File talk:Attributed Coat of Arms of Conrad IV, King of Germany (according to Matthew Paris).svg

Henry VII - Conrad(in)

In my view this may not be the coat of arms of Conrad(-in; his son), ref. to "Heraldry from the 1250-1259 Historia Anglorum by Matthew Paris by Gunnvǫr silfrahárr (Christie L. Ward), ©2014.

The British Library's manuscript Royal MS 14 C VII is the only complete copy of the Historia Anglorum, a history of England covering the years 1070-1253, probably composed and written by Matthew Paris in the period between 1250-1255, and also includes part III of the Chronica Maiora by Matthew Paris, covering the years 1254-1259. The manuscript includes numerous shields with coats of arms upright or inverted, indicating births, coronations, or deaths of kings, nobles, clerics, and knights."

In this manuscript, Conrads shield with coat of arms, at death, is a double headed eagle and in chief a red point within a part of, what it looks like, the moon (below link).

Henry VII's halfbroer Conrad was crowned in his place and therefor the cross, in my view, is assumed to be the shield, with coat of arms, of or for Henry VII who is supporting Conrad(in); the shield hanging above Henry's head while riding a horse following Conrad(in).

On the original Codex Manesse the picture shows: the eagle faded out and 'overwritten' with a cross may resamble the time of an enforced abdication of Henry VII by his father Frederik II.

The Kingdom of Aragón (now region northern Spain) has a simular cross, pointed at the bottom. Henry VII's mother was the daughter of the King of Aragón.

Frederik II, (grand)father of Henry VII and Conrad(in), left us a book about the art of hunting with birds "De arte venandi cum avibus" (Source: Fik Meijer's book 'de vele gezichten van Sicilië), appreciated by connaisseurs for its scientific content, therefor very close to the original user of the coat of arms.

CONRAD IV, also named II, at his death, is in my view this picture yet up side down: http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/Stars/Historia_Angelorum/164v%20Conrad%20son%20of%20Frederick%20II%20death.png

Sindorff (talk) 08:24, 5 March 2023 (UTC)