File talk:Kurdish language map revised.PNG

@Takabeg:Where are your sources?--Gomada (talk) 13:40, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

This is not my own work. You'd better ask to User:Xosere. I think probably he/she used Mehrdad Izady, as you know works of this Kurdish writer are not neutral (sometimes known with his pseudo-academic tone of writing). I think this version of User:Xosere is also unreliable. But, at least, better than File:Kurdish Language Map.PNG which includes non-Kurdish languages and serves Kurdish ethnocentric myths . Takabeg (talk) 23:17, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Licensing

This maps had no license on diq.wikipedia. Why was it transferred here without the permission of the author (diq:User:Xosere)? Is he (the author) agrees with the transfer?--Ghybu (talk) 18:03, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

diq:User:Xosere uploaded this derivative work in Zazaki Wikipedia. In this case, whether he/she agreed or not is not important. Takabeg (talk) 23:05, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

This maps was without lisans and without description in the diq.wikpedia; maybe it was a test.

You can't do this if this work is not to be shared. It happens to us all to do this kind of thing on the local project. And it is unpleasant that without the consent of the person that someone transfers the file to Commons. Could you ask his opinion? It is also a matter of politeness ...

Sometimes I do this also and I do not want that my maps are transferred on Commons without my permission...

For example some of these images are derivative works: Is I can transferred on commons without asking the user? In your opinion, what will be his reaction? (sorry for my english)--Ghybu (talk) 01:33, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

As you know, the Zazaki Wikipedia is developing project. So nobody had used license tags there until 4 November 2012, when I introduced license systems to Zazaki Wikipedia. However all contents (except copyrighted contents) have been under the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike Lisanse in Zazaki Wikipedia (you can also read Vikipedi içeriği, Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike Lisansı kapsamındadır. Ek bilgi için Telif hakları sayfasına bakınız at the bottom of the Main page of the Turkish wikipedia.) Takabeg (talk) 13:00, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

You have not responded to my objection above: I have shown that we can not do everything we want because we are in a community and there are rules of etiquette.

There are rules to follow when transferring files: lisans of the author, description of the author. So this map has not been correctly transferred to Commons: I was right. We need his approval. This is a community project the slightest thing is to ask the opinion of the author (because without lisans and without description). Perhaps he is against this transfer?

You can not ask others to respect the rules and not respect them when you are not satisfied. You go ask him? :)--Ghybu (talk) 18:19, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Its not your own work, you dont care if the author agreed to upload here. You think, its unreliable.(the map is a modified version of User:Siamax' file) Why do you upload then? What is your end-goal? Ah yes, you showed us again that you are againist Kurdish and Kurdishness. I got you many times. Just some examples 1, 2. In each project, you do same. Sometimes you are historian, sometimes linguist. In short, you know the best(!) Btw, you have nominated for deletion (the original version of the map) and read your reason there. What are you exactly doing? (: Maybe you think that you succeed something when i dont keep to discuss but i show your mistakes and i leave. Cheers ;)--Gomada (talk) 13:44, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

User:Siamax's File:Kurdish Language Map.PNG had been kept. If you suspect the decision of User:LtPowers, you can nominate the file again. Even if you try to make me a kind of the enemy of Kurdish people, I'm not enemy of any ethnic groups. I'm oppose to ethnocentric biases (not only Kurdish ethnocentrism, but also Turkish, Greek, Armenian ethnocentrism etc...). Moreover, I always respect minority rights. In cases like this map, rights of Zazaki, Gorani and their languages have to be protected from Kurdish ethnocentric assimilation policy/propaganda. Of course, rights of Assyrians has to be protected from Kurdish ethnocentric assimilation policy/propaganda. Takabeg (talk) 00:06, 1 March 2013 (UTC)