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Grey and semi-transparant[编辑]

The use of grey-colloured villages and semitransparant in this map is intended for

  1. Villages/places with conflicting reports/sources/maps
  2. Villages/places of wich the status is uncertain, or without any good info.
  3. Villages/places that might be partly under control of both sides
  4. Villages/places were there is close combat/fighting for control. (no far schelling)

Grey, semi-tranparent is the basic/original status of villages/places. You need evidence/multiple reliable sources without doubt that an entire village/place is under full uncontested control to change uncertain to certain. When there are conflicting sources it should be remain grey/semitransparant.

Note that n this conflict when the outskirds of villige/place are only merely attacked/shelled you will see already reports/sources coming up that claim it is completly conquered. From both sides.

List of different map sources[编辑]

Official:

Others:

List of different textual sources[编辑]

Need for sources[编辑]

Any changes that reflect better the reality are very welcome, but sources shall be provided.Mondolkiri1 (talk) 23:11, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[回复]

Source about the correction of my edit concerning to Pervomaisk given in File:East_Ukraine_conflict.svg: http://www.unn.com.ua/ru/news/1385893-naselenim-punktam-luganschini-dosi-ne-vistachaye-ukrayinskoyi-gumanitarki-verigina (http://www.unn.com.ua/uk/news/1385893-naselenim-punktam-luganschini-dosi-ne-vistachaye-ukrayinskoyi-gumanitarki-verigina in Ukrainian) Mondolkiri1 (talk) 15:53, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[回复]
Well, until 3 October this file is protected... According to [1] there's no military activity in Luhans'ke and Svitlodars'k. They should be blue, not grey.Mondolkiri1 (talk) 01:24, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[回复]
According to http://militarymaps.info/ the following changes should be made (it doesn't affect the general picture, anyway):
  • SartanaSartana – from red to blue; surronding zone: yellow
  • Talakivka – from red to blue: surrounding zone: foggy
  • Shyrokyne – from red to blue: surrounding zone: yellow
  • Hranitne – from blue to red; surrounding zone: pink
  • Staroslapa – surrounding zone: pink
  • Novotroits'ke – from blue to red; surrounding zone: pink
  • Dokuchajevs'k – from blue to red; surrounding zone: pink;
  • Kostyantynivka – from blue to red, surrounding zone: foggy
  • Pisky – from orange to red, surrounding zone: pink
  • Pink area around Donetsk Airport correct.
  • Vuhleris'k – from grey to blue, surrounding area: yellow
  • Chornukine – from grey to blue, sorrounding area: yellow
  • Pink strip north of Debaltseve correct.
  • Kirovske – from grey to red, surrounding area: pink
  • Zhdanivka – from grey to blue, surrounding area: yellow
  • Maloorlivka – from grey to blue, surrounding area: yellow
  • Vil'khivka – from grey to red, surrounding area: pink
  • Triotske – from blue to grey, surrounding area: foggy
  • Pervomaisk – from grey to red, surrounding area: pink
  • Zolote – from grey to blue, surrounding area: yellow
  • Hirs'ke – from grey to blue, surrounding area: yellow
  • Kryms'ke – from red to blue, surrounding area: foggy strip south of the river
  • Sokil'niky – from red to grey, surrounding area: smame foggy sttrip south of the river
  • Vesela Hora – from grey to red, sorrounding area (South of the river): pink
  • Stanytsia Luhanska – from grey to red, surrounding area: pink
  • Yellow circle North of Lutuhyne, East of Bile (only countryside)

Mondolkiri1 (talk) 03:36, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[回复]

Shyrokyne – left for red : surrounding zone: pink TSNEspresso TV
Talakivka and Sartana - from red to grey, surrounding area: foggy Dialog UA--Hanibal911 (留言) 08:22, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[回复]
@Hanibal911: Thank you for the sources. I'll read them to get a better perspective of the situation on the ground, near Mariupol.Mondolkiri1 (talk) 18:55, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[回复]

The official map of the Ukrainian government: http://mediarnbo.org/category/photo-video/?future= from 19 September, has some differences, but doesn't contradict a lot the big picture of the map from http://militarymaps.info/, and it has very little detail. Curiously, it's not very favourable to the Ukrainian military situation, since it displays a foggy zone that goes almost all the way to the border of the Kharkiv Oblast. But the most important issue about this source, in my opinion, is that it's very little detailed.Mondolkiri1 (talk) 18:58, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[回复]

New data:
@Hanibal911: Thank you very much for the sources. I'm using this information to update the East Ukraine Conflict.svg file. The other can only be updated on 3 October.Mondolkiri1 (talk) 16:37, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[回复]
More data:

Luhansk[编辑]

Need to fix "Luhansk"--Dgho (留言) 10:57, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[回复]

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