Why are these images deleted? Regards --MB-one 17:33, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I thought a release under GFDL can't be withdrawn. So, the images could be legally uploaded again, or restored. --MB-one 18:25, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Logo Tour de France 2005 .JPG[edit]

Hi is there any possiblity that you can email me the file for this image so i can upload it locally on wikinews. My email is Thanks.

is there anychance of the copyright info/upload info that i can copy and paste as well - otherwise it will be deleted locally as well. Cheers. --Markie 19:36, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Cheers!! --Markie 19:43, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

pls protect[edit]

Please protect the Image:Upravenec Koukal.jpg as I probably will request an arbitration on and will need the image for it. Thx, -jkb- 13:15, 17 May 2007 (UTC) - - done

An indef block of the user:Upravenec Koukal requested herby as well according to similar blocks in, thx, -jkb- 13:23, 17 May 2007


This I have maked my sel, way you have delete it????

The image was licensed under non-commercial license. --Zirland 22:57, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Adult Movies.jpg[edit]

Hi. Please join the discussion at User talk:MECU#Image:Adult Movies.jpg. Thanks!   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 06:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)


Per Image:Chu.JPG. This did not have any problems. In Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Chu.JPG, two votes were cast and both were for keep. Would you undelete this image ASAP? This also affects the discussion in Japanese Wikipedia. Yassie 11:54, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Tamagotchi 0124 ubt.jpeg[edit]

Dlaczego to skasowałeś? To nie jest "derivative of a copyrighted work" (jak np. figurki postaci z filmów) - równie dobrze możesz skasować wszystkie zdjęcia komputerów, samochodów, zapalniczek i 99% wszystkiego na Commons. Proszę przywróć skasowane odwołania do pliku. tsca [re] 15:15, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

For making speedy deletions really speedy[edit]

A nice cold ice cream for really speedy speedy deletions really speedy :). -- Bryan (talk to me) 20:28, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

image:Siegesdenkmal bozen.JPG[edit]

Hi Zirland You deleted one of my pictures without notifying me. And I d'ont know the reason. When I made this picture gpdl was the state of the art. I but it under cc now. I hope this is okey--MartinS 07:28, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

It was originally deleted because it was "In category Copyright violation; not edited for 2 days", and was further deleted because "The architect, Marcello Piacentini, died in 1960, his works will not be in the public domain until 2030. Italy has no "Freedom of Panorama"." Please see this log and Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Siegesdenkmal bozen.JPG for details. Please don't upload it again. Thanks!   — Jeff G. ツ 15:45, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
This looks like an attempt to censor pictures by political motivation, not because of an alleged copyright infringement! And, BTW, the "Siegesdenkmal" is already public domain, since monuments are ALWAYS public domain!

Image borrada[edit]

Se me ha borrado la imagen Image:Cameros 90.jpg. Soy uno de los autores de este libro. ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ - ?????????????? --Cornava 11:07, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Fair use book covers are not allowed on Commons --Zirland 16:28, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
If all of the copyright holders for that image agree to release it under the same free license, please send the agreement to OTRS. Thanks!   — Jeff G. ツ 15:47, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


What was wrong with this image? 14:52, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Free public use of the image was allowed by the copyright holder.[6] 15:03, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I don't see a correlation between that image name and that webpage. Please be more specific. Thanks!   — Jeff G. ツ 15:52, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
The image was from that website and was uploadded to wiki commons some time ago. The image was deleted in the last 12 hrs. The image copyright allows it to be used as in the public domain. 16:02, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
That image name was not on that website when I looked at 15:52 UTC.   — Jeff G. ツ 17:28, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Use of {{badname}}[edit]

{{badname}} should only be used when both images are identical and the image you placed the template on was uploaded by you. If the image is identical but not uploaded by you use {{duplicate}} instead. Please bare in mind that if an image is in a different file format (for example svg and png) they can never be identical. Finally, if you want an image to be renamed but it has not yet been uploaded with the new filename it is suggested you use {{rename}}. Thank you. Lcarsdata 19:24, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Confederation Cup Picture[edit]

Hi Zirland,

I have seen that you deleted the Picture of the FIFA Confederations Cup (Image:Trophy_of_the_FIFA_Confederations_Cup.jpg), I have uploaded. I don't know exactly why, but probably to avoid juristical trouble with the FIFA. So thank you for it.

Was it just that special image or does this also apply to all kind of sport trophys ? Because I have uploaded two more trophys at that time and I will need to delete them to then. I have also seen many other pictures of FIFA trophys like the world cup on commons. How about them ? Or this one here: ?

