File talk:Frontiers of Flight Museum December 2015 098 (Bücker Bü 133 Jungmeister replica).jpg

Wrong Airplane or Photo

So sorry. This Airplane cannot be a Bücker Jungmeister, as that plane had a Radial engine (mainly)

Citation: ... only two Bü 133Bs, with 160 hp (119 kW) version of that same Hirth HM506 inline-6 engine, were built. The main production type was the 160 hp (119 kW) Siemens-Bramo Sh 14A radial powered Bü 133C https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bücker_Bü_133

Both Engines won't fit under this wide cowling.

As the cowling shows the contour for a 4cyl opposed cylinder engine (mybe Lycoming), this should be a Pitts Spezial S-1 Aerobatic plane, I presume. Compare with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitts_Special

2003:EF:4BF4:7600:219:DBFF:FE87:10B5 12:42, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Hmmm, it was identified as a Jungmeister at the museum. While the engine is clearly different from those used in most Jungmeisters, look at the shape of the wings, the wing struts, and the shape of the fuselage; in all of these ways it looks just like other Jungmeisters (see this photo), and it looks quite different from a Pitts Special, like this one, also on display at the same museum. I'm guessing that this Jungmeister may have been modified with a different engine after it was built. Still, based on the shape and lines of this aircraft other than around the engine, I do think that it is in fact a Jungmeister. Michael Barera (talk) 13:55, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Sorry again, seems that I was wrong. The shoe over the main landing wheel has an inscript that tells "Bücker Jungmeister". And the tail fin has an inscription, too, that says "Ken Larson, Dallas, Texas". Search engine found some "Kenneth Larson", who passed away in 2008 (RIP), who was active as aerobatic pilot.

(http://obits.dallasnews.com/obituaries/dallasmorningnews/obituary.aspx?n=kenneth-larson&pid=119770273)

Seems that this was Kenneth Larson's plane, and maybe, he exchanged a defective (worn out) engine with a Lycoming 4cyl., and thus had to add another cowling to that casco, too. In this case, one could tell this a Ex-Bücker 133C, modified by Ken Larson. Would you agree?

Sincerely

2003:EF:4BF4:7600:219:DBFF:FE87:10B5 02:41, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the chat, and for the information! I should have thought to check the museum's website right away, as they have a page about this aircraft. It turns out it was a replica built by Ken Larson, and it indeed has a non-original Lycoming engine: "After completing its initial flight,  Mr. Larson replaced the original 160 hp radial engine with a 260 hp Lycoming IO-540." I'll update the image description right away...please let me know if this is satisfactory to you. Thanks again! Michael Barera (talk) 23:54, 13 September 2018 (UTC)