Commons:Valued image candidates/Musée Ingres-Bourdelle - Bélisaire - Jean-François-Pierre Peyron - Joconde06070000188.jpg

Musée Ingres-Bourdelle - Bélisaire - Jean-François-Pierre Peyron - Joconde06070000188.jpg

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Nominated by	Archaeodontosaurus (talk) on 2020-08-21 04:32 (UTC)
Scope	Nominated as the most valued image on Commons within the scope: Musée Ingres-Bourdelle - copy of Bélisaire - Jean-François-Pierre Peyron (Belisarius)
Used in	Global usage
Review (criteria)	Support Useful and an awesome painting! I think the scope should specify that this is a copy of a painting by Peyron. Does the original still exist? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:02, 22 August 2020 (UTC) Ikan Kekek Yes it is in Toulouse at the Musée des Augustins but its condition does not allow it to be exhibited. The museum itself has been undergoing renovations for several years. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 04:57, 22 August 2020 (UTC)  Comment I see. Could you add that explanation to your file description? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:30, 22 August 2020 (UTC) *  Comment There is already much better: in the caption it is the reference line which contains the link with the base Joconde. The sheet (alas in French) gives a very interesting history on this canvas and the one I placed next. It seems that they belonged to the Cardinal de Pierre de Bernis. This Cardinal was Prime Minister of Louis XV. But he is best known for having been a friend of Casanova. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 18:10, 22 August 2020 (UTC)  Comment Good and definitely interesting. I still think this scope needs to indicate that this is a copy of the painting, though. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:48, 23 August 2020 (UTC) * Comment Yes no problem, but should we put a copy or a sketch? As at this stage the debate remains open I suggest to put: sketch or copy. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 04:53, 23 August 2020 (UTC)  Comment I don't see how this could be a sketch. Is it at all sketchy compared to the original? In other words, are any forms deliberately simplified? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:49, 23 August 2020 (UTC)  Comment Here is in link the sheet of the painting of Toulouse here : that of Montauban is indeed smaller and has been repainted. So it is very possible that it is a sketch. The author of this painting was the teacher of David. Chance wanted, that I put in the competition, a sketch of David on the same subject. In this case the draft table is indeed smaller and less neat than the different versions that David made.  Comment I'm not seeing a sketch. It can be a smaller copy. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:45, 23 August 2020 (UTC) *  Comment let's add copy. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 04:45, 24 August 2020 (UTC) Result: 1 support, 0 oppose => promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 04:29, 25 August 2020 (UTC)