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File:Physical map of Ancient Greece-ru1.png, not featured[edit]
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- Info created by Пётр Тарасьев - uploaded by Пётр Тарасьев - nominated by Пётр Тарасьев -- Пётр Тарасьев (talk) 18:27, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support -- Пётр Тарасьев (talk) 18:27, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- What's the difference with the map above. Objection about the langage stands. No link to category above. Yann (talk) 08:40, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Comment As a philhellene I am always interested in good maps of Hellas. Indeed this seems to be a fine map, not the most detailed I have ever seen, but certainly good and very useful – bravo! However I have to confess that I expect such a map to use either (1) ancient Greek captions (original names and spelling) or (2) Latin captions (as traditional in history books) or (3) English captions (just because English is the lingua franca of our epoch) or (4) multilingual captions in a SVG. I have the highest respect for the rich Russian language, but I don’t see it as appropriate for a map of Greece – just as I would not welcome French, German, … captions for such a map. Best, --Aristeas (talk) 09:28, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Aristeas Thank you very much)))) The source file itself is in svg format. I will work further on the map (change fonts for the wiki engine and reduce the file size - I don't know how yet). The map itself was conceived so that amateurs could translate it into their own language. Пётр Тарасьев (talk) 10:53, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Пётр Тарасьев: I understand. Well, in theory I could even try to help with the translation; e.g. I could try to make a version with the names in the original ancient Greek. I think it would be most easy if you could manage to get a working SVG version uploaded; then we could try to make it a mulitlingual SVG file. — But at the moment, I have to confess that I have almost no free time (I am moving to another home in another city). Maybe you could contact = remind me later, e.g. in October, then we could try to figure out how I can help in the best way. Best, --Aristeas (talk) 09:03, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Aristeas I wrote you down, I will then rewrite the map into Latin and let's see what can be done from ancient Greek) (and I know what). Пётр Тарасьев (talk) 13:14, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hello @Пётр Тарасьев: sorry for not answering earlier. I am sorry but I have almost no time at the moment. I will be back for constructive work and cooperation in the 2nd half of September or at the beginning of October. Best regards, --Aristeas (talk) 10:50, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Пётр Тарасьев: I understand. Well, in theory I could even try to help with the translation; e.g. I could try to make a version with the names in the original ancient Greek. I think it would be most easy if you could manage to get a working SVG version uploaded; then we could try to make it a mulitlingual SVG file. — But at the moment, I have to confess that I have almost no free time (I am moving to another home in another city). Maybe you could contact = remind me later, e.g. in October, then we could try to figure out how I can help in the best way. Best, --Aristeas (talk) 09:03, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- The file is also missing categories. Yann (talk) 20:18, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Yann Added categories Пётр Тарасьев (talk) 13:08, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- The file is also missing categories. Yann (talk) 20:18, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support Wow, I'm thoroughly impressed. This must be by far the most professional-looking map I've seen here in years (!). Commons is a multi-lingual project, so there's nothing wrong with it being in Russian per se. Sure, I'd personally prefer it to be in English, but as far as I can see, all the labels have been placed very carefully. That's not something you quickly switch to another language on a lazy afternoon. The only thing I don't particularly like is the color scale: It is relatively low-contrast over-all, but then the colors for 800-1000 and 1000-1200m really pop out. I'd like a bit more balance there. Oh, and maybe putting the title on top of the map would make the whole layout feel a bit more balanced, right now there is a lot white space between the map and the legend. --El Grafo (talk) 07:27, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, and since this doesn't seem to be an equidistant map projection, the scale bar in km doesn't make much sense to me. For longitude, 1° = 111.3 km is only true at the equator, at 40° latitude it's more like 1° = 85km. --El Grafo (talk) 07:42, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- @El Grafo I didn’t delve into it, I just accurately copied the grid.Пётр Тарасьев (talk) 13:16, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- @El Grafo Thank you very much)))) I'm struggling with this file and will soon make an svg file of this map while I'm having problems with vector graphics. Пётр Тарасьев (talk) 13:10, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, and since this doesn't seem to be an equidistant map projection, the scale bar in km doesn't make much sense to me. For longitude, 1° = 111.3 km is only true at the equator, at 40° latitude it's more like 1° = 85km. --El Grafo (talk) 07:42, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose I don't like a map of Greek history with Russian text. The map does not include all of Ancient Greece. Charlesjsharp (talk) 12:14, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose per Charles' second statement. --SHB2000 (talk) 09:43, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose Same as other map created and nominated by you. I think it should be in Greek or English. This could be a FP illustration in the Russian Wikipedia, but its usage will be limited in the English Wikipedia and it certainly will not be used in the Greek Wikipedia. -- Pofka (talk) 08:41, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Pofka what is FP illustration?Пётр Тарасьев (talk) 10:05, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Пётр Тарасьев: Various languages Wikipedias have the right to recognize images as FP only in their respective projects (e.g. Wikipedia:Featured pictures). I believe this is the case, unless you will create alternative maps with English/Greek texts. -- Pofka (talk) 10:36, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Pofka That is, it was necessary to put this map directly into the Russian Wikipedia and not into the Wikimedia Commons? Пётр Тарасьев (talk) 10:39, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Пётр Тарасьев: My knowledge about FP recognition in language-based Wikipedia projects is quite limited. However, I have seen files in Commons which have templates saying that the file was recognized as FP in language-based Wikipedia projects (e.g. this image which is a FP in the Persian Wikipedia and is currently nominated for FP in Commons). So probably you can nominate Commons files for recognition as FP in the Russian Wikipedia as well. Though, I'm unable to find link to the Russian Wikipedia in the left side tool bar "Other languages" HERE, so I'm not sure if the Russian Wikipedia have such a procedure at all. -- Pofka (talk) 10:49, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Pofka Understood. Thanks for the answer. Пётр Тарасьев (talk) 10:52, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Pofka I looked and didn't find the Russian Wikipedia FP, all candidates from all languages are forwarded here. Пётр Тарасьев (talk) 17:03, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Пётр Тарасьев: My knowledge about FP recognition in language-based Wikipedia projects is quite limited. However, I have seen files in Commons which have templates saying that the file was recognized as FP in language-based Wikipedia projects (e.g. this image which is a FP in the Persian Wikipedia and is currently nominated for FP in Commons). So probably you can nominate Commons files for recognition as FP in the Russian Wikipedia as well. Though, I'm unable to find link to the Russian Wikipedia in the left side tool bar "Other languages" HERE, so I'm not sure if the Russian Wikipedia have such a procedure at all. -- Pofka (talk) 10:49, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Pofka That is, it was necessary to put this map directly into the Russian Wikipedia and not into the Wikimedia Commons? Пётр Тарасьев (talk) 10:39, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Пётр Тарасьев: Various languages Wikipedias have the right to recognize images as FP only in their respective projects (e.g. Wikipedia:Featured pictures). I believe this is the case, unless you will create alternative maps with English/Greek texts. -- Pofka (talk) 10:36, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
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Result: 2 support, 3 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /--A.Savin 00:38, 3 September 2022 (UTC)