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Turkish language?[edit]

Did you read file title? Turkish language is a part of Oghuz languages and it have been recognized as a minority in these (Greece, Romania, Kosovo, Iraq..) countries. Yes, There are millions of Kurdish in Southern and Eastern Turkey but these people speaks Turkish and Kurdish languges as mother tongue. Well, we must added Khorasani Turkic language to Iran?? Maurice Flesier (talk) 15:47, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That made no absolutely sense. As I said, if you're gonna add the Turkic speakers in other countries, then the non-Turkic speakers should be in Turkey as well. Try to think neutral. EDIT: Just found out that you're banned in Wikipedia, if you continue this you will be banned in Wikipedia commons as well. --HistoryofIran (talk) 17:17, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The file is related with Oghuz Languages not non-Turkic speakers and minority languages in Turkey! As I said file history next revert action you will reported Administrators' noticeboard. I'm banned English wikipedia not commons! This threat here is invalid. Maurice Flesier (talk) 18:49, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Maurice Flesier: You're gonna report for me your non-neutral POV reverts? Go ahead, you're only shooting yourself in the foot. You're confusing yourself now - if it is meant to show all the native Oghuz speakers, why did you remove the Kurds then? last time I looked they spoke Kurdish, an Iranian language as their native language, not Oghuz Turkic. If you don't answer me in a day or two, then I will revert it back. If you revert me after that, I will report you and who knows, you might be banned here as well. --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:12, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not an expert, but surely in SE-Turkey, Turkish is spoken? Maybe not by everyone and not always as a first language, but that's beside the point. Richard 15:53, 10 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Richard: Aight, but since in what universe did the Turks form a majority as far as Lorestan? And I'm pretty sure the Caspian coast of Iran is populated by northern Iranians (Gilaks, Talysh, Mazandarians). Hell, the current map is stating the Turks form a majority in Iran's capital Tehran! It also states that the Turks are a majority in most of the Fars Province, it's laughable, really. It also states that the Turks make up a majority in Iraqi Kurdistan, once again completely ignoring the presence of the Kurds. --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:04, 10 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Where does it say that this map only shows majorities? Take a look at this map. You might notice that a part of France is colored blue, since there are people in that region that use Dutch as their native language. On this map, the same region is indicated as French – with the remark that another major language is spoken. One does not exclude the other. In the region you don't want to include, there are native speakers of Turkish and hence, the region should be included. Richard 08:45, 11 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Richard: Sorry, but that is some strange logic, the Turks don't even make up 10 procent in most of the areas colored green, so why the heck should it be colored green? They are either a small minority or don't live there at all in provinces such as Lorestan. Provinces such as Gilan, Mazandaran, Lorestan etc should not be colored green, simply because of the fact that it is populated by other ethnic groups. 'Hey, let's make make the whole southern coast of Iran green as well just because 34 Turkic speakers live in Bandar Abbas' that is what you're technically saying that the moment. Why don't we just make the whole map of Iran green? This is what the ethnic map of Iran more or less look like [1], not that silly Pan-Turkic map uploaded by a banned user which you suprisingly support. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:21, 11 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Even if they would make up only five percent of the population, they should still be counted. The map shows what languages are spoken where, not by how many people. Should the map reflect that it is a minority language in some regions, that would be fine. As it is, the map only shows two possibilities: it is spoken or not. Therefore, the region should be colored. In a map showing Iranian languages, the region should be colored as well. As I said before, they are not mutually exclusive. Richard 15:06, 11 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Richard: In that case we would have to lighten the color of the part where they are a minority, and add a box that has information how much the Turkic speaking people make up in the provinces. At the moment, the map is saying that the Turkic speaking people are a majority in various areas where they are not even close to. We would also have to completely remove the color from some of the provinces, such as Gilan, Lorestan, Mazandaran etc where they do not live at all. --HistoryofIran (talk) 16:09, 11 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Color gradations could be a good option. That the map says that the current colors signify a majority is your interpretation. Richard 17:52, 11 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
PS: by the way, given the time and day of week, I probably will not be responding the next few days. If applicable, have a good weekend! Richard 17:53, 11 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Richard: Not really, that is how the majority of people think - in the 3 years I have been here, it's the first time I have seen someone with your interpretation. By using your interpretation, we would have to color most of Iran green. I seriously can't be bothered to waste my time making such a silly detailed map, it's so frustrating that I always have to clean up mess like this. Congratulations, a user banned in Wikipedia for "nationalistic warlike editing" has won. It is ridiculous. Once again the admins of Wikimedia have shown how great they are. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:31, 11 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Inaccuracy[edit]

Turkic language in Western Balkans is wrong. Apart from Mamuša (in Kosovo), Plasnica Municipality and Centar Župa Municipality (in Macedonia) there exists no Turkic communities in the Western Balkans.--Zoupan (talk) 15:30, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fix[edit]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Oghuzlanguages6.png

I fixed the map, there were big mistakes. Please add these version. Beshogur (talk) 18:09, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Completely inaccurate map[edit]

This map should get changed to real areas of spoken turkic languages or must be deleted. This map is vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 일성강 (talk • contribs) 18:10, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]