User talk:R-41

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Hi R-41, I noticed your work on the political flags gallery and I'd like to make a proposition: Let's exclude current sovereign-state flags as well as current official flags of country subdivisions from this gallery! The rationale for this is that practically every single national and regional flag could be interpreted as nationalist in some sense. They also have separate galleries of their own. Let's try and limit it to explicitly nationalist flags, including historical sovereign-state designs that still are used by such movements. --Himasaram 06:12, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Hint: it's possible to make wikilinks to Wikipedia by prefixing them with w: as in w:Anarchism etc. --Himasaram 01:50, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 Flag of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia (state) 1.1 Flags of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia - colours 2 Flag of Croatia 3 Naval Jack of Croatia 4 Russian flag 5 Image:Flag of Italy (1861-1946) crowned.svg 6 Image:Flag_of_the_Kingdom_of_Yugoslavia_(state).svg 7 SFRJ flags 8 Nobody is harasing you, you are seeing ghosts man 9 Image:CoA of the Regia Aeronautica.svg 10 Image:Flag of Italy (1861-1946) crowned.svg 11 Flags of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia 12 Hi 13 Please ask first... 14 Imbris 15 Re:Fasces designs for Mussolini's personal flag 16 Re:Need help 17 Image:HinduSwastika.svg 18 Image:Flag of Prussia 1933.svg 19 Category:Vulgar image on Wikimedia Commons 20 Over-categorization 21 Sources for Blank World Map 1939 22 Major image loss: Image Flag of Germany 1933.svg 23 Image Tagging Image:AHWiensf.jpg 24 Royal flag of Italy 25 Flags of Fascist Italy 26 Image talk:Flag of Italian Fascism.svg 27 COA Spain 28 Creating categories 29 File:Mussd.jpg 30 File:Fascist Headquarters - 1934.jpg 31 File:Flag of Croatia 2 by 3 No COA.svg 32 Can you make a sVG ... 33 Re:Darkening blue on the 1861-1946 flag and the Regia Marina flags 34 Please link images 35 World Map

[edit] Flag of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia (state)

This, what you say, most likely colouring is not a fact, because this was a union of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes that just changed its name from Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes. Do not change something simply because you think that this is correct. It is simply not. -- Rainman 21:21, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flags of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia - colours

I agree that FotW suggested dubious colours. I have not seen such CMYK 100-70-0-0 for blue nor 0-90-75-5 for red. But those colours are just aproximations from only one book. FotW use aproximations also they use B++ (RGB 0-0-153) for blue and R (RGB 255-0-0) for red.

I have not asked for the colours to be changed, but simply asked to leave them as they were. There is no need to claim that those colours came from some modern sources (FRY, SCG or SRB).

Rainman 20:49, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Flag of Croatia

You reference yourself to some website, and not on the Croatian law. -- Rainman 21:21, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

If you do not understand the Constitutional system of Croatia simply say and someone will come to answer you. The Parliament of Croatia is the only institution who can define the Flag and the CoA. The Government is not the institution which can can do anything. Your practice to go ahead with changes simply because you saw something in front of some institutions is not a correct practice because the vexillologist cannot depend on institutions do do the work, they (sometimes must do the work themselves). You have not discussed the change, and your changes will be reverted. The discussion in which several users participated have been held and a compromise have been found. So your help is not neccessary if you want to contribute from one source only. That picture from the Government is even not the property of the Government but one single person - G. Bartram (if I remember correctly).

Rainman 21:10, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Also distinguished FotW members would comment any action which takes in account the Governmental used variations of some Flag or other symbols as not qualified to participate in any discussion on FotW. See Image:Flag of Serbia CMYK.svg as an example of how misleading can be the statements of the National Assembly of Serbia concerning that graphical standard (done by someone who did not present his/her name and surname). Do you want we go that way and move that image to the Flag of Serbia.svg. I did not hear you, you said NO; I thought as much. Please do not start an edit war without any proof for your claim. -- Rainman 21:25, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

This is a clear case of revenge towards me. I would advise against your futille attempts to start a meaningless discussion about the one source you found. If you meant discuss on the basis of one source only then that discussion is pointless. However I will go along and remind you that I have helped the Image talk:Flag of Serbia.svg in solving its colour problem and have also helped the Image talk:Flag of Slovenia.svg. Why are you doing this - it is beyond my understanding. As I have told you - I do not have anything against your work but you must learn to build on what previous editors have done in the past. -- Rainman 22:53, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Naval Jack of Croatia

