Commons:Valued image candidates/Curling Torino 2006 Pinerolo Palaghiaccio scena2.jpg

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Curling Torino 2006 Pinerolo Palaghiaccio scena2.jpg

promoted
Image
Nominated by Slaunger on 2008-06-01 00:59 (UTC)
Scope Nominated as the most valued image on Commons within the scope:
Curling
Used in

Global usage

Bemidji Curling Club, de:Curling, pl:Curling, nl:Curling (sport), and six other WMF project content pages
Review
(criteria)

Previous reviews

 Info Renomination of test promoted VIC. -- Slaunger 00:59, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Oppose as not yet eligible for VI status. Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it cannot at present become a valued image since it currently fails valued image criterion 5 (should be geocoded, but is not). It should be geocoded. I have not reviewed the nomination against all the criteria, but if you are able to fix this issue and would like me to re-evaluate the image please leave me a message on my talk page. – flamurai 21:07, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Comment Hmmm... I would like to challenge that failure to fulfill criteria 5. There are exceptions to criteria 5, one of which is "non-place-related shots" and "studio shots". Although it is a specific place (in Turin at the Winter olympics 2006 accroding to the image page), the scope curling is inherently a non-place subject (except is has to be at a place where you can play curling), so I do not see it adds much value to have geodata on this image. For me the image page description of the location and non-place specific scope makes the cut. -- Slaunger 22:50, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • That's a good point, but I disagree that criteria 5 should be based on scope. The rule is written clearly: "All images are expected to be geocoded unless it would not be appropriate to do so." In this case, the place where the event is taking place is known. There is no reason not to geocode it. I feel the VI criteria are in two sets: specific (nos. 1-3), and general (nos. 4-6). Of course the latter 3 must apply to the scope, but they must also hold generally. For example, if a photo of the Empire State Building is used in the scope "skyscraper", location doesn't matter since it's used to illustrate the generic concept of "skyscraper", but there's no reason to leave out geocoding. Part of the value of hypertext/wiki is that images can have these extra layers of important information. – flamurai 23:50, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Info I have added (approximate) geodata (city center of the small town in which it was held according to Curling at the 2006 Winter Olympics). As I have written on the COM:VIC talk page I wish I could add a precision parameter to the geodata. -- Slaunger 14:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Info I was able to find the address of the arena, and have updated the geocode. This is one of the reasons I like criteria 4-6... they motivate users to provide as much information as possible on the image, not just enough to get by in a chosen scope. – flamurai 21:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Meets all criteria. – flamurai 21:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support I don't believe either that geocoding is really relevant for this case, but as it has been geocoded now let's keep it. Part from that I find the photograph to be fine for portraying this sport. --EPO 16:09, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Result: 2 support =>
Promoted. -- Slaunger 20:31, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]