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File:Hemidactylus frenatus (Common House Gecko) on white background, focus stacking.jpg, featured[edit]
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- Category: Commons:Featured pictures/Animals/Reptiles
- Info Hemidactylus frenatus (Common House Gecko) on white background, in Laos. Focus stacking from 20 pictures shot in studio. Created by User:Basile Morin - uploaded by User:Basile Morin - nominated by User:Ikan Kekek -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:27, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- Support - Geckos are really small, so this picture is kind of absurdly big and detailed, and it's pretty crazy that Basile was able to focus stack a living creature. I see a little motion blur only on part of the tail. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:27, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- Comment Looks more like it wasn't neatly stacked. I also find the crumbs disturbing, especially the fly leg. Has the gecko just had breakfast?--Ermell (talk) 07:35, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- Comment - If it's a stacking error, I'd like to see it be taken care of. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:42, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- Done Not sure I understand well the problem with the focus stacking job, as I handled it very carefully and really don't see major problem here honestly. I've uploaded a new version with the very minor issues corrected, please add a note if there's something else I've missed, but yes Ikan is right it is not easy at all to photograph a living creature so close and to make 20 shots at different focuses in these conditions. So for the tail not completely sharp I agree but I'm afraid this is not improvable. Focus stacking is a choice, otherwise f/32 would not be as sharp, nor as detailed with this DoF -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:42, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- Support Thanks, Ikan, for the nomination. Reasonable size to look at IMO 6 Mpx -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:42, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- Support -- Johann Jaritz (talk) 11:39, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- Support Geckos can keep still for a long time, waiting for a prey, but still... Really amazing work! --Yann (talk) 12:28, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- Comment - That's true. I've observed them doing that. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:21, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- Support --Ermell (talk) 13:30, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose I'm fairly impressed by this focus stack of a living creature and would support it as such, but there are too many out-of-focus areas on the center of the skin and around edges to consider it FP quality. I'm positive this could all be fixed by careful, but more involved cloning work. – Lucas 16:25, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- This work is a composition of 20 pictures, not 30, since it was not possible to take more shots without the gecko starts moving. At this moment the reptile was breathing, which means the shape of the stomach was evolving in time, and thus a very special rhythm had to be followed for each picture. It's not as easy as with an inanimate object. If I had these parts available in focus, certainly the composition would be more accurate there, but now they're missing unfortunately, because of the manual procedure. Creating a fake object with artificial patches coming from different areas is not my taste, and would not be better on a realistic level. So I keep it with its minor technical issues. The technique is mentioned in the description, so the viewer should understand why there are soft areas. You can't invent the pixels, especially on the edges : they're just not here, when you focus on the foreground, the background is blurry, and when you focus on the background the foreground becomes half opaque, over, due to the scale ratio proportionate to the distance, and also due to the irregular texture. It's mainly an optical obstacle, certainly similar to every subject of this nature. But this resolution is large enough for excellent quality prints. If it's too big, we can downsize it at 2000 px large, 2500 px large, 3000 px large, and even 3500 px large, still acceptable in my view. But requesting extreme sharpness here like a knife blade is a bit nitpicking IMO. This coleoptera had its back leg totally out of focus because the animal moved too early, and the resulting picture was however a big success in FP -- Basile Morin (talk) 05:59, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
- Support --Dmitry A. Mottl (talk) 17:05, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose per Lucas, the various patches of blur on the tail are rather obvious and cause the image to look strange. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 02:39, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
- Just imagine the gecko moved its tail a little little bit -- Basile Morin (talk) 05:59, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
- Support --Isiwal (talk) 08:38, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Per Lucas too many out-of-focus areas. Means the stack is not well done. All in all it is not very sharp, I miss contrast and the subject is too bright. The composition isn't appealing for me because of the "white" background and this unnatural environment. --Hockei (talk) 12:22, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
- It's very sharp at lower resolution, and all is sharp, from head to tail. The white background is a choice (like here or here) to present the animal in its morphology. It will be perfect for captions like this, for example. Although I find pictures of animals in their environment very valuable, one kind of photography doesn't exclude the other(s), I think. Concerning the lighting, it couldn't be better IMO, diffuse lamps illuminate every part and also avoid harsh shadows -- Basile Morin (talk) 12:50, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
- Expecting a focus stack of a living thing to be tack sharp in every part is strange to me. The level of detail is amazing. If you think you can do better, please do. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:13, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
- Indeed it's an impressive feat, but for 17 MP full-frame you can go to f/16 with very little diffraction, allowing you to capture it with the same number of frames but with much more consistent sharpness. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:54, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
- In my experience, there's a visible difference between f/8 and f/16, but the main problem with large DoF pictures in focus stacking is the amount of errors generated in the process, even with the excellent software Helicon Focus I use, the sharp patches overlay, creating frequently undesirable ghosts -- Basile Morin (talk) 07:48, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
- Support Daniel Case (talk) 04:49, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
- Support -- Karelj (talk) 08:56, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
- Support Now this is a pretty useful image. And a lot of work behind it, too. --GeXeS (talk) 12:46, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
- Support --Harlock81 (talk) 00:51, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
- Support --Aristeas (talk) 08:50, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
- Support - minor imperfections aside, good quality and very useful image. Renata3 (talk) 15:10, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
Confirmed results:
Result: 13 support, 3 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /--A.Savin 13:07, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Animals/Reptiles