File talk:ESC 1960 Logo.PNG
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Cleaned-up logo[edit]
The current version of the logo is taken from the ESC website, but seems almost an arbitrary placeholder put there by the web team. It's typed in the Impact font, which wasn't created until 1965. I assume the original grainy version is a direct scan of original promotional material, or possibly an inverted screengrab. It's lower quality, but is much more representative of the event and its time. Should we revert to this? Pinging User:Lordtobi as the uploader. --Lord Belbury (talk) 08:14, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
- I don't think we can know for sure where this specific version of the logo comes from as the EBU is very secretive about trivial stuff. However, since it is treated as official by the EBU, I think we can do so too. Otherwise, The Diggiloo Thrush has a more accurate version available, which we could also use. The spacing looks a bit weird because the original logo was televised in two parts back then. Lordtobi (✉) 08:26, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
- Well, wherever it came from if it's using a 1965 font then we can know for sure it was not displayed on TV screens or promotional material in 1960. We don't know the ESC website's reason for preferring a clean but anachronistic font to a grainy original, but I'd have thought both Wikipedia and Commons would find more value in the original televised text. --Lord Belbury (talk) 08:36, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
- I'm fine with using the now-official logo displayed on the website, but I have no strong feeling for either version. If you disagree, you can replace it with the Diggiloo Thrush version, which is the one shown on TV, or the same from another source, as it has a reasonable resolution. Ideally, of course, this logo could be vectorized. Lordtobi (✉) 08:45, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
- I think there's a world of difference between an image in a website database and an "official logo" that the ESC might use if they were asked to provide one for a retrospective book, exhibition or documentary. File:ESC 1956 logotyp.png, from the same source, is using a 1992 Microsoft typeface. My feeling is that this was a website team quickly making placeholder logos using default Windows fonts, for any year where the available image was missing or low quality. I'll revert to the Diggiloo image for historical accuracy. --Lord Belbury (talk) 08:55, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
- I'm fine with using the now-official logo displayed on the website, but I have no strong feeling for either version. If you disagree, you can replace it with the Diggiloo Thrush version, which is the one shown on TV, or the same from another source, as it has a reasonable resolution. Ideally, of course, this logo could be vectorized. Lordtobi (✉) 08:45, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
- Well, wherever it came from if it's using a 1965 font then we can know for sure it was not displayed on TV screens or promotional material in 1960. We don't know the ESC website's reason for preferring a clean but anachronistic font to a grainy original, but I'd have thought both Wikipedia and Commons would find more value in the original televised text. --Lord Belbury (talk) 08:36, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