Hi. I saw that you corected the blue color on the Image:Naval Ensign of Croatia.svg. Can u please do the same thing with the Image:Naval Jack of Croatia.svg. You can see the original color here (at the bottom) (Its a croatian Regulation). Thnks --Suradnik13 20:45, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Russian flag

I understand you wish for the Russian flag to be accurate color wise. The problem is the following; the last website you used as a source, they get their colors wrong a lot. A lot of the Pantone suggestions are either coming from a French flag book or have no source at all. I suggest to email a Russian flag maker or the Russian Government to see what Pantone colors are used for the flag. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return fire)} 19:17, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Flag of Italy (1861-1946) crowned.svg

Hi R-41, I don't think that your modification is totally wrong, but IMHO I think the colour is too much brighter and destaturated. See this images:

• [1]
• [2]
• [3]
• [4]

The name of the colour could be "blue Savoy". I try to find some reference about this colour. --F l a n k e r 13:44, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I've found only this: http://books.google.com/books?id=Wdl4SYM4oUsC&pg=PA71&lpg=PA71&dq=%22blu+savoia%22&source=web&ots=YTd4SegEjW&sig=CdXjXPkAPF1IzULH6pqKrkkmQVA

It seems that blue Savoy (blu Savoia in Italian) is a blue darker than bluastro (i can traslate with bluish) and lighter than peacock blue. Is more saturated than periwinkle blue lesser than peacock blue. --F l a n k e r 13:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I've found also this colour photo of the flag http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6353/95d7cmgc4.jpg that may be handy. This is blue Savoy:

What do you think about it? --F l a n k e r 00:18, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

The colour seems fine to me.--R-41 05:16, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Flag_of_the_Kingdom_of_Yugoslavia_(state).svg

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Imbris 01:20, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] SFRJ flags

I just found this page. Honestly, can you tell me which book this came from? User:Zscout370 ^{(Return fire)} 01:56, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nobody is harasing you, you are seeing ghosts man

That kind of discussion is simply not right. I have never insulted you and you know it. I have every right to call certain uploads (better said updates) as baseless. Your tactic is not going to work on me because threats lead to nothing. Your attempt are clear to every single man, woman and child who lived in Yugoslavia. This attempts are not permissable and could lead to OR. If you are so sure of your actions then explain them. You should not judge users but their arguments. I do not judge you but the lack of arguments on your part. You are well aware that colours of the Serbian flag have not been constant during all time and time periods. Look at the last few changes of the Image:Flag of Serbia.svg. Your attempt to use your own "logic" that those Yugoslav colours of the past should look the same as today (modern) Serbian colours are un-encyclopaedical and based on your hunches and "gut feeling". This is not a permissable approach according to any Wiki policy and could be called "historical revisionism" at least and "orriginal research" at most. I repeat - if you have sources for your actions then volunteer those sources to the "discussion table". -- Rainman 00:37, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Funny this is clearly the tactics comparable to Panonian or Pax. -- Rainman 01:54, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

You should answer?! Nobody has written anything about those two being good or bad. :) -- Rainman 02:19, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I see that you accused me at the Commons:Village pump#How do I report uncivil behaviour of a user?. This would be OK if I really insulted you or said anything remotely uncivil. This was not my intention for you to feel that way. Nevertheless I expect you to withdraw your request for help at the village pump. This would be a starting point of a good and coleaguelly manner of doing business between you and me. -- Rainman 02:33, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I have on the other hand just used your colours that were posted before this recent changes, so no harm done. -- Rainman 03:26, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Why have you insisted on claims that you use colours which were created by me, when I clearly indicated to you that I meerely reverted to colours/images that were present before your uploads. -- Rainman 22:46, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:CoA of the Regia Aeronautica.svg

Sorry, I've reverted the image because the photo you use as example shows a new decalcomania of the original coat of arms (a restored aircraft photographed at the museum at Vigna di Valle). I have a photo of the original coat from an old scrap of the tail (also this from the museum at Vigna di Valle) that have the colours I've used. However your colours can be right tinking at the discoloration of the time passed, so I'm not sure that I've done the right thing reverting the image. --F l a n k e r 20:09, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Flag of Italy (1861-1946) crowned.svg

You source are not so correct, but an araldic crown is not unique, so I've uploaded your version to Image:Flag of Italy (1861-1946) crowned alternate.svg. --F l a n k e r 09:19, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I just tell you that the images you use as source are not so correct. I used various original photos that I simply can't upload here. --F l a n k e r 12:11, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Here you have a good image of the crown: [5].

