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Proposal for colour changes

I would like to propose that the background colours for the Golan Heights and East Jerusalem be changed to the same as for the West Bank. GregKaye (トーク) 19:31, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

The areas are not in the same status as the West Bank so not the same color, but they could be shaded differently from the rest of the districts.WarKosign (トーク) 20:54, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Part of the Northern District in this map also includes territory outside the 1949 armistice line so that district's colouring would also need fixing. 70.50.123.188 21:33, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

I agree that the 1949 armistice line is the key reference here for differentiation. I think that the presentation of Golan and East Jerusalem in a similar fashion as territory to the west of the demarcation line is misleading. GregKaye (トーク) 09:38, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Pinging previous contributors to the article: Ynhockey Bambuway Conscious Rottweiler Is it possible that any of you could make some colouration changes to the noted areas? The 1949 armistice line provides the only differentiation that gets international recognition that I know of. Even this may be a fudge as this line was at best meant to be a temporary measure but it is the best border available. Your help would be appreciated. GregKaye (トーク) 07:33, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

This map is about administrative districts, it really has nothing to do with the 1949 armistice lines. Those were originally included because of the sh!tstorm that not including them would cause—but the map is supposed to illustrate which geographical area is in which district. For example, Beit Safafa is under the Jerusalem District, and Katzrin is part of the Northern District. Like if you want to propose a city plan for Katzrin, you need to go to the Northern District planning committee. None of the armistice lines play a role here. —Ynhockey (トーク) 12:39, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

I disagree with the new colouring; this map is meant to represent the administrative boundaries of Israel, not internationally recognized borders. The Israel article itself has maps that display what you are trying to convey, regarding east Jerusalem and the Golan Heights, but this map was meant for a different purpose, and I strongly disagree with these changes, with all due respect.121.214.23.67 12:06, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Even with the colours chosen the differentiation between the district areas remains extremely clear due to the apportioned weight of the lines. I think it would have been better if only two colours had been used or if East Jerusalem was given a half way shade between the two colours. Is there any difference in the legal status of Golan and the West Bank? What? If not I would see it as a violation of NPOV if the map were to present Golan with the same quality as used for territories on the other side of the Green line. The type "Northern district" could be placed on a single line perhaps crossing Kinerret and into the Golan region. Something like this would keep the situation clear. Otherwise there are difficulties in presenting a content on "Districts of Israel" when significant sections of the content aren't regarded as being in Israel. GregKaye (トーク) 17:45, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

You obviously have certain opinions with regards to this subject matter, and that's fine, but the previous version was a consensus established years ago, up until you felt it needed to be changed. I don't agree with the changes.138.217.149.42 09:06, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

138.217.149.42 on the basis of what issue in Wikipedia guidelines do you disagree. GregKaye (トーク) 15:58, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Greg, I'm user 138.217.149.42, my IP address changes involuntarily from time to time. My disagreement stems from unilaterally changing the consensus establish a few years back relating to the colouring of certain territories within this image without a general agreement to change the consensus. I don't believe it is appropriate to change this image without a new consensus emerging. I also disagree because multiple users are in agreement that the map displays de facto boundaries of administration, and not de jure political boundaries. The areas of east Jerusalem and the Golan Heights should be the same colour as Israel proper because these three areas are administered in the same manner within their respective districts. I hope you can understand my point of view and this change can be undone. Thank you for your time. 137.147.45.76 02:17, 27 March 2015 (UTC)