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Restaured today Sept. 16, 2023 the right version. The version restaured 10:02, 5 August 2022 (UTC) is wrong because there is no treaty between Hungary and the USSR mentioning that the first cedes Subcarpathia to the second, because the reality is that «Zakarpatska Oblast was established on 22 January 1946, after the resignation of Czechoslovakia on the territory of Subcarpathian Ruthenia (Czech: Podkarpatská Rus), incorporated into the Soviet Union and attached to the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, under a treaty between Czechoslovakia and the Soviet Union» here [1]. If the version restaured 10:02, 5 August 2022 (UTC) is is right, all Wikipedia articles what mentioned the cession of Subcarpathian Ruthenia by Czechoslovakia to USSR, are wrong. --Spiridon Ion Cepleanu (留言) 15:58, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
- There were even two treaties (1945, 1947) between Hungary and the Soviet Union, as well citing one Wiki article does not mean all Wikipedia articles would be wrong, many of the articles are not consistent or needs to be improved because of other issues. The Soviet Union started to occupy Hungary late 1944, including Transcarpathia (a local declaration had been already made regarding the union with the USSR). As Czechoslovakia was planned to be reestablished in 1945 and as before it's dissolution it owned the territory, the treaty was guaranteeing to dismiss any claims of earlier ownership (already in 1945 anyway). In fact, besides all of these, the Soviet Union held the territory since their occupation, however the ownership was internationally formalized in the Paris Peace Treaties, 1947: "The frontier between Hungary and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, from the point common to the frontier of those two States and Roumania to the point common to the frontier of those two States and Czechoslovakia, is fixed along the former frontier between Hungary and Czechoslovakia as it existed on January 1, 1938" OrionNimrod (留言) 15:25, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- Into line with the hungarian nationalist PoV-pushing, this map falsely shows since August 5, 2022, that Ruthenia would have been ceded to the USSR by Hungary. Hungary administered Ruthenia from March 15, 1939 to March 28, 1945, and Czechoslovakia then regained civilian control until March 29, 1945. Furthermore, the Hungarian administration of Ruthenia was not recognized by the United Nations, but only by the Axis. It is for this reason that Ruthenia have been ceded to the USSR by Czechoslovakia (Soviet-Czechoslovak treaty of June 29, 1945) as we can verify here: Frantisek Nemec & Vladimir Moudry, The Soviet Seizure of Subcarpathian Ruthenia, Hyperion Press, Toronto, 1955 (Reprint edition: November 1, 1980), ISBN 0-8305-0085-5 and here [2]. There is no source, no argument and no verification which can convince an ethusiastic magyar nationalist, who will always seek to consider the sources which contradict him as irrelevant, to accuse his opponents of bad faith and to use Wikipedian rules to preserve texts and documents in their inaccurate state, seeking sources that support his opinion. Nice situation, isn't it ?
- Into line with the hungarian nationalist PoV-pushing, this map falsely shows since August 5, 2022, that Ruthenia would have been ceded to the USSR by Hungary. Hungary administered Ruthenia from March 15, 1939 to March 28, 1945, and Czechoslovakia then regained civilian control until March 29, 1945. Furthermore, the Hungarian administration of Ruthenia was not recognized by the United Nations, but only by the Axis. It is for this reason that Ruthenia have been ceded to the USSR by Czechoslovakia (Soviet-Czechoslovak treaty of June 29, 1945) as we can verify here: Frantisek Nemec & Vladimir Moudry, The Soviet Seizure of Subcarpathian Ruthenia, Hyperion Press, Toronto, 1955 (Reprint edition: November 1, 1980), ISBN 0-8305-0085-5 and here [2]. There is no source, no argument and no verification which can convince an ethusiastic magyar nationalist, who will always seek to consider the sources which contradict him as irrelevant, to accuse his opponents of bad faith and to use Wikipedian rules to preserve texts and documents in their inaccurate state, seeking sources that support his opinion. Nice situation, isn't it ?
