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HMS Malelina[edit]
See discussion for a lithograph of HMS Malelina, in 1834[edit]
- Refer: conversation en: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships#HMS Malelina. Truncated here for brevity and clarity:
See en:Wikiipedia:HMS Britannia (1820), the headline image by John H. Wilson (1774-1855)" includes a mystery ship. The Commons description is "HMS Britannia and HMS Malelina Entering Milos Harbour, 2nd January 1834". It's currently on sale and the dealer gives a description of "HMS Britannia and HMS Malelina Entering Milos Harbour, 2nd January 1834 at 9.30am".
- Maybe the 74-gun third rate HMS Malabar (1818)
- Correspondence in the Times in December 1933 indicates that the Malabar and Britannia were in the mediterranean at the same time. "The English have in the Mediterranean three-deckers, the Britannia, with Admiral Malcolm's flag, the Saint Vincent, and Caledonia, two seventy-fours, the Talavara and Malabar, the two cut down ships the Barham and Alfred, the Madagacar frigate, and several sloops and brigs."
- Both vessels appear to be merchantmen as they are flying the red ensign. Could they be East Indiamen?
- Until 1864 the "Red Ensign" was one of the RN's three ensigns, and it was only in that year that it was re-allocated to merchant shipping.
- I suspect it was Malabar - she seems to have travelled with Britannia in 1833/4. They left the Dardanelles together for Naples on 6 August 1833, refitted at Vourla Bay between 23 November and 4 December and arrived at Valetta together on 18 February 1834. It is therefore entirely plausible that they could both have been at Milos on 2 January 1834 (source is here for Malabar and here for Britannia from a site that collates newspaper reports of sailings). - Broichmore (talk) 14:07, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- Until 1864 the "Red Ensign" was one of the RN's three ensigns, and it was only in that year that it was re-allocated to merchant shipping.
- Both vessels appear to be merchantmen as they are flying the red ensign. Could they be East Indiamen?
- Correspondence in the Times in December 1933 indicates that the Malabar and Britannia were in the mediterranean at the same time. "The English have in the Mediterranean three-deckers, the Britannia, with Admiral Malcolm's flag, the Saint Vincent, and Caledonia, two seventy-fours, the Talavara and Malabar, the two cut down ships the Barham and Alfred, the Madagacar frigate, and several sloops and brigs."
