File talk:Forms of government.svg

Kyrgyzistan

Just so you know, folloing the [1], it is very likely that Kyrgyzistan will switch from parliamentary to Presidential this year. --Aréat (留言) 20:40, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Somaliland

Hi this map used to always include Somaliland which has a presidential system. Its was first incorrectly change in the map to a parliamentary system and has now been removed. Could somebody add it back? I would if I could. Thank you Subayerboombastic (留言) 13:38, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Russia

Also Russia has now a presidential system. TheGlobetrotter (留言)

• De facto Russia is superpresidential system, but this map depicts de jure situation. De jure Russia is still president-parliamentary (semi-presidential) republic. Firstly, the president in Russia de jure isn’t a head of executive branch of power, but the prime minister is. Secondly, president’s choice of prime minister must be approved by the parliament, so it makes the government responsible both to the president and the parliament. Thirdly, and this is the most important, the Russian parliament has a right of vote of no confidence to the government. Thus, this all makes Russia de jure semi-presidential republic. — Nikita Stroilov (留言)

Belarus, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan de jure are not fully presidential republics

They are de jure semi-presidential systems. Both Belarus and Kazakhstan have presidents, which are NOT listed in their constitutions as heads of the executive branch of power. In fact, belarussian and kazakh heads of government, styled as prime ministers, are listed as heads of the executive branch. I suppose that Belarus and Kazakhstan are de jure president-parliamentary systems, like Russia and Azerbaijan, because the president both in Belarus (article 84.6 of the constitution) and Kazakhstan (article 44.3 of the constitution) chooses the prime minister and the cabinet without the confidence vote from the parliament, but must have the support of the parliament majority for their choice. In order to remove a prime minister or the whole cabinet from power, the president can dismiss them or the assembly can remove them by a vote of no confidence. And de jure existing parliamentary vote of no confidence to the government is very important to identify Belarus and Kazakhstan as president-parliamentary systems (semi-presidential systems). This vote of no confidence does exist in Belarus (article 97.7 of the constitution) and Kazakhstan (article 56.2 of the constitution), even if only de jure.

The President of Uzbekistan in its constitution does NOT figure as a head of government and executive branch (article 89 of the constitution). Executive power in Uzbekistan is exercised by the Cabinet of Ministers, which is headed by Prime Minister (article 98), which makes only him de jure the head of executive branch. Moreover, the president in Uzbekistan chooses the prime minister and the cabinet without the confidence vote from the parliament, but must have the support of the parliament majority for their choice (article 93.10 of the constitution). In order to remove a prime minister or the whole cabinet from power, the president can dismiss them or the assembly can remove them by a vote of no confidence. And the parliament’s right of vote of no confidence to the government DOES EXIST in Uzbekistan’s constitution (article 98). Thus, it all makes Uzbekistan de jure president-parliamentary system (semi-presidential republic), not fully presidential. — Nikita Stroilov (留言)

Guiana

Hello! Guiana in South America is wrong color on the map. It’s not a directly elected Presidential Republic. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 5.55.181.16 (talk) 17:32, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Poland

Good afternoon.

I was wondering whether a user can shade Poland to orange; per (Poland 1997 (rev. 2009) - https://www.constituteproject.org/constitution/Poland_2009?lang=en at www.constituteproject.org and The World Factbook at https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/poland/#government), the country's government system is a parliamentary with a directly elected president by a majority. According to the Constitution, Poland is a de jure parliamentary republic. As outlined by the legend, this chart aims to represent de jure form of government, not de facto. I don't know how this mistake has been cultivated for so long. Warmest regards. Merangs (留言) 05:56, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Is this superseded or not?

Chubit or anyone. There is a note that this is superceded but it has been modified more recently than the other map. So which should we use? Chidgk1 (留言) 09:07, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

I think File:Forms_of_government_2019.svg and File:Forms_of_government_2021.svg history should be merged under old name File:Forms_of_government.svg and 2019 talk probably properly archived.

