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File tagging File:Fentanyl3Dan.gif[edit]

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3d animations[edit]

After some verifications, it seems you really created those files. Could you just add the software name (I think it's QuteMol, so it's open source, but they stil ldeserve a little credit).

If you could just add that, I think we can simply remove the authorization request template.

Thank you! --SamuelFreli (talk) 14:16, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Tip: Categorizing images[edit]

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Cocaine Picture[edit]

Where is the Nitrogen molecule in your cocaine picture? I don't see it there normally it is colored blue. 50.80.153.173 23:02, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Nitrogen geometry in File:Metazimole3Dan.gif[edit]

You have the nitrogen that is attached to (not part of) the ring as trigonal–planar with a plane rotated 90° from the plane of the ring. At least one of those two details is likely not correct. The only common reason an en:amine tends to be planar rather than tetrahedral is if it is conjugated to an adjacent part of the structure, but a en:conjugated system nearly always requires co-planarity of all its parts. DMacks (talk) 17:29, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Unrelatedly, on the image-description page, you wrote that it is "Structure of" (didn't fill in the blank on some template/standard form?). I spot-checked a few other recent uploads of yours, and they all have the same situation. DMacks (talk) 17:31, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

I was referred to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Upload/Chemistry as the upload form by en:User:Leyo as he had complained about me uploading my files to the en Wiki as they were transferred here. I only filled in the empty fields at the upload link I just shared. As for metamizole; does this image satisfy these constraints?

Metamizole3DanJ.gif

Fuse809 (talk) 00:17, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Frame #4 in that is an excellent example of the wrong geometry of the non-ring nitrogen. DMacks (talk) 03:01, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

I must have horrible vision because I see 120° angles, not 90°. Fuse809 (talk) 04:24, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Look!

MetamizoleTrig.jpg

It's trigonal planar i.e. 120°! Fuse809 (talk) 04:38, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

It's trigonal–planar in your image, I agree. That's exactly what I said was (one of possibly two) mistakes. Again, amines are tetrahedral--that's a pretty basic concept from intro chemistry courses. DMacks (talk) 14:21, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
Or alternatively, the planar N needs to be 0° (coplanar) with the ring itself (not twisted at all (for example, in the X-ray of the en:Ampyrone parent structure according to doi:10.3390/molecules18010877). DMacks (talk) 16:50, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

I've performed structure optimisation with Avogadro and got this PDB; show me what's wrong in it as I've done repeated optimisations with en:Avogadro and en:Jmol and I can't achieve tetrahedral geometry. Fuse809 (talk) 02:13, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

The reason is that the lone pair has formed a pi bond with the 5-member ring (i.e. it's become conjugated). Fuse809 (talk) 05:11, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Your PDB has the N lone-pair oriented not in a direction that can conjugate to the ring. That was the other option for the mistake I originally mentioned. Again, if the N is planar, that plane must align with the plane of the ring, not be twisted, in order to conjugate (the methyl and the C of the CH2 going to the sulfonic acid must be in the same plane as the ring, not one on each face). Simple geometric optimization is sensitive to starting point, which is why "our minimizations" need to be sanity-checked from other sources. It's easy to get benzene rings interlinked, etc. It's too easy to overstate one's confidence in how something is by making it a high quality image--don't want to mis-lead our readers that there is any actual verifiable basis for this 3D geometry. By moving atoms from the minimized PDB to make it tetrahedral, I could get it to remain that way in minimization. I can converge on 4 different geometries ("which face of the ring has the methyl vs the methanesulfonic acid" and to a lesser extent "lone-pair pointed towards carbonyl vs methyl" on the ring). Without published source, I can't accept any of them as the "right one", especially regarding the ring-faces. Presumably one of them is most important for binding; presumably one of them is most common in solution or crystal. And I can also converge on two different planar forms, thanks to conjugation, depending which group on the N goes which way (again, I'd want a ref to choose between them, let alone between planar and tetrahedral). DMacks (talk) 04:24, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Would you care to provide me with a PDB file that does work for you? Fuse809 (talk) 04:50, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Would en:PubChem's SDF file satisfy your requirements for something published? Fuse809 (talk) 06:48, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Here's a published journal article with its structure (doi:10.1107/S0567740879004271. Based on this geometry, the following coordinates should be valid
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BVP86/cc-PVDZ scf done: -1369.314862
 C     0.634952    10.049072     4.900129
 C    -0.038364     9.052812     5.625610
 C    -0.843603     9.404086     6.721280
 C    -0.967888    10.746974     7.078721
 C    -0.317360    11.745954     6.347432
 C     0.482122    11.389915     5.258069
 N     0.088512     7.682548     5.283073
 N     0.524862     7.332867     3.979484
 C     1.016111     6.033439     4.052906
 C     1.037214     5.613638     5.356904
 C     0.456058     6.652593     6.201473
 C    -0.418749     7.686282     2.908454
 C     1.415171     5.281438     2.830834
 N     1.587824     4.410206     5.852441
 C     0.695266     3.536091     6.539780
 S     0.466632     1.963130     5.547604
 O     1.708338     1.174668     5.559744
 O     0.313685     6.699922     7.422867
 C     2.964673     4.465074     6.365693
 O    -0.210611     2.273661     4.290449
 O    -0.634313     1.159020     6.505778
 H    -0.141454     0.406631     6.889481
 H    -1.345054     8.622837     7.287776
 H    -1.589369    11.013825     7.934553
 H    -0.429995    12.793897     6.626878
 H     1.005549    12.158525     4.687515
 H     1.289838     9.765864     4.076298
 H    -1.364716     7.127508     2.998793
 H     0.053315     7.462436     1.945681
 H    -0.625790     8.761093     2.953974
 H     0.547989     5.057675     2.191339
 H     2.145811     5.841566     2.228931
 H     1.854760     4.324136     3.132627
 H    -0.315695     3.946934     6.648080
 H     1.067111     3.196537     7.517244
 H     3.601787     4.973633     5.631670
 H     3.344097     3.442734     6.490780
 H     3.030898     5.004553     7.327684
Do you accept this geometry, DMacks? Brenton (talk|email) (I automatically watch all pages I edit) 08:23, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
Published crystal structures are a good source. The fact that it contradicts many of the geometric assumptions you had previously made (vs agreeing with some of my comments) is a good indication that you should re-examine other diagrams you have made and (at least!) cite them as such. That way readers can know they are not specifically based on reliable sources. DMacks (talk) 15:23, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
I would agree with you but it takes forever for one to find crystal structures, in my experience. Why this crystal structure required me to ask other more experienced chemists to find it, why you didn't even find it and you're the chemist out of us two. I am merely a pharm student. Hence I favour using PubChem and ChemSpider's structures. Despite this I am glad you brought this up, as I am 1/4 Jew so I understand the danger of blind conformity, so thank you. Brenton (talk) 23:09, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

