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J over-represented in western parts of South Asia[edit]

@LenguaMapa: Hi, the J percentage in western parts of South Asia are over represented in your map. Except Sindhis (Sindh region) of Southern Pakistan, who were found to possess 33.34%, no major regional group has shown 30+ percentage of J. Punjabis of Pakistan come close but fall below 30%. India Punjabis and Gujaratis are just above 20%. Even the numerically dominant Pashtuns of Afghanistan show below 10%. Kindly visit This link. Regards. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:22, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I will adapt the map to the percentage of the Wikipedia article you linked. Thank you!LenguaMapa (talk) 01:21, 16 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Gujarat need to be fixed. I'll try to help. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:07, 16 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@LenguaMapa: Hello, the 60%+ in Sindh and Baluchistan in your new map looks absurd. Where did you find those high numbers? 30+ in India (Gujarat, Punjab, Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh) and Pakistani Punjab is also incorrect as per South Asian Y-DNA that lists a total of J (J*, J1, J2, etc). I suggest you restore the South Asian part as in this map which is the most correct as per the above table unless you can provide other reference(s). - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:21, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I did change the colour shade and mistakenly included southern Pakistan into the 60%+. Uttar Pradesh, Punjab have ~33% and Sindh has 32%. Madhya Pradesh was only included because of imprecise work. It was not intended to include it, now fixed.LenguaMapa (talk) 13:52, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@LenguaMapa: Uttar Pradesh and Punjab have +30 J according to which research? can you clarify? According to Kivisild 2003 "Punjab, India" has only 21% J, and that 33+ in Uttar Pradesh is for the Kol tribe as far as I know. And Kols form a very small percentage of the total population. See this. Even "Punjab, Pakistan" showed only 27% as per Poznik et al. That's why I said [this map is best for South Asia. Kindly verify with sources and populations in South Asian Y-DNA article - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:20, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, I will look into that soon. If I find nothing reliable I will change it to your suggested version. Greetings.LenguaMapa (talk) 11:05, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@LenguaMapa: OK. Kindly ping me if you find a source that supports those figures. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:58, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is of extremely poor quality[edit]

Pick pretty much any European country at random and the numbers contradict what is depicted in this image. For example, Ireland has negligible amounts of J Y-DNA, yet this image claims >10%. Italy has ~20% J Y-DNA but this image would have you believe it's well over 40%. Same with Greece, they have about 20% J Y-DNA but this image would have you believe it's over 60%. There are well sourced tables on the English Wikipedia which contradict nearly every frequency on this image. en:Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_populations_of_North_Africa en:Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_populations_of_the_Near_East en:Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_populations_of_Europe en:Haplogroup_J_(Y-DNA)#Subclade_distribution Dumuh (talk) 11:33, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have tried to correct misleading parts. It should be more correct now. The map was really misleading.ABCymta (talk) 19:01, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]