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Can somebody please look into this:

History books claim that Australia wasn't "discovered" until 1606. Even if it was discovered before 1606, this map can absolutely not be from 1599, since the coastline of Australia didn't appear in this detail on world maps until the 17th century had really progressed.

There is a Wright-Molyneux map from 1599, but that one doesn't show Australia. However, there is a Wright map from 1657 (?), I think the maps got mixed up by the person who wrote the description of this particular map.

--124.149.156.239 06:02, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[回覆]

I would second this - this is an impossibility for a map from 1599 - would suggest, as previous editor has noted - that this is a mislabeling of a later map. This is identical to the later 'PLAT OF THE WORLD' - see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:A_plat_of_all_the_world_-_Norman_B._Leventhal_Map_Center_at_the_BPL.jpg

We should update this information or find the original Wright map.


I have ample documentation that this is in fact the 1655 (published 1657) Wright-Moxon map. Here is a link proving it: Zoomable and Hi Res downloadable image of 1655 (1657 pub) Wright-Moxon Map The link is to the John Carter Brown Library of Brown University, RI. They allow you to download resolutions up to 12,288 px and from what I can tell they let you use the images without restriction...they simply attach "Original in the John Carter Brown Library at Brown University" at the bottom of the downloads. They even give you code to embed their zoomable tool LUNA into your web page.

BTW, the Book "The Mapping of the World: Early Printed World Maps 1472 to 1700," by Rodney W. Shirley" tells the story of why there is such confusion with the series of maps known as "Wright-Molyneux" and "Wright-Moxon."

1. In 1599 Edward Wright purportedly took the 1592 globe of Molyneux and projected it onto a flat Mercator map. There is a correct Wikipedia Commons entry for this, the real 1599 Wright-Molyneux Map. Here are links proving this: Left side of 1599 Wright Molyneux and Right side of 1599 Wright Molyneux. 2. In 1610 William Kip simply enlarged the 1599 Map with no updates. 3. In 1657 Joseph Moxon took the enlarged Kip map and added a very significant number of updates for all the discoveries from 1599 to 1657. For example, 1599 did not show Hudson or Baffin Bays, but the 1657 does. 4. Map sellers have confused people by not giving a date for the 1657 map, calling it something like "State 3 of the original 1599 Wright Molyneux Map." It confuses new researchers, who start quoting each other, and suddenly the 1657 Map is called the 1599 Map.

So I just created an Wikimedia Commons Account to fix this. Can someone explain what needs to be done? Thanks. — 以上未簽名的留言是由該使用者加入的: Hjtripp (留言 • 貢獻) 05:21, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[回覆]