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JuTa 07:05, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Incorrect structure, recommend pulling from Wikipedia[edit]

Go to the Tetracycline article, [1], and see the image that is now presented there. Your representation of tetracycline, File:Tetracycline2DCSD.svg, which was replaced, is non-standard (not the way any knowledgeable organic chemist would depict it). It is simply incorrect and unacceptable as an image at WP. In particular, its presentation of a dashed line projecting from a planar olefin, depiction of the stereochemistry at the ring junctions, omission of hydrogens at chiral centers, presentation of dashed bonds within rings, etc., are non-standard. The image in place now is correct, and standard (though in a different pose). I would strongly recommend you remove File:Tetracycline2DCSD.svg from Wikimedia Commons and in the places it is in use (or replace it with one that you create, that looks like the one that is currently in the article). This presentation, however sourced, is not how it is correctly done. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 17:49, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't notice this. Thank you for your feedback. So I have taken ChemSpider's mol file and used that to fix this problem. I will fix accordingly, although I can't remove the file as I'm not an administrator. So I will re-upload at here. But, I suggest for your future reference that instead of editing the description page with your input you edit the talk page instead as that's what it's there for. Plus you can add this to the description page:
{{Disputed chem}}
in order to prevent people from using it. Consequently I will move your comments to the talk page and flag it for deletion. Brenton (talk|email) (I automatically watch all pages I edit) 01:09, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
ps. if you want to link to the English Wikipedia you just need to type en:pagename in double square brackets ([[]]). e.g. tetracycline would be: tetracycline. Brenton (talk|email) (I automatically watch all pages I edit) 01:20, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for response, and for technical advice on Wikipedia formats/tools. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 00:58, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

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In re: non-attributed, computationally ill-defined 3D images, spinning or otherwise[edit]

Please see discussion at the Wikiproject:Pharmacology, [2], for reasons and supporting opinions about this misuse of chemical information. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 00:55, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

I don't know why you are directing me there as in case you didn't read the messages that came before you I had already commented on Mad's comments. Brenton (talk) 01:08, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

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The factual accuracy of the chemical structure File:Maitansine2DCSD.svg is disputed[edit]

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Rifampicin3Dan.gif[edit]

Dear Fuse809, how do you create gif images of molecular structures like you have for Rifampicin3Dan.gif? I find them really useful. Thanks, Originalwana (talk) 13:56, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Rifampicin3Dan.gif
This one was created using QuteMol. All ya have to do is get an acceptable PDB or SDF file (I think for this one I would have used PubChem's 3D SDF file) and load it in QuteMol. I haven't used QuteMol in a while though, so I can't remember much specifics. Brenton (talk) 13:59, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
ThanksOriginalwana (talk) 10:36, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

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I like the 3D diagrams for small molecules, but your choice of lighting or perspective makes some 3D details hard to see. Maybe using a lighter gray (and generally desaturating the colors?) for carbon, or somehow else making it more visually "spherical" (rather than flat black circle) would help. For example, compare File:Tiletamine-ball-and-stick-model.png to File:Tiletamine-3d-sticks.png. DMacks (talk) 15:43, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

I don't get what the problem is but to placate you I've uploaded two revisions with lighter carbon colours. I can see the 3D geometry fine. I've tried to do everything to placate you (like using Avogadro to optimized the geometry using crystal structures where possible) and others on Commons with my latest uploads but still there's a problem. But I suppose I should be happy for the opportunity to improve my work. Brenton (talk) 16:16, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

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