Template talk:Map/Examples

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Nr 1: Library of Congress    Native name Library of Congress Location Washington, D.C. , United States of America Coordinates 38° 53′ 19″ N, 77° 00′ 17″ W   Established 24 April 1800  Website loc.gov  Authority file : Q131454 VIAF: 151962300 ISNI: 000000012186288X ULAN: 500312782 LCCN: n78089035 NLA: 35304669 WorldCat institution QS:P195,Q131454 Nr 2: Library of Congress    Native name Library of Congress Location Washington, D.C. , United States of America Coordinates 38° 53′ 19″ N, 77° 00′ 17″ W   Established 24 April 1800  Website loc.gov  Authority file : Q131454 VIAF: 151962300 ISNI: 000000012186288X ULAN: 500312782 LCCN: n78089035 NLA: 35304669 WorldCat institution QS:P195,Q131454
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Date

There are several dates that go along with a file. If a date is in the basic section, it is the upload date and should not be confused with the depicted date. In the examples, depicted dates are written in the date field. --Susannaanas (talk) 07:15, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

The date in the basic section should never be the upload date but instead the date of creation (since it is used for copyright). It could therefore possibly be the date of digitization. See the documentation for more info. /André Costa (WMSE) (talk) 10:28, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

OK, you are right. I get confused when we don't collect depicted dates even if we have the info. I think we need clarity in a way or another to collect the right information. We have different dates:

1. The upload date
2. The date of digitization
3. The date of reproduction (photograph)
4. The print date for printed matter, different from the creation date if a reprint
5. A creation date for the original object
6. The date that the map depicts. Should it have additional qualifiers, if the map depicts a plan that never was realized, or such conditional cases?

Which template fields should they be mapped to? I would like to think forward with bringing this to structured data as well, not only conforming to current practices – while still publishing soon :). --Susannaanas (talk) 10:54, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

I numbered your cases above to make them easier to reply to

1. Not relevant (it exists as a metadata timestamp in the file history)
2. This should go into the date field
3. This should go into the date field (until we have CommonsData multiple values have to be dealt with by simply adding multiple lines. Example:

   date=

   1948 (photograph)

   2014 (digitization)

4. This should go into print date (reprints have a similar solution to the case above)
5. This should also go into the date field =)
6. This should go into the map date. Qualifiers such as "plan, proposal" etc. should go into the description field I guess.

Adding more fields in order to prep for CommonsData would mean that the template quickly becomes unusable now. Sadly I think we have to do the best we can with what we have. Of course any mappings that a particular institution do can be recorded so as to make conversion to CommonsData easier in the future. /André Costa (WMSE) (talk) 10:15, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Map sheet

In this example the natural value would be number 1, taken from the Accession number. There should be a reference to a category or an object that holds all map sheets of this series. This is a largely unsolved problem. I propose we will solve it through the community discussion that will crave for an answer when we release :) --Susannaanas (talk) 07:28, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Since this is (on purpose) an example of a map which does not come from a GLAM an accession number would not make sense. Or did you mean one of the other examples?. /André Costa (WMSE) (talk) 10:30, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

I meant a whole other example... this one. Wonder why I pasted a wrong link... --Susannaanas (talk) 10:51, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

"Single sheet map" comes from [1] but was moved from type (since it doesn't correspond with type here). Guess set = Single sheet map and sheet = 1 could be added but I would feel that the current works better (since a single sheet map can still be part of a collection). /André Costa (WMSE) (talk) 14:07, 24 September 2014 (UTC)