And here another one: [6]. The original source is the Royal Decree of 1st January 1890, here you can find a copy of the text: www.consiglioaraldico.com, but unfortunately not an image of the crown. --F l a n k e r 00:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Mhmm, I like your modifications, but I read from the Royal Decree that the base of the crown is adorned by 8 big saphires (5 of them visible), each one circled by 12 gems. So I think that the colours of the big gems must be the same. Is the colour of the saphire azure? --F l a n k e r 09:08, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

The type of the gem, in heraldry, is indicated expecially for give the colour. I found this image:3521 - Milano - Galleria Vittorio Emanuele - Corona Savoia - Foto Giovanni Dall'Orto, 22-June-2007.jpg, that shows almost blue saphires. So I think that, for this detail, the colour of the images taken as source is wrong. --F l a n k e r 19:30, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Flags of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia

I do not know why again changing the colours First you changed the FRY/SCG period to match the presumed colours of the kingdom era then you are changing the SFRY era to match FRY/SCG and in the same time try to change SR Serbia and SR Montenegro to match all those colours and in the future to match the colours of the Flag of Serbia. This attempt is void and I beg of you not to impose on this community your dubious sources for flag colours.

Let me remind you that firstly you changed the kingdom era colours to match the flag of Serbia, then you tryed that tactics once more (with the new and correct colours of Serbia) then you tryed to impose on all the flags of the former socialist republics of the former SFRY the same colours and now this (what I have described above). Why are you doing such unsourced work?

Rainman 22:00, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

I know Rainman from croatian wikipedia (Goran on :hr). Now he is blocked there. I'm just waiting for a right moment to ask admins for blocking him. If you ask first, i will support you :)) --Suradnik13 17:43, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

He has been blocked here by me, with the time frame of indefinite. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return fire)} 20:09, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Aaaa nice:))) I didn't see that :))) --Suradnik13 21:10, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please ask first...

Please can you ask before to modify my images? In more cases there is a reason if I do something in a some way. Thanks, F l a n k e r 10:40, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Are old edits in fact: Image:Fasces lictoriae.svg and Image:Flag of Mussolini.svg, but I found the modifications only today. --F l a n k e r 17:39, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Imbris

Yes, Imbris is a sockpuppet of Rainman. I know that for sure. We can talk by email, if you want little bit more details. Chears--Suradnik13 08:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi. As i see that Imbris is not activ from March, his "another" account probably is not a problem here. --Suradnik13 19:29, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Here i put a message on admin's notice board, so you can leave your comment there. --Suradnik13 12:12, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Blocked. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return fire)} 18:55, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Fasces designs for Mussolini's personal flag

Good finding on the http://www.germaniainternational.com/images/bookmuhitergerms23.jpg! If you think to modify the flag you can use it as a model. I'll try to find some more images. --F l a n k e r 20:53, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

• This is a good scheme of the fasces (I mean the lion head, that is a very small particular elsewere): http://specialcollections.library.wisc.edu/exhibits/Fascism/Images/Big/FRY05-550.jpeg
• Off topic: I found this flag of Italy scheme that seems accurate (but too small): http://www.1uptravel.com/flag/images/i/it~kcon.jpg. I'll try to read the proportions. --F l a n k e r 21:17, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi! I like so much your crown, that I make a more simplified version: Image:Flag of Italy (1861-1946) crowned simplified.svg. Hope you like it, I've found so many photos of the flags of the Kingdom that don't have the red toque. Cheers, F l a n k e r 20:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, I can't wait to see your work! For the name of the image I prefer Image:Flag_of_Prime_Minister_of_Italy_(1922-1943).svg, but the name you suggest it's OK too. I think you don't need autorizations becouse the licence on Commons all permit modifications of the original images, but if not so you have my autorization. Cheers, F l a n k e r 09:39, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Perfect! Very well done! I think the original don't have the lion head so detailed, but the rest is very close. Ok also about the yellow, I'll correct the rest of the flags. Thank you for your precious work! --F l a n k e r 09:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Need help

Hi R-41, sorry for the delay. Honestly I think I'm not an expert of the matter, so I don't know how to help you. If I understend it well, it's about the colours of the flag. If so, I don't have any reference to help you. Sorry again, F l a n k e r 11:31, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:HinduSwastika.svg

Hello!

