File talk:Hejaz revenues cover-1921.jpg

PD review discussion

I submit this scan for review because its source is not permanent (it is from an online auction). Any objections? Sv1xv (talk) 21:37, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

That is the problem with eBay links: they cannot be cached (webcitation, archive.org, and Google cache cannot do so). Other than that, unlike established stores, what guarantees the claims on the piece as authentic? The item can be the verifiable source, but I fail to see the postmark here that it is "a 1921 cover posted with Hejaz Railway revenues of 1918 issue". Can someone who understands the language verify? Jappalang (talk) 22:30, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

You may also see the postmarks on the backside of the envelope [1] with date 4-5-21 (1921-05-04) in western digits. The auction page is at [2]. The base stamps (the only artwork on the item) were issued in 1918 and the stamps with the specific overprint on 1921-01-10 (Ottoman year 1337) according to Ottoman Turkish Empire Revenue Revenue Stamps of the Hejaz Railway by Steve Jaques, 2009.

Sv1xv (talk) 03:33, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Year of issue of stamps also confirmed in PULKO Osmanli imparatorlugu ve Turkiye Cumhuriyeti Posta Pullari Katalogu 2006, ISBN 975-93009-7-4. Sv1xv (talk) 15:44, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Upload the image of the back of the envelope as well (to be "proof" of the post mark) and link the images together. Put on the talk pages our discussions and indicate that the images came from eBay (with information on the auctioner, and the date it started). We cannot cache eBay links, and I believe this vouching of the existence of this link is what PD files is for. Jappalang (talk) 22:37, 2 May 2009 (UTC)