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Spelling coat of arms abbreviation[edit]

As we can see there is an huge inequality of the spelling Coa, COA or CoA (or coa). This is an big vexation in naming templates, files, anything. As pronounced here on Commons seems "Coat of Arms". Any explanation/recommendation or consensus here⁇ Greeting User: Perhelion (Commons: = crap?)  15:39, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

  • To my mind CoA = College of Arms. I see no reason why a coat of arms should be capitalised, it is neither a proper noun, nor the title of an institution. I think therefore it should be abbreviated as coa. --Kiltpin (talk) 20:21, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for comment. I would like to see more comments. The most people on the English Project seems to use "CoA".
I prefer "COA" for categories / files / templates, as meaningful abbreviations are on EnWP/Commons always capitalized. User: Perhelion (Commons: = crap?)  10:01, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
  • I agree with Kiltpin. I think coa is the most proper abbreviation linguistically. Snowsuit Wearer (talk) 22:08, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
  • But I see now in many old and new English heraldic books, the naming is “Coat of Arms”!?![1][2][3][4] User: Perhelion (Commons: = crap?)  10:44, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Requirement: Creating a new category (recommendation)[edit]

Cross talk link → Commons:Village pump #Requirement: Creating a new category (recommendation) User: Perhelion (Commons: = crap?)  10:52, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Scottish arms[edit]

I notice in Coats of arms of families of Scotland the included cats are almost all named {Surname) arms rather than Coat(s) of arms of (Surname). Several cats in the latter form exist, but they’re subcats of the former (some of them empty), and it’s quite unclear to me on what criteria arms should be placed in one kind or the other. At first I thought the CoA of … cats might be for the undifferenced or ancestral arms and the parents for their derivatives, but if that was the intention it doesn’t appear to have been followed through with any consistency. I’d like to clear this up, but I’d appreciate some guidance before I make the mess worse.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 18:53, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

P.S. Contrary to the above, I notice Stuart arms is a subcat of Coats of arms of the House of Stuart. (And the latter insists on sorting in the families cat under C, despite having “Stuart” for a key. I tried retyping it with HotCat, in case there was an invisible character, but it made no difference.)—Odysseus1479 (talk) 19:48, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Shade of "Azure"[edit]

By chance, I came across the uploads of FCKGW-RHQQ2-YXRKT-8TG6W-2B7Q8 (talk · contribs). Their major contributions seem to be in two areas: removing the genitalia from beasts (all reverted), but also changing the shade of Azure to a much lighter blue. I reverted File:Magdalene_college_shield.svg, but since this isn't my area of expertise, I thought I'd bring the matter here instead of reverting more myself. Storkk (talk) 09:30, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

His lighter shade of blue is, imho, dangerously close to en:bleu celeste, and is thus rather misleading. Tom-L (talk) 09:43, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
I also reverted a few castrations you missed. Tom-L (talk) 09:53, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
The user also changed shades of Vert, e.g. File:St_Chad's_college,_Durham.svg. It all seems misleading or incorrect to me, but I was hoping for some consensus (or someone more knowledgeable to take initiative). Cheers, Storkk (talk) 16:38, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
I propose the revert all changes and warn the user on his talk page do not mass edit with very disputed content (it is not vandalism because it seems good faith). User: Perhelion (Commons: = crap?)  21:25, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
I agree, they should all be reverted. His reds as well look too pink. The beauty of heraldry is that the colours should be vibrant not washed out and pastel. Kiltpin (talk) 09:26, 18 July 2015 (UTC)