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File:Long khanh fallen.jpg, featured

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• Category: Commons:Featured pictures/People#People at work
•  Info created by Paul Epley - uploaded by Movieevery (first version by Mattflaschen) - nominated by Habitator terrae -- Habitator terrae 🌍 09:46, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
•  Support -- Habitator terrae 🌍 09:46, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
•  Comment - Seems worth a star to me, but the remains of the white border of the photograph on the left have to be removed before I could vote to support. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:39, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

   Info  Done --Habitator terrae 🌍 11:09, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

•  Support An historic photo illustrating the gritty effects of war.--Peulle (talk) 17:16, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
•  Support per Peulle. Nice timing (just before what we in the U.S. celebrate as Veterans' Day, but one that has special importance in the Western world this year ...) Daniel Case (talk) 23:02, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
•  Question Reading the description, I wonder if these two soldiers holding explosive grenades around their hips regret the death of their killed fellow, or the end of the day's battle. It's in 1966, so the attack is not finished. The way it's described, this picture is too much compassionate towards this pair of responsible aggressors -- Basile Morin (talk) 05:33, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

From what I've heard from people who've seen the elephant, and read from people who've written about it, they probably regret both. They of course feel the former, but don't want to admit to the latter. But both regrets are very real. Daniel Case (talk) 06:47, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

 Info The description is written by the NARA [1], I don't understand, why they should tell wrong things. Habitator terrae 🌍 09:26, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Not wrong nor true, just the question "why ?" is ambiguous in my view. Perhaps a grenade exploded too early -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:00, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

 Info There is an excellent TV-series about that war you can get hold of. It tell a lot about how complicated it was with many mistakes, regrets and misconceptions. --Cart (talk) 10:35, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

•  Support. Basile, have you talked to or read accounts from conscripts? And even if they enlisted, it doesn't mean they knew what they were getting into. The grenades are part of their professional equipment and don't preclude any feelings. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:58, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

• The US dropped 2 million tons of bombs on Laos during the Vietnam war, making Laos the most heavily bombed country in history relative to the size of its population, while the country was not at all engaged in the war. Everyday now bombs are exploding and killing Lao citizens, so it's difficult in this context to hear that "grenades are just part of professional equipment" -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:00, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

• Lao People's Armed Forces don't use grenades? --Cart (talk) 11:56, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

• No, Laos was not engaged in this conflict. As far as I know, Vietnamese won the war. And they were at home -- Basile Morin (talk) 12:11, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

• My friend, my parents were strong and early opponents of the U.S. involvement in Vietnam. I remember as a toddler being carried piggyback on my mother's shoulders down 5th Avenue, Manhattan in candlelight vigils against the war. I'm well aware of the nature of that war. That doesn't mean I condemn all individuals who served in the U.S. Military for the policies set by the country's leadership, nor that I'm unable to try to see things from the point of view of an American soldier, but I can understand how you might be unable to put yourself in his shoes. I guess some people might have the same reaction to a picture of a Japanese or German soldier during World War II, and yet would that make it not an FP? For what it's worth, I had a friend who was a big supporter of Barry Goldwater in 1964 and volunteered for the Marines. Once he had served a tour of duty in Vietnam, he realized how terrible the war was. He fled to Canada instead of serving a second tour of duty and became a pacifist, as did quite a few former soldiers, and a socialist. He doubtless carried his firearms and whatever else was standard issue for the Marines during his tour of duty. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:37, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

•  Support --S. DÉNIEL (talk) 10:19, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
•  Support --Cart (talk) 10:29, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
•  Support--Agnes Monkelbaan (talk) 14:57, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
•  Support --Ermell (talk) 23:07, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
•  Support --Famberhorst (talk) 06:17, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
•  Support but I would change the category to "Historical". --Yann (talk) 18:17, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

• Agreed. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:59, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Confirmed results:

Result: 10 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /--A.Savin 13:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

This image will be added to the FP gallery: Historical