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Bad Russian translation:

1. Middle Eastern is not Средняя Европа, should be "Письменности Среднего Востока и Юго-Западной Азии".

2. "Письменности Индонезии и Тихого океана" -> should be "Письменности Индонезии и Океании".

--Mimocrocodylus mimocrocodylus (11:55, 26 August 2016 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 46.200.186.164 (talk) 11:56, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[回复]

Это не плохой русский перевод, это дословный перевод. А про «Средний Восток» я просто не внимательно посмотрел на Middle Eastern при переводе. Но ваш перевод лучше, поэтому я  同意. Я сообщу автору, чтобы он исправил на ваш. Спасибо. ← Aléxi̱s Spoudaíos talkrus? 06:43, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[回复]
I've updated the BMP and SMP images. Thanks for the corrections. Drmccreedy (留言) 18:04, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[回复]

Roadmap color keys

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Reason: [1]

I'm sorry to say you this but i don't feel right about the latest version of the roadmap. It is not as representative since e.g. South Asian and Central Asian scripts. I don't feel they are represented the right way and might cause confusion. As such i demand some changes to the roadmap. I'm going to use this reference: [2]

  • Separate South Asian and Central Asian scripts. The color representative of Central Asian scripts are added back.
    • REPLY: South Asian and Central Asian were grouped together back in 2015 to match The Unicode Standard (TUS)[3] chapters 12-15: South and Central Asia. I disagree with separating them. I see that they are now separate groupings in the chart navigation page on the Unicode website,[4] but that doesn't carry the same authority as TUS. Additionally, if they are separated in the legend we'll need the new legend text in seven languages: Belarusian, Dutch, English, German, Korean, Russian, and Ukrainian. If TUS splits these chapter names in the future, I would strongly support the change.Drmccreedy (留言) 20:24, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[回复]
  • The color used for "Notational Systems" in the current version will have to be expanded so can be used for combining marks (Diacritics), Punctuations, modifier letters, and notational systems. Because of this color key will be renamed "Systematic characters". What i mean by that is these characters aren't essentially symbols but systematic. This will be applied in BMP and SMP roadmaps.
  • The color used for "Linguistic scripts" will be used for Specials, C0 and C1 control characters. This color block will be named "Control characters", since they are used for the system. This will be expanded to the Variation Selectors and Variation Selectors Supplement in the Plane 14 (under different name of Variation Selectors Supplement) to conserve space as well as because they are control characters too. Take a look at w:Unicode control characters for the reason.
    • REPLY: Rather than using the w:Unicode control characters article, I'll refer to the definitive source, TUS chapter 12: Special Areas and Format Characters.[5] It doesn't refer to Variation Selectors as control characters. Also, because there are only 65 C0/C1 control characters, and because they're not contiguous, they would not show up well, if at all, on the roadmap. Therefore, I strongly disagree with these proposed changes. Drmccreedy (留言) 20:24, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[回复]
  • Because Variation Selectors had to use new colors, i had to say that color previously used by Variation Selectors in Plane 14 might had to be reused for a new style of script (Ideographs). Please note that Ideographs are separate from CJK Ideographs. Any characters that can't be considered CJK but ideographic will be included in this key. Anyways, this key will be uses in the Plane 1 and beyond. For example, Linear B ideograms. As more ideographic scripts are added in the future, this will be also expanded along with the addition of these scripts.

That's all of my requests to you. I'm sorry if i was little bit harsh, but it is clear that this roadmap needs an update. Thank you. SMB99thx XD (contribs) 06:46, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[回复]

I don't quite understand the reasoning, but if it's about how to represent Unicode's Roadmap to the BMP in the graphic File:Roadmap to Unicode BMP.svg the discussion should take place on the graphic's talk page at File talk:Roadmap to Unicode BMP.svg.
Also note that the graphic is currently used on eight wiki projects (not counting the Commons; and File:Roadmap to Unicode BMP multilingual.svg on another ten, File:Roadmap to Unicode BMP.png on another five wikis), so any changes to it have an impact on all those wikis. Love —LiliCharlie (talk) 08:14, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[回复]
Thank you. SMB99thx XD (contribs) 11:42, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[回复]

Note: I've moved this topic here from my talk page so the discussion can have a wider audience. I'll address the various requested changes when I have some time to evaluate them. Hopefully later today. Drmccreedy (留言) 17:27, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[回复]

Thanks for evaluating my requests - Based on your evaluations, my proposal is rejectes because it is violating w:Wikipedia:No original research clause 202.67.33.4 23:14, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[回复]
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