File talk:Coat of Arms of Harry, Duke of Sussex.svg

Duda sobre escudo de Armas / Label (heraldry)

El escudo de armas del Duque de Sussex, cambia automaticamente con un lambel de 3 puntas por ser hijo de un soberano o es algo que el monarca tiene que conceder a su propio hijo? Jangel figueroa (talk) 01:39, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Well, same question from someone from the german wikipedia... *SGR* (talk) 03:53, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

I answered a similar question on my talk page my answer is this: Based on historic practice, I doubt his arms will change. In 1901 when King Edward VII inherited the throne, his three daughters, Louise, Victoria and Maud's arms all had labels of five points. Given to them by Queen Victoria as children of the heir apparent. Only the coronets ranked-up once their father became king, but none of their arms (the most important part) were changed again. Edward's two sons on the other hand were given three point labels from the very beginning. Unless otherwise changed Prince Harry's arms remain the same, however his coronet changes as he becomes the son of the monarch.--Sodacan (talk) 04:00, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Crown

Sodacan, you are right, a son of a monarch has an other crown compared to a grandchild. But is there any official source for a CoA with the change of the crown without a change to the label? *SGR* (talk) 04:05, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

It is his birthright, and this does not need permission or confirmation. External ornaments such as coronets and orders are added automatically once they are given to arms' owner. It is their right to show them. This is not the case with the shield, which is given by a monarch, and is a gift of the monarch alone. They never change unless the monarch says so. The monarch is absolute in all heraldic matters, and it will be up to him if he will change Harry's. --Sodacan (talk) 04:11, 17 September 2022 (UTC)