File talk:Karl Morgenschweis prays for condemned prisoner.jpg

Wrong file name

While I do not question the identification of the chaplain as Karl Morgenschweis, I say that this photo does not show the execution of Franz (Xaver) Strasser. Strasser was executed on 10 Dec 1945, with snow on the roofs of the buildings and guards wearing parkas. On the gallows, Strasser was wearing the same unmistakable Austrian style jacket which he is wearing on all photos and videos showing him during trial: All of which does not apply to this photo. Moreover, the photos I have seen of Strasser on his execution day show the gallows WITHOUT braces between beam and uprights, and the handrail of the stairs and gallows platform UNPAINTED.

This photo should be renamed: "Karl Morgenschweis prays for unidentified war criminal.jpg" --Kauko (留言) 11:56, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Hallo @Kauko: - Thanks for bringing this up. I guess it took a long time for anyone to see your post! Do you have any more info regarding what you say in your above post? I've requested a rename of the file, and tentatively changed the description. Eric ^talk 16:02, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

(The next two posts are an excerpt copied from Eric's talkpage):

Hi Eric, it's just today that I happened to see your question on File talk: Karl Morgenschweis prays for condemned prisoner.jpg "whether I had any more info." In fact, I have. In a book I own (data see below) there is a portrait photo of Strasser on p. 49 and another one of his standing under the gallows beam on p. 50. On p. 50, his narrow face and short Austrian-style jacket are unmistakable, and one can also see that the railing is unpainted and that his MP guard is not wearing battle dress but a knee-long parka. Also, on http://traugottvitz.simplesite.com/437263933 you'll see a photo of Strasser being led to the gallows. Again, his face, hairstyle and jacket are unmistakable while the gallows in the background features the unpainted handrail and the missing braces, and you see clearly the snow on the rooftop and the parkas of the guards. (Book: Heinrich Pflanz, Der Spöttinger Friedhof in Landsberg am Lech, St. Ottilien 2004)

Best wishes, --Kauko (留言) 09:38, 21 July 2020 (UTC)Kauko

Hallo Kauko- Thanks for writing, that's good info. As you probably noticed, I got the file renamed shortly after I posted, so it's good that you brought this up back then.

So shouldn't we remove or change the photo in this article section?: de:Fliegermorde#Fliegerprozesse. I'm going to look over the other article where that photo was used to see if the captions mention Strasser. Eric ^talk 15:36, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

photo/execution date

Hi @Minderbinder: - I noticed that the date in this file's description disagrees with the date of 10 December 1945 given in the en and de WP articles (Franz Strasser, de:Franz Strasser (NS-Funktionär)). Do you know which is correct? I followed a couple ref links in those articles, but couldn't find anything definitive. Eric ^talk 15:17, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

And now, after reading the above post, I'm wondering whether this really is Strasser. Any thoughts? Eric ^talk 15:23, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Not really, or rather I don't have the time right now to dig in to those sources. So happy with the renaming. --Minderbinder (留言) 15:29, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Ok, I'll request the rename, change the description, and try reaching @Kauko: for more info. Eric ^talk 15:51, 12 November 2019 (UTC)