You right! This isn't symbol of NSDAP. But is very very resemblance. In many coutries who use swastika otherwise than education perpetrate a crime! France, Poland, Germany... Crime! We must add {{nazi symbol}} in every site with swastika. A thousand GENERATIONS will pass and still this guilt of swastika will not have been erased. --Starscream (talk) 19:33, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Flag of Prussia 1933.svg

Hello! Do you have a source for this image. I am wondering about the spelling of "Gott mitt uns". "mitt" is written with one "t". --Patrick (talk) 19:36, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Vulgar image on Wikimedia Commons

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TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 22:24, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I think you misunderstand the rules of Wikimedia. Wikipedia and Commons are not censored and subjects like pornography (for instance) is an encyclopedical subject as any other one. So it could be illustrated if we have any pictures that would respect both laws and rules of Wikimedia. Therefore vulgarity is not a criteria of deletion. Also the creation of such a category is not a correct way to inform administrators about hypothetical abuse. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 22:33, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Also, pictures like that one can't be described as "vulgar". It's a caricature, it's criticism. You may think it's "too much" and you may disagree with the POV of the drawing. But banning such picture would mean there's a total lack of neutrality on Wikimedia projects. Wikimedia is not made to judge but to inform people about reality and the diversity of our world. Users have to understand that some images may be against their own POV or way of life. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 22:39, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I personally don't think that Wikipedia is a place for the depiction of pornography and demeaning material. > you're not the only one here and you're not the master of WP. Having an encyclopedia that is censored and that doesn't treat subjects like pornography would be a very big mistake. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 22:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

BTW some of those pictures that shock you have already been asked for deletion and they've been kept. For instance see Commons:Deletion requests/Inappropriate cartoons or Commons:Deletion requests/Image:BabyKillerZiombies.gif. Reading those DR may make you understand that you're on the wrong way! --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 22:47, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh and BTW stop removing other categories when you add your cat. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 22:53, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Over-categorization

Hi R-41, you keep adding Category:War criminals to Image:Evstafiev-Radovan Karadzic 3MAR94.jpg, but Category:Radovan Karadžić is already in the category Category:War criminals, that's over-categorization (see the picture on the right). I removed the category. This is besides the fact that he isnt convicted (yet) and shouldnt be placed in that category at all. Multichill (talk) 07:31, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sources for Blank World Map 1939

Could you point me to some sources for Image:BlankMap-World_1939.png? Do you have this map in SVG or a similar format so I can see it in more detail? I'm trying to make a similar map using a Mercator projection. Emok (talk) 21:24, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Major image loss: Image Flag of Germany 1933.svg

Hello,

A mistake from developer Tim Starling resulted in the accidental deletion of 496 full-resolution images, which means that the original version is gone, but not the thumb version. A list of the affected images at Wikimedia Commons was made by PatrícaR and can be found here. As one of your images was found on the list, I'm asking you if you could re-upload the image Flag of Germany 1933.svg from your hard disk, with the comment Restoring image, see [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2008-September/004148.html].

Kind regards,
Kameraad Pjotr 15:48, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image Tagging Image:AHWiensf.jpg

