File talk:NGA-Atlantic Loran.png

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LORAN coverage charts[edit]

I have uploaded two charts showing coverage of LORAN networks worldwide dated 1997. They are from a 2006 issue of DoD General Planning supplement for aviators (Flight Information Publication or FIP), published by the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency. It was freely distributed until October 2006, but NGA distributes only to registered DoD users after that date. The two charts are in PNG format, saved from the original PDF file using GIMP. The filenames are File:NGA-Pacific Loran.png and File:NGA-Atlantic Loran.png. I still have the PDF file, but it is too large (12 MBytes), however I could upload or e-mail the cover page (100k PNG format) if someone has doubts. Sv1xv (talk) 18:43, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See here for cover page: http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8411/ngofipgpcover.png Sv1xv (talk) 18:57, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
While I am fairly sure they are federal works, are there any other pages in the document that credit the creators of the graphs/maps/illustrations? Jappalang (talk) 01:03, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There are no specific credits for information sources or graphs etc. The artwork of the two graphs follows the standar style of other NIMA/NGO FLIP documents. BTW, because the graphs were created in 1997, an attribution found elsewhere (copies of these charts from an older FLIP issue) could credit the "National Imagery and Mapping Agency" (NIMA), as the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency was named between 1966-2003. Sv1xv (talk) 04:22, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Does this sort of thing really need a review? I don't think there is much anyone can actually verify without seeing the actual publication for themselves, but maps published by a federal government mapping agency seem obviously PD. Carl Lindberg (talk) 04:37, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, for two reasons: The source is no longer available online since October 2006. Also the credit and copyright notices exist on the cover page of the document and not on the chart itself. After a few months someone could file a deletion request for these charts and it would be difficult to refute it. However I agree with you that not every US federal government document needs a PD review. For example, it is not needed for this image File:Mv-world.jpg, coming from the same source, as it contains all source infromation and credits. Sv1xv (talk) 04:50, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I will just pass those two. Discussion copied over to their talk pages. Jappalang (talk) 05:15, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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