--Curnen 14:00, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Per this log, it was deleted because it was "In category Derivatives of copyrighted works; not edited for 0 days". The nominator appears to have thought the FIFA Cup was copyrighted. OTOH, it is a cup, and has utilitarian use, so perhaps the cup wasn't covered by copyright.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs|supports deadminship for inactivity) 23:52, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:Monk by the Sea.jpg[edit]

I see no reason given for deleting this image. It seems not to appear in the deletion logs. WolfgangRieger 15:48, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you are looking at the wrong logs. Per this log, "14:37, 3 June 2007 Zirland (talk · contribs) deleted "Image:Monk by the Sea.jpg" (In category Category:Other speedy deletions; not edited for 3 days)".   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs|supports deadminship for inactivity) 23:55, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
I have seen that log entry. But there is no reason given, no discussion, nothing. WolfgangRieger 19:41, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
The image was marked as damaged, so it was deleted. I restored it again. --Zirland 08:30, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Portál společenství[edit]

Ahoj, založil jsem Portál společenství a tak jsem se chtěl zeptat, jestli bys mohl změnit odkaz vpravo v navigaci z Community portal na Portál společenství, když už jsem to teda přeložil. A taky bych byl rád, kdys mi trochu pomohl s překladem pravidel a politiky do češtiny, protože roste počet českých uživatelů a bylo by dobré, aby byli informováni o tom, jak správně nahrávat.--Bumla 17:55, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Rád pomohu, stačí říct jak. --Zirland 14:10, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


Could you please invite users of Czech Wikipedia into participation in this project? Thank you. --EugeneZelenko 14:52, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


Please let me know the reason Image:Harry-s-truman-58-766-09.jpg was marked for deletion. Thanks. 16:53, 11 June 2007 (UTC) (Wikipedia account: Karlhahn. Please answer on my Wikipedia talk page).

Per this log, Image:Harry-s-truman-58-766-09.jpg was "In category Other speedy deletions; not edited for 0 days". Now, why was it in category Other speedy deletions?   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs|supports deadminship for inactivity) 21:41, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Commons user Vints put {{speedy}} on this because Truman library says "Restrictions:Undetermined", which means the copyright status is unknown. [7]. They wrote in a mail to him: "Photographs that are indicated to be of undetermined origin are ones for which we have no information regarding photographer or ownership. We will provide the photograph to you, but you would use it at your own risk. We can only tell you that we don't have any copyright information on the picture."
Since the copyright status is unclear, we can't say it is free image. For this reason it was deleted as incompatible with Commons License Policy. --Zirland 17:08, 11 June 2007 (UTC) copied from this edit and the preceding edit


Mohl bych vědět, proč byl tento obrázek vymazán? Tento obrázek je používán osobou, kterou zobrazuje, jako avatar na jednom diskusním fóre, kde si jej může kdokoliv pro jakékoliv účely volně stahnout. Od dané osoby jsem dokonce dostal i původní originální forografii mailem, ale kvůli nejasnostem k liceni a autorství jsem jej neuploadoval a místo toho sjem vložil aspoň dočasně obrázek, který jsem považoval za volně šiřitelný, pokud je používán jako avatar.

Pokud se mýlím, opravte mne.
--Niusereset 12.VI. MMVII, 01:17 CEST

Image:Immigration italienne.jpg[edit]

Why did you delete this picture ? FrancoBras 23:18, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

It was "In category Copyright violation; not edited for 0 days" per this log. this post has some more info.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs|supports deadminship for inactivity) 00:52, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Images of Ivrea[edit]

Hello, you deleted the following images:

All these photos are my own work that I previously loaded on Italian wikipedia, as you can see here [8] --Laurom 22:31, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

These were "In category Copyright violation; no license". If you applied a source and license tag, you should have removed any tag that was no longer true.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 00:16, 24 June 2007 (UTC)


Hi, why are you deleteted this image? I corrected image and found source. You can instead delete Image:Cruithne.jpg, it's from [9]. Yarl TalkPL 12:15, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Per this log, it was "In category Copyright violation; no license". If you applied a source and license tag, you should have removed any tag that was no longer true.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 00:14, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Hmm... I thought, that I deleted this tag. Well, nevermind. Yarl TalkPL 14:19, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

sorry że pisze do Ciebie po polsku ale masz j. polski w swojej wiezy wiec mysle ze zrozumiesz, a mi bedzie prosciej. chodzi mi o fotke planetoidy ktora usunales 22 czerwca - z opisu wynika ze jest ona wlasnoscia NASA i jako taka nie musi posiadac licencji poniewaz wszystkie fotki NASA to PD. nalezalo wiec poprawic opis i wstawic licencje a nie ja usuwac. a w ten sposob zrobiles dziure w infoboxie o tej planetoidzie... bot wykasowal odnosnik, troche szkoda bo teraz nie wiem skad ta fotke sciagnac by ja prawidlowo opisac. pozdrawiam (John Belushi - The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) at 20:57, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Copyvio - The original source for this image is ( and the is a clear copyright statement on this site and on the image. Note the warning in the NASA-PD tag: "Images featured on the Astronomy Picture of the Day (APOD) web site may be copyrighted". --Zirland 12:02, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Grafenau Firmen Zug.jpg[edit]

Which policy did Image:Grafenau Firmen Zug.jpg violate? --Baikonur 19:29, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

This media is shows logos or registered trademarks, so it falls into fair use, which is not acceptable. --Zirland 06:47, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Are you serious? If your logic applies, then you have to delete all images containing a logo somewhere. For example Image:Marcin Osiński.jpg, all the car pictures at Mercedes-Benz or Image:Power Mac G5 hero left.jpg. Where do you draw the line? Or are you just picking randomly? --Baikonur 16:20, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Commons:Administrators' noticeboard#Anyone know what happened to these images?[edit]

Hi, would you please comment at the subject section? Thanks!   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs)


Please delete my picture Tonian.JPG. I don't want to show it any more. I don't know how to make delete request, and please delete it without it.--Tonian 18:08, 18 August 2007 (UTC)