File:Forms_of_government_map.svg should not be used in my opinion for the reasons you have mentioned. -- Svito3 (留言) 11:30, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

"Forms of government map" has the Falklands on correctly as part of the British monarchy (not that I'm a fan of them, but it would be accurate), while this one does not. GreenReaper (留言) 16:30, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Correct Austria/ Corriger l'Autriche/ Österreich korrigieren

EN: Austria should be corrected on the map, since it is de jure a semi-presidential democracy (= a parliamentary democracy with a presidential touch). The legal position of the president is de jure comparable to the French president (and by no means comparable to the german president). De facto, these rights are not exercised, so that many people are not aware of this fact. Legally, Austria is nevertheless clearly a semi-presidential democracy! (Based on the 1929 amendment to the Constitution)

FR: L'Autriche devrait être corrigée sur la carte, car elle est de jure une démocratie semi-présidentielle. Le statut juridique du président est de jure comparable à celui du président français (et en aucun cas comparable à celui du président allemand). En realité, ces droits ne sont toutefois pas exercés, c'est la raison pour laquelle beaucoup ne sont pas conscients de cette réalité. Mais juridiquement, l'Autriche est clairement une démocratie semi-présidentielle! (Suite à l'amendement constitutionnel de 1929)

DE: Österreich müsste auf der Karte korrigiert werden, da es de jure eine semipräsidentielle Demokratie ist (= eine parlamentarische Demokratie mit präsidialem Einschlag) Die rechtliche Stellung des Präsidenten ist de jure mit dem Französischen Präsidenten vergleichbar (und keineswegs vergleich etwa mit dem deutschen Präsidenten) De facto werden diese Rechte zwar nicht wahrgenommen, wodurch diese Tatsäche vielen nicht bewusst ist. Rechtlich ist Österreich aber dennoch eindeutig eine semipräsidentielle Demokratie! (Seit der Verfassungsänderung von 1929) Bidart34 (留言) 12:53, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Thera are no DPR and LPR

DPR and LPR are only recognized by Russia. Please undo changes. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 178.6.56.26 (talk) 23:25, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

I suggest removing Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Nagorno-Karabakh, and Transnistria as well. — 185.115.7.51 00:15, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Mistakes on the politucal map of Ukraine

There are shown territories, which temporarily occupied by the Russian Federation (e.g. part of Donbas and Luhansk regions) as presidential state, which is a nonsense. Barda77 (留言) 17:18, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Suriname and South Africa are not semi-presidential

The definition of semi-presidential republics requires that they have a prime minister and a president. South Africa and Suriname both have presidents, but no prime ministers. Their presidents are not popularly elected either, unlike in a presidential system, rather their presidents are elected by the legislature, so they should be coloured the lighter green colour (same as Botswana). Fuse809 (talk) 08:49, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

A locator color circle for Transnistria

Due to its shape, Transnistria is not really visible on the map, thus it would seem clearer to have it represented by the locator circle, just like the other microstates. BasicWriting (留言) 21:50, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

De-facto regimes with limited recognition

Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Nagorno-Karabakh, Transnistria, etc aren't de-jure states according to UN. Should the map include them? If the map is about de-facto (as opposed to de-jure), then lots of countries fall under different categories (e.g., Russia is a single-party state, not semi-presidential). — 185.115.7.51 00:11, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Crimea

Crimea's de-jure status is that it's part Ukraine, yet if you hover on it, is says "Russia". Should this be corrected as well? — 185.115.7.51 00:22, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

I think the correct color for Crimea as and occupied territory would be to color for "Countries in which constitutional provisions for government have been suspended". --GPSLeo (留言) 06:10, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Peru

Peru's color is wrong. 177.76.22.139 16:44, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

The country is a presidential republic with a prime minster, not a semipresidential one, since the prime minster isn’t responsibile to the legislature, just like in South Korea or Senegal. 5.95.1.151 13:33, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

San Marino

San Marino is a ceremoniel republic, where the Captain Regents (the precidency) have ceremonial roles as heads of state; not head of government. The executive power exercices of the Congress of state (the government), that is answerable to the Great and General Council (the parliament). Can anybody correct the colour to orange? San Marino: Constitution - 1974 (rightofassembly.info) Karriuss (留言) 11:47, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

