File talk:Flood Basalt Map.jpg

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Inaccurate, non-scientific information in map

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This map (posted in august of 2011) is taken from an original USGS map and modified. Many of the modifications appear spurious and all are unsourced. All the dark blue Large Igneous Provinces, or "LIPs", drawn in are made by hand by the user with the handle "Williamsborg". That is clear in several ways - they don't appear on the original legend, they are obviously drawn using a simple coloring tool and are either elongated ovals or series of circles - they don't follow any geologic boundaries. Second problem is, most of those are not recognized by any geologic authority, as far as I can tell. And some seem to be complete misunderstandings. Take what is labeled as "North Atlantic LIP" on *this* map. There is a recognized NALIP - and it is already drawn in! It is Iceland and the corresponding purple "spot" in southeast Greenland. User Williamsborg have added superfluous blue ovals partly covering the real NALIP - and adding one part in the middle of the Norwegian coast where there is none! (That part of Norway is not the "Western Norway", or Vestlandet, that is referenced to have residual traces of NALIP in the wikipedia entry for the same. Norwegian geologist don't seem to recognize any instances of basalts in that part of the country, as far as I can tell.) That in itself is clearly vandalism - it distorts the extent of the NALIP and fly in the face of established geology. This map is highly inaccurate, contains invented and unrecognized information contradicting reputed sources.

I nominated the file for deletion, but was told to start a discussion about the file instead.

Could not the map be reverted to the original state before all the inaccurate information (inaccurate labels, blue markings and arrows) got added? 83.250.196.20 07:49, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The reason you got told to start this discussion instead of trying to get the file deleted, is because it is used by Wikipedia pages. We don't simply "yank the rug" from under existing pages where various editors suddenly find their image gone, replaced by a red link.
Now, it is likely nobody will engage on this Commons File talk page. (Note: the creator, Williamborg, might or might not watch this page!) If there is still little discussion here in a week or two, I suggest you try English Wikipedia's Basalt page, the only place on English Wikipedia that uses the file. You could try getting someone to update the graphics, you could update and source the graphics yourself, or you could try achieving consensus for not using this image at that page.
Remember, even if you manage to get English Wikipedia to not use this page, it remains in use by a dozen other Wikipedias, so it remains inappropriate to try to get it deleted, unless you first somehow achieve consensus to stop using it at all those places too. (In that case, I personally believe your energies are better steered towards creating and uploading a new version yourself, since this would automatically update everywhere)
Good luck, CapnZapp (talk) 11:16, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]