File talk:Piazza st. peters rome 1909.jpg
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Snapshots of the Past writes (I am asking them how they can verify their claim -Wikibob 18:36, 4 December 2005 (UTC)):
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What is your copyrights policy?
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You tagged this image I uploaded with {{Incomplete license}}. – Many web site owners (including museums) will claim that they own public domain stuff, and we cannot accept their word for it. We definitely need more detailed information about copyright regulations in various countries. There are many interesting old photographs with expired copyrights, and we need a way to determine which ones we can use. – Do you have any suggestions how we proceed with Image:Piazza st. peters rome 1909.jpg? I am inclined to move the discussion to the picture's talk page and to remove the incomplete license tag. Thoughts? Rl 09:34, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
- I agree, and by the way Snapshots of the Past have not replied to my query. The problem is, my interpretation of the EU copyright is that someone *may* have a copyright claim in this special case: 1. the image was never published before 2001 (eg. it lay in a drawer since 1909) and 2. the photographer is not known
- I was hoping that the photographer could be discovered, or that the image appeared in a book or the web before 2001, thereby making this image PD in the EU and the US. At present I see it as PD in the US. I could not find it with google image. Below I've copied my notes that informed my thoughts, specifically note 6. -Wikibob 18:21, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
old photographs from snapshotsofthepast[edit]
snapshotsofthepast.com has some quite old photographs and posters, some of which appear to be in the public domain, at least in the US. However, according to en:User:Quadell/copyright some may still be under copyright only if they had not been published before 2003 and the author is unknown:
4. If the work has NEVER been published before in any form, it is considered an "unpublished work". Alternatively, if a work was FIRST published in 2003 or later, even though it was created before 1935, it is still legally considered an "unpublished work".
5. If an "unpublished work" is by a known author with a known year of death, then the work is in the public domain if the author died before 1935.
6. If an "unpublished work" is by an anonymous or corporate author, or if the year of death for the author is not known, then the work is in the public domain if the work was created before 1885.
- 1896 Panorama Photo of the Brooklyn Bridge note 6
- 1908 Panoramic Photo of Trafalgar Square note 6
- Third Liberty Loan Honor Roll WWI War Poster 1914-1918? Artist W.F. Powers Co, but PD due to US Treasury department?
and others.
Unpublished?[edit]
Thanks for the explanations. I have a hard time believing that people took panorama pictures only to sit on them for 80 years or more. So now it's up to us proving that they were published or displayed anytime since WWI? That's just great. Rl 17:02, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
