File:Theoretical arms of O'Brien Earl of Thomond with arms of Guy de Bryan, 1st Baron Bryan (d.1390) in 2nd Quarter.svg
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[edit]DescriptionTheoretical arms of O'Brien Earl of Thomond with arms of Guy de Bryan, 1st Baron Bryan (d.1390) in 2nd Quarter.svg |
Theoretical arms of O'Brien Earl of Thomond with arms of Guy de Bryan, 1st Baron Bryan (d.1390) in 2nd Quarter Quartered arms of w:Murrough O'Brien, 1st Earl of Thomond, 1st Baron Inchiquin. Quarterly of 4:
Vexed question of the pheon / "crux" in the coat of O'Brien"The vexed question of the pheon" in the O'Brien arms (per Cokayne, G. E. & Geoffrey H. White, eds. (1953). The Complete Peerage, or a history of the House of Lords and all its members from the earliest times, volume XII part 1: Skelmersdale to Towton. Vol. 12.1 (2nd ed.). London: The St. Catherine Press, Thomond, p.716, note (e)) was discussed by G.E.Cockayne (1896) (Joseph Jackson Howard (Ed.), Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica, Vol.I, 3rd Series, London, 1896, pp.49-50, G.E.Cockayne, Bookplate of Charles O'Brien[1]). Cockayne suggested that the 2nd and 3rd quarters were originally intended to be the same arms, but due to artistic errors had become two separate coats. The actual undifferenced arms of the Anglo-Norman de Bryan family (Or, three piles in point issuing from the chief azure) are the same tinctures and general shape as the "Sidney pheon" of the 3rd quarter - namely an arrow-head shape azure, point down, on a field or, as reconstructed in this theoretical image. Text per Cockayne, Bookplate of Charles O'Brien:
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Author | Lobsterthermidor (talk) 15:06, 6 August 2023 (UTC) |
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