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[edit] Royal flag of Italy

Hi R-41. About the Royal flag of Italy there is no need to change it. About the Image:Flag_of_Prime_Minister_of_Italy_(1927-1943).svg, you can do all the modifications you think is necessary, but I've other sources that illustrate the flag as I've done Image:Flag of Mussolini.svg like «Raccolta delle bandiere e delle insegne nazionali» (collection of national flags and insigna), Ministero della Marina (Ministry of the Navy) or «Almanacco navale 1943» of the Royal Navy of Italy. --F l a n k e r (talk) 09:11, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Another good work, keep it up! I've added the Minister's Flag and the Subsecretary's Flag, you can find them here: Category:Military symbols of Italian fascism. Bye, F l a n k e r (talk) 10:33, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi R-41. There are about sixty millions of version of the flag's crown you can see it there: http://www.marina.difesa.it/storia/musei/musei002.asp (the flags are used for official naval and war use -there are also republican flags-, tell me if you find two same crown!). So there is not a "correct" version or a "more used" version. We, in it.wiki, like this version of the flag. If you want upload another version you can do it with another file name. --F l a n k e r (talk) 10:25, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't know wich kind of document it is, I just find it times ago. But I have many photos of official cerimonies that represents the crown in so many different ways. There is not an offical crown design. I like your flag, upload it with another name, if someone wants to use it, he can do. This image is used in many articles, it is unfair unilaterally modify it. --F l a n k e r (talk) 15:49, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Flags of Fascist Italy

Congratulations for adding these High-Quality-flags to Wikimedia Commons. By the way, could you tell me, what kind of "head" looks out from the "fascist bundle" on the right side of it ? Image:Flag of Prime Minister of Italy (1927-1943).svg. Is it a lions head or what? If I look at the picture in FLAGGENBUCH, 1939, it seems to be something like a cat. (I am missing the ear in your picture). Greetings,--Fornax (talk) 13:17, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanation.--Fornax (talk) 06:26, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image talk:Flag of Italian Fascism.svg

plz see my comment --Oren neu dag (talk) 03:05, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] COA Spain

Please, do not change colors at your will. We use the ones agreed already at spanish wikiproject. Thank you, --SanchoPanzaXXI (talk) 16:09, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

you talk about flags...why to touch COA also? ok for flags but no for Coa as those are base on consensus, quite difficult to reach as you know.--SanchoPanzaXXI (talk) 16:36, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok, that's acceptable now. Thank you and good luck, --SanchoPanzaXXI (talk) 16:46, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Creating categories

When you create a new category, please place it in one or more suitable broader existing categories, so that it becomes part of the overall category "tree". AnonMoos (talk) 09:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] File:Mussd.jpg

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[edit] File:Fascist Headquarters - 1934.jpg

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--User:G.dallorto (talk) 05:05, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] File:Flag of Croatia 2 by 3 No COA.svg

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[edit] Can you make a sVG ...

... of File:SR Croatia coa.png like you made File:Coat of Arms of SFR Yugoslavia.svg? -- Bugoslav (talk) 20:27, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Darkening blue on the 1861-1946 flag and the Regia Marina flags

No, please, do not change everything any time you find a photo of the flag... the old flags do not have a standard color, any flag got his own one. We choose the blu Savoy to be the more correct for logical reason. --F l a n k e r (talk) 10:08, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I've made a quick check over Google, and here there are some photos: [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] ... you can see that every flag use his own shape and colours. --F l a n k e r (talk) 10:18, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, I've posted the queston to the it.wiki bar. --F l a n k e r (talk) 12:06, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

From the discussion that I've started is general opinion to use the Savoy blue (it is also the national colour of Italy). The only aspect to clear is which one to use. Do you have some source to find the best rapresentation of this colour? F l a n k e r (talk) 22:55, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Got it! In all the laws and decrees of the Kingdom the colour around the coat of arms of the flag is described as azure (light blue): Royal Decree of the 25 march 1860, Royal Decree no. 2072 of the 24 september 1923 and many others.

You've find azure-blue, that is an intermediate colour, not azure. Anyhow, in Italian azzurro indicates always a light blue (otherwise it is said blu, that is darken, or celeste that is more lighten [19]). --F l a n k e r (talk) 10:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

If you search enough you can find also a green shade :D. But at Italian Wiki we have discussed to use this shade of blue that is the most likely blue Savoy. --F l a n k e r (talk) 18:46, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Please link images

BotMultichillT 23:42, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

• Image:State Flag of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia.svg was uncategorized on 6 September 2009.
• Image:Banner of Germany 1933.svg was uncategorized on 6 September 2009.
• Image:Standard of a Member of the Presidency of SFR Yugoslavia.svg was uncategorized on 6 September 2009.

[edit] World Map

Hi R-41

Please would you send me a copy of your grey world map in high resolution if you have it?

I'd like to zoom in and crop on the Europe part for a presentation I'm making.

Thanks

ben