File talk:Harmandir Sahib, Amritsar, India.jpg

"Bathing in regular clothes" category

This man is not "bathing in regular clothes". It seems disrespectful of his religion and the work he is doing to put this file in that category. Krok6kola (留言) 14:09, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

As already said -- either find a more appropriate category for pictures depicting clothed people standing in water for whatever purpose -- or let it be, but do not remove the category completely. Regards --A.Savin 14:17, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Pinging also Daniel Case. --A.Savin 14:19, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

@A.Savin: Since I could not leave a note on your discussion page, since it is apparently protected, I am expressing that I feel very strongly that this category is disrespectful of the religious work this man is doing. Also, it is inaccurate, since he is not "bathing". The photographer left a note on your discussion page, before it was protected, that he objected to the category and I believe this should be respected. Is it not true that just because you are an admin, you cannot take into consideration the photographer's wishes and the wishes of others who want to respect religious work? Krok6kola (留言) 14:33, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

@A.Savin: How to discuss? I am discussing here but you are not. You are merely pinging others to support you. There is no discussion nor rationale from you. I think that category is insulting and unnecessary, and disrespectful of the photographers wishes. Krok6kola (留言) 14:37, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

As already said -- find a category which is not "disrespectful" from your POV, or keep this one. Otherwise I don't see how we should be censoring a category on something the picture is clearly depicting. Commons is a project for sharing knowledge, not for protecting someone from their religious feelings being hurt or something. Regards --A.Savin 14:40, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

@A.Savin: I did add two categories to replace the "bathing in regular cloths": a "men at work" cat and a Sikhs" cat, both of which you left. I disagree with your POV. And the explanation of that category: "Wetlook" describes the appearance of fabric which is shiny and thus appears to be wet. It may also describe the act of getting wet while wearing clothes, and enjoyment of doing so or of watching others do so,[1] as a form of sexual excitement. as given for the category. See Wetlook, the explanation given for that cat. This image does not fit this description. Krok6kola (留言) 14:55, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Sorry but you're definitely wrong in both aspects: a) "Men at work" and "Sikhs" obviously does not necessarily describe images of people in water, and b) the category "Bathing in regular clothes" shall contain images that depict people who are eating pizza with salami... oops I mean bathing in regular clothes -- I am not responsible for the en:Wetlook article and I don't know who connected it with the "Bathing in regular clothes" category -- feel free to find the one who did it and to discuss wih them. Regards --A.Savin 15:02, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

All people in water are not "Category:bathing". Krok6kola (留言) 15:37, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

"I disagree with your POV" -- I take it, you mean my statement "Commons is a project for sharing knowledge"? That's my POV you disagree with? Well OK, good to know. Regards --A.Savin 16:21, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

I know in the past you have deleted discussion pages I have left; please do not delete this one.

A.Savin, Please do not delete this page. Since you have protected your talk page, I am unable to post there. Therefore, if you delete this, there will be no record of this discussion. Krok6kola (留言) 14:58, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Wrong assumption. Regards --A.Savin 15:05, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

You have removed one of my categories and protected the image so that only admins can edit it.

A.Savin, please add back Category:Men at work in Punjab, India. It is more truthful than "bathing with regular clothes on." Krok6kola (留言) 15:04, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

I didn't remove this category. Regards --A.Savin 15:06, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, you changed it from "Workers in India" to "Workers in Punjab, India" which is not as fitting, IMO. And please address my objections above, that the image does not fit the category description. And that the photographer of the image objected to that category for his image. Krok6kola (留言) 15:10, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

I had responded to Dey.sandip; the fact that he has not commented on this so far does not have to mean he still disagrees. Regards --A.Savin 15:24, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

And no, I didn't change "Workers in India" to "Workers in Punjab, India". However I encourage this change. Regards --A.Savin 15:24, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

It does not mean he agrees, as you tend to intimidate people who disagree with you. Krok6kola (留言) 15:31, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Your personal attacks are as unacceptable as laughable. Regards --A.Savin 15:38, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Per Village Pump suggestion, categorizing as People in water

@A.Savin: Please see Village Pump discussion. Category:People in water was suggested as more appropriate. So I will implement that. Thanks, Krok6kola (留言) 22:43, 30 September 2021 (UTC)