As this map reflects en:List of countries by system of government, any changes should first be made there. The page currently lists San Marino as a directorial republic rather than a parliamentary republic. Clyde H. Mapping (留言) 22:08, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

I have tried to change the list, but User:ICommandeth - Wikipedia always revert it, because it is not changed here. The San Marino's constitution shuld be the right thing to make both lists and maps after. Karriuss (留言) 11:34, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

From what I can gather at en:Talk:List of countries by system of government, your change is not being reverted because it would create a conflict between the article and map (something that would be fixed easily), but more importantly because it would conflict with what is detailed at en:San Marino. On that page, San Marino is described as a de jure assembly-independent republic with executive head(s) of state, hence its coloring in green. Essentially, the country article, list on Wikipedia, and Commons map should all be in agreement, which is not yet the case. Consider bringing up the government type to en:Talk:San Marino and resolving it there before pursuing further dispute resolution should the change then not be accepted on en:List of countries by system of government. Clyde H. Mapping (留言) 23:54, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

He has never mentioned that page. Originally, both the San Marino article and the list was correct. So the list was wrongly edited, without any source, and the country article updated to the list. I have corrected the country article, after no answer on the talk page, and the list. No it's time to also update the map. Karriuss (留言) 11:18, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Iran

Iran isn’t a full presidential republic. 131.193.251.254 16:34, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Afghanistan

Afghanistan is a absolute monarchy under islamic emirate,change the cataloging 95.18.140.251 11:42, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Syria

Is there any consensus on the system Syria uses? The Wikipedia page itself lists it as a presidential republic, but it has been listed as a semi-presidential for years on this map. Also, there is present a Prime Minister in the country. For the moment, I have corrected the map to match the designation listed on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria, but if that is incorrect and it's a semi-presidential republic or indeed something else, I'd recommend correcting the page and perhaps reverting the map. GlowstoneUnknown (留言) 05:17, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Name of this file?

Should the name of this file be changed? the "2021" part of the filename is far from being accurate anymore, would it be beneficial (alongside possible) to rename the file to "Forms_Of_Government.svg"? GlowstoneUnknown (留言) 03:42, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Angola

{{edit request}} I was looking at Angola's page and realised it sounded to me much more like a republic with a legislature-nominated presidency instead of a full presidential republic. The page on the most recent general election and the page on the politics of the country seem to me much more similar to Guyana, South Africa, and Botswana than to the United States or Turkey. I would update the file, but it seems to be locked for whatever reason. GlowstoneUnknown (留言) 06:42, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

This type of request is better suited to Talk:List of countries by system of government since the article lists Angola as a presidential republic. Clyde H. Mapping (留言) 11:17, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

December 2023

@GlowstoneUnknown @Clyde H. Mapping @ICommandeth @Lukt64

• DNR, LNR and Crimea are all occupied by Russia Ukrainian territories. DNR and LNR since 20th of September 2022 don't exist even according to Russia, Russia annexed them, also it occupied and illegally annexed some part of Kherson and Zaporizhzhia oblasts, but they are fully Ukrainian in the map, so Donetsk, Luhansk oblasts and Crimea also should be.
• Greenland and Faroe Islands are parts of Denmark.
• Puerto Rico is part of the US.
• New Caledonia is part of France.
• Falkland Islands are part of the UK.

UA0Volodymyr (留言) 12:30, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

While I do not know how to edit the map's borders in text form, I would support updating Ukraine to reflect the de facto political situation; the Donbas breakaway republics were both depicted when they were recognized by Russia but prior to annexation. Granted, Russia's control of Kherson and Zaporizhzhia is largely unstable with some claimed pieces in Ukrainian control and subject to fighting, unlike that of Crimea which has been continuously occupied for several years, so I can also see why others might oppose this inclusion. Clyde H. Mapping (留言) 12:42, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

I disagree with you. That's all just russian military occupation and annexations are illegal and not de jure. All Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts and Crimea should be Ukrainian on this map as long they're Ukrainian de jure and internationally recognized so. UA0Volodymyr (留言) 12:49, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Crimea is marked as its own territory on the map anyways. The map includes partially recognized states like Somaliland which have no de jure basis. You can't represent states which exist solely in practice while also ignoring de facto annexations. Clyde H. Mapping (留言) 12:57, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Somaliland is self-proclaimed state, Crimea is occupied in the international military conflict in a result of military aggression of one country (Russia) against another one (Ukraine). UA0Volodymyr (留言) 13:05, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Afghanistan

