File talk:La domination masculine.jpg

 

Explanation (copied from deletion discussion page)

Hi. I’m the author of the original photo. I scanned it because it is not a digital one. I think that the photo could be used in many articles: feminism, sociology, Bourdieu, irony, etc. I can understand that SOME people do not like it, but some other do (some feminists as well). The photo shows a woman reading a book written by a famous man. The girl is free of accepting or not Bourdieu’s arguments about women rights and the use of woman’s body. It is not an irony against Bourdieu, it is an argument about women freedom. She is naked, it is true, but why is that a problem? If pornography stigmatizes women, this photo evocates -on the opposite- both the beauty and the intelligence of women. If the sculpture "The Thinker" by Rodin is a naked man philosophizing, why not a photo about a naked woman reading? I also asked a very good copyright lawyer and he told me the photo is perfectly ok from the legal point of view. At the same time, I do not have the time to start a crusade in defense of my photo, so I will respect your decision. Maurice Marcellin 00:06, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Hear, hear! The pigs should not impose their censorship - this image could be adhibited most utilely in real WMF situations. Keep it, I say! And good job, Maurice, for uploading it!*
*(Terms and conditions apply) 19:00, 6 March 2008 (UTC).

I know I'm a little late to the party, but the Thinker contains nudity; I would not, however, call it pornography. It's done much more tastefully (in my opinion, of course). If I were a father, I wouldn't have any problem showing my hypothetical children the Thinker (at 10 years old, roughly), but I would not show them (or at least a boy) this picture. Drawings and sculptures of nudity are usually never as bad as photos. I'd suggest covering the nudity in the picture; the point will still get across, and the wikis won't become a porn collection. That, or have restrictions on who can view pictures (you have to be logged in, above 18, etc.) Of course kids will try to get around this, but at least those that weren't looking for it won't stumble upon it by accident. MichaelExe (talk) 20:08, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Or, take a picture of a less physically attractive woman with the book. If we're encouraging women's rights, should we not be fair to ALL women? MichaelExe (talk) 20:11, 4 October 2009 (UTC)