File talk:Empire d'Autriche 1914 Bucovine.png

Modifications of April 25, 2023

Reason of the current modification: Original map includes several anachronistic borders, following later borders and administrative subsivisions of the interwar period. Modified according to the maps until 1918 as [1], [2], [3], [4] and others available as [5]. Distinguished the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy's border (black) from other borders and administrative subsivisions; placed in the Monarchy the Cattaro-Kotor area (since 1815) and Bosnia (since 1908); shown the Österreichisches Küstenland without its internal subdivisions and the Österreichisches Schlesien without the Moravian enclaves. Claude Zygiel (talk) 18:09, April 25, 2023 (UTC)

Modifications of 27 May 2023

I have updated the map again. I based my new version on the original rather than @Claude Zygiel's version as it introduced several issues of its own, but have reincorporated some of the changes (black outer border, blue Bosnia and Herzegovina, removed internal Littoral borders). My corrections include:

• Bukovina: the original version showed the 1930s Romanian boundaries; Claude Zygiel's version was much better but still not accurate.
• Various anachronistic/modern boundaries:
  • Tyrol–Italy: the previous versions showed the modern province boundaries (Trentino-Alto Adige/Südtirol).
  • Carinthia–Italy: the original version showed the modern boundaries while Claude Zygiel's version erroneously added extra territory to the Littoral/Gorizia.
  • Lower Austria–Bohemia/Moravia
  • Styria–Carniola
  • Galicia and Lodomeria: the previous versions used modern Polish Voivodeship and Ukrainian Oblast boundaries among other inaccuracies.
  • Bosnia and Herzegovina: did not include Sutorina and had incorrect borders with Croatia-Slavonia.
  • Balkan states: the previous versions largely showed the modern borders, which did not match those of 1914 (Southern Dobruja was Romanian, Montenegro was larger etc).
• Romania–Hungary/Transylvania border: the original version showed modern Romanian boundaries; Claude Zygiel's version was better but still not accurate.
• Kotor/Cattaro was missing in the original version and Claude Zygiel's version was inaccurate.
• Hungarian county boundaries: almost all of them had some inaccuracy so I am not sure what the original source was. Claude Zygiel's version also offset them for some reason.
• Teschen/Cieszyn/Těšín borders (Silesia)

I also added several large lakes, corrected the extent of Lake Neusiedl (which was larger in the early 20c.), made coastlines blue, made San Marino grey and improved the Russo-German (Silesian) border.

I have left the western part of Austrian Silesia as it was in the original version (except for a single additional enclave – Nové Vrbno/Neu Würben/Goldseifen) as that is correct for 1914. The Moravian salient and enclaves added in Claude Zygiel's version were eliminated at least by the mid-19th century; only Nové Vrbno/Neu Würben/Goldseifen and Butovice/Bot(h)enwald persisted until 1914. (See, for example, Oesterreichisch Schlesien1880.png.)

The Austro-Hungarian borders used (internal and external) are mostly derived directly from the Austrian/Austro-Hungarian military surveys, as well as from individual county maps for Hungary/Croatia-Slavonia (available here or on Commons in Category:Old maps of counties in the Kingdom of Hungary and Category:Maps of counties of Croatia-Slavonia) and cross-referenced with maps covering all of Hungary.

Alphathon /ˈæɫfə.θɒn/ ^(talk) 12:46, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

THANKS @Alphathon: ! That's what I call a collegial, intelligent and wikilove collaboration. It's much better for readers and users, than the brutal reverts of some people who think they know everything better than everyone else. --Claude Zygiel (talk) 16:34, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

You're welcome . Incidentally I have now also started updating the other maps in this series, starting with Galicia and Lodomeria. Alphathon /ˈæɫfə.θɒn/ ^(talk) 17:05, 4 June 2023 (UTC)