Afghanistan's current goverment type is a Semi-absolute monarchy according to official name.--94.73.55.32 15:58, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Tunisia

@GlowstoneUnknown Tunisia has had a presidential system since 25 July 2022, Can you change it to blue? JUVENISTA (留言) 23:03, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Tunisia's page lists it as semi-presidential, why do you consider it Presidential? GlowstoneUnknown (留言) 10:33, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

The governance system on the page has been updated. You can update the image, thanks. JUVENISTA (留言) 18:31, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

I also notice that W:List of Countries by system of government lists Tunisia as semi-presidential, are you certain that it's fully presidential? GlowstoneUnknown (留言) 23:25, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Greenland

Shouldn't greenland be red? Other dependencies are not gray, and they do have their own parliament with a cerimonial regent.Carewolf (留言) 10:52, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Qatar

I checked with french and german articles on absolute and "semi-constitutional" monarchys as well as on the country itself : (except for the french one on Qatar who describes the regime without labeling (or explicite discussion about it)) they all reference Qatar as an absolute monarchy.

The entry here has been changed without specific description or explanation to constitutional by Fippe (in 2021-02-09T17:56) then to 'semi-constitutional by AKS471883 in 2021-09-07T13:38.

I noticed also two other maps : one coherent with the articles' descriptions (File:Government constitutional monarchy 2022.svg) and one (File:World Monarchies.svg), modified similarily to this one, with description, but without explanation, in 2021-12-13T04:32.

If I had understood how to change them back myself, I would have done it. So I(, sadly,) can only bring it up in the discussion (which I was, otherwise, going to do in addition). 2A01:E0A:AE4:41D0:3B72:92C3:F8F4:5B95 12:48, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

This is best brought to the attention of en:Talk:Qatar. On English Wikipedia, Qatar's form of government is given as a "unitary authoritarian parliamentary semi-constitutional monarchy." Clyde H. Mapping (留言) 02:52, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Venezuela ("Antifascist law")

A few days ago, the government of Venezuela approved a law which states in summary that for a political party to exist or be formed, it must have prior permission from the government. Banning in this way and now completely legal any party or organization opposed to the PSUV regime and therefore, being a one-party state de jure:

-https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-02/-anti-fascism-law-to-tighten-crackdown-on-venezuelan-opposition

-https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article287431415.html

The definition of a single-party system is one that has, by constitution or law, a party that is the regent of said state, even if there are other legal parties (as in China or Eritrea). In the case of Venezuela, they have been prohibiting the participation of politicians and opposition parties until finally with this law they can prohibit any party with only the request of the government (PSUV). Therefore, I would like the color to be changed from blue to brown in the case of Venezuela to reflect the situation, perhaps with a small explanation in the description of the update. ComradeHektor (留言) 22:49, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Additionally, a "Committee Against Fascism" will be formed separately from the National Assembly to review each case. In effect, this is a state ideology. ComradeHektor (留言) 23:40, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Unlike China, Venezuela's constitution makes no mention of one political party's supremacy. Controlled parliamentary opposition parties are not unique to one party states (see, for instance, Russia, which is de jure a multi-party republic). At most, editors at the Venezuela article settled on the addendum "...under a centralized authoritarian state" to reflect the de facto situation (en:Talk:Venezuela#NPOV: Is Venezuela actually functioning as a republic?). Clyde H. Mapping (留言) 06:58, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Nazi Germany was not one by constitution either (the constitution at that time was that of the Weimar Republic) but was de facto as a consequence of the Enabling Act. I know this may not be the best place to discuss it but I wanted to make this clear. ComradeHektor (留言) 07:18, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Reliable scholarship and news media describes Nazi Germany as a one party state while Venezuela hasn't been labeled as such. Clyde H. Mapping (留言) 11:45, 1 May 